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Dhammika Perera - Speech at the Chartered Accountants Conference on 21st October 2016

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Nuwan Prasad


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vic19

vic19
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Many Thanks Nuwan Prasad for putting this tread on this forum.


what a GREAT Speech for every one of us.


this speech of Dammika Perera has really change my view I had about him.


well done DP.


i have learned some thing for sure from his speech.


thanks very much

Nuwan Prasad


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I'm glad you liked the video.

samaritan


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I really enjoyed the thought provoking  presentation by business tycoon DP in a very simple form without frills and jargon. The simplicity was awesome!

Thanks Nuwan.

Chinwi

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Thanks for the link.

මම දැනගෙන හිටියෙ නෑ ඔහුත් වසර 4-5 ක් කොටස් වෙළෙඳපල ගැන අද්‍යයනය කළා කියල​. මෙතෙක් හිතාගෙන හිටියෙ බැංකු ණයකින් NDB 50/- ට අරන් 200/- ට දීල එකපාරට පොහොසත් උනා කියල​.

(NDB IPO 50/- post IPO 200/-)
නමුත් මේ කතාව අනුව ඔහු කාලයක් තිස්සේ මුදල් සුලු ප්‍රමාණයක් යොදාගෙන අද්‍යයනය කරල​. ඒක තමයි නියමිත වෙලාවෙ අර වගේ බය නැති ආයෝජනයක් කරන්න කන්ෆිඩන්ස් එක ලැබිල තියෙන්නෙ.
මේක අලුතෙන් එන අයට හොඳම පාඩමක්. ඒ අත්දැකීම් පසුව එන අවස්ථා හඳුනා ගන්න උදවු වෙනව​. බය නැතුව තීරන ගන්න කන්ෆිඩන්ස් එනව​. හරියට දන්නෙ නැතුව දරන්න බැරි මුදලක් ආයෝජනය කරල බඩේ බිත්තර තම්බ තම්බ ගැස්ට්‍රයිටිස් හදාගෙන නිදි නැතුව ජීවිතේ ගෙවනව නම් කොච්චර ලැබුනත් වැඩක් නෑ.

Nuwan Prasad


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Chinwi wrote:Thanks for the link.

මම දැනගෙන හිටියෙ නෑ ඔහුත් වසර 4-5 ක් කොටස් වෙළෙඳපල ගැන අද්‍යයනය කළා කියල​.  මෙතෙක් හිතාගෙන හිටියෙ බැංකු ණයකින් NDB 50/- ට අරන් 200/- ට දීල එකපාරට පොහොසත් උනා කියල​.

(NDB IPO 50/- post IPO 200/-)
නමුත් මේ කතාව අනුව ඔහු කාලයක් තිස්සේ මුදල් සුලු ප්‍රමාණයක් යොදාගෙන අද්‍යයනය කරල​. ඒක තමයි නියමිත වෙලාවෙ අර වගේ බය නැති ආයෝජනයක් කරන්න කන්ෆිඩන්ස් එක ලැබිල තියෙන්නෙ.
මේක අලුතෙන් එන අයට හොඳම පාඩමක්.  ඒ අත්දැකීම් පසුව එන අවස්ථා හඳුනා ගන්න උදවු වෙනව​. බය නැතුව තීරන ගන්න කන්ෆිඩන්ස් එනව​.  හරියට දන්නෙ නැතුව දරන්න බැරි මුදලක්  ආයෝජනය කරල බඩේ බිත්තර තම්බ තම්බ ගැස්ට්‍රයිටිස් හදාගෙන නිදි නැතුව ජීවිතේ ගෙවනව නම් කොච්චර ලැබුනත් වැඩක් නෑ.  

හොඳ පොයින්ට් එකක් Chinwi

sureshot

sureshot
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
DP you are not paying good dividend for VONE ... Very Happy

Diago Lanka


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic
Thank you Nuwan.

9Dhammika Perera - Speech at the Chartered Accountants Conference on 21st October 2016 Empty GOOD ONE, BUT IN THE END on Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:17 am

ruwan326

ruwan326
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Very good speech and heard 2weeks ago.....
But in the end he said about auspicious time........ 70% lost if you start in auspicious time.........
So if we check auspicious time every day do you believe we can success 100%.......

I still remember what happen to former President........ Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
It is shame that still people stuck to myth Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad 



මිනිස්සු පුද පූජා, චාරිත්‍ර වලට ඇබ්බැහි වෙලා. නැකත් බලන් නැතිව සමහර එවුන් එලියට බහින් නෑ. හූනෙකුට බල්ලෙකුට අඬන්න, කම්පට ගහන්න නිදහසක් නැති සමාජයක්. සාස්තර කාරයෝ මන්තර කාරයෝ ගුරුකම් කාරයෝ ඉහලින්ම වැජඹෙනවා. එවුන් තමයි සමාජයට නායකත්ව දෙන්නේ. කිසිම ධර්මයක් ශාස්ත්‍රයක් නොදන්නා ගුරුකම්කාරයන්ගෙන් උපදෙස් අරගෙන මේ සමාජය කොතෙන්ටද නුඹලා දක්කන්නේ?
ඔවුන් දන්න, ඔවුන්ට පේන, ඔවුන් දකින අනාගතයක් නැහැ. ඔවුන්ගේ පැවැත්මට අවශ්‍ය කරන විධියට උන් අනාවැකි කියනවා. අපේ මෝඩකම ඉහවහා ගිහිල්ලා නිසා අපි ඒවාට සවන් යොමු කරනවා.


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TARGET


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@ruwan326 wrote:Very good speech and heard 2weeks ago.....
But in the end he said about auspicious time........ 70% lost if you start in auspicious time.........
So if we check auspicious time every day do you believe we can success 100%.......

I still remember what happen to former President........ Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
It is shame that still people stuck to myth Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad 



මිනිස්සු පුද පූජා, චාරිත්‍ර වලට ඇබ්බැහි වෙලා. නැකත් බලන් නැතිව සමහර එවුන් එලියට බහින් නෑ. හූනෙකුට බල්ලෙකුට අඬන්න, කම්පට ගහන්න නිදහසක් නැති සමාජයක්. සාස්තර කාරයෝ මන්තර කාරයෝ ගුරුකම් කාරයෝ ඉහලින්ම වැජඹෙනවා. එවුන් තමයි සමාජයට නායකත්ව දෙන්නේ. කිසිම ධර්මයක් ශාස්ත්‍රයක් නොදන්නා ගුරුකම්කාරයන්ගෙන් උපදෙස් අරගෙන මේ සමාජය කොතෙන්ටද නුඹලා දක්කන්නේ?
ඔවුන් දන්න, ඔවුන්ට පේන, ඔවුන් දකින අනාගතයක් නැහැ. ඔවුන්ගේ පැවැත්මට අවශ්‍ය කරන විධියට උන් අනාවැකි කියනවා. අපේ මෝඩකම ඉහවහා ගිහිල්ලා නිසා අපි ඒවාට සවන් යොමු කරනවා.


Dhammika Perera - Speech at the Chartered Accountants Conference on 21st October 2016 Df435_10
Totally agree with you.

Brinthan

Brinthan
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
DP was a rich person before entering this stock market...This stock market made DP more richest person...Its not miracle and not a motivation factor for beginers...If DP coming from Middle class or Poor family...Then its a motivation factor...Rich people can easily double their money....In our country and our system make rich person to more richest person and poor person become more poor....

But i like ur working style and attitudes...Only good thing i get from this video..

Chinwi

Chinwi
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
About auspicious time....


How can you say all of those beliefs are 100% fake or baseless ideas ?

Before all, I must say I do not follow any kind of fortune telling or auspicious time systems.

I do not even think about any Nekath , Rahu kala, or kendare in my day to day life .  Im not a believer of any   rituals. I got this influence from my parents , both from down south , who were born where you get all sort of such beliefs but never practices such rituals or Rahu kalam  in our home.  

Somehow,  I have studied how to make , read horoscopes and I can tell main features of persons written in 'Kendare', also know Dasha and analyze Uchcha neecha effects of planets etc.


Rahu kala is not other than an arranged sequence of good or bad times based on day of the week.  

Dhammika Perera - Speech at the Chartered Accountants Conference on 21st October 2016 Rahuklm

Sometimes I use these charts to argue Rahu kala is a baseless practice. Because Sunday or Monday is just an adoption. (Not based on any Planetary movements) .

Still we cannot say there is no effect whatsoever without studying and analyzing actual outcome. We cannot challenge what Mr. KDDP established for himself after doing a practical test. We never did such study.

Rashi Chakra - Sodiac

Kendra - horoscope- is based on imaginary zodiac signs linking various stars visible in the night sky .

There are many non-zodiac Constellations such as Orion , Southern Cross, Pleiades (හත්දින්නත් තරු)  etc.
Zodiac is comprised of 12 constellations located in the path of the Sun around the year, visible from Earth.
The constellation rising from East Horizon at the time you come to this world (birth)  is your Lagna.

Formation of starts to display a  Lagna   is also not real.  
As an example, lets see Dhanu Lagna. ( Sagittarius)  
Dhammika Perera - Speech at the Chartered Accountants Conference on 21st October 2016 Sagittarius3

In the next image,
Main starts of Dhanu Rashi as we see it are at left side . Connecting those bright stars they drew the imaginary archer figure.

If you consider the real positioning of those stars and drew a longitudinal view we get the figure at right side.
The distance (number of light years) from Earth is given in red numerals in the left figure.
Dhammika Perera - Speech at the Chartered Accountants Conference on 21st October 2016 Saggit10
Click to enlarge.

Having done all these studies, still I cannot say astrology is 100% fake.  There could be a different dimensional truth.  

I know 3 people who  predicted their death and they died exactly at the predicted date. They mastered the subject from family background but not were popular 'Sasthara kaarayas'  or use the knowledge to  earn money.
I have studied horoscopes of some people to see if there are any clues and some people with extra-ordinary features, such as  easy learner / always fighting  / seductive or highly erotic / very foolish   etc .  display those features in their horoscopes too.

Palm Reading

Few years ago I heard about a very young girl, working as a drafts person in a far   away Province who has learnt palm reading by her own. (as she disclosed)
Many people told me  ' she was amazing' but I never took it seriously.
One day , I made an friendly inspection tour to her office and for curiosity I asked her to tell about me. We never met before and that was the first time I went to that office.  

She took me to the lunch room and asked me to show my both hands and to stay without any movement .  She sat straight and observed my palms for few minutes without any talk or motion .
Then suddenly started talking, pointing a pencil to various places of my two palms and described about my family, marriage age,  number of kids,  hardship incidences etc. very correctly and very fast manner. She predicted 3 things 'to be happen' in next few years and amazingly I experienced all , 2 good and one very bad at the exact times she told.
Then suddenly stopped talking and said thats all.

 I couldn't believe  she learnt the subject by reading books and read my palm matching what she learnt.  Her speed of talking was very fast and it was like reading something written in a paper at high speed.

I have done some experiments in some other related areas too ,  cannot tell what is correct or not.
 
Manthra

I  have seen an infant , crying very badly  in every afternoon for hours as a daily routine . No medicine or ritual could heal her. This went for months and parents were struggling taking her to doctors, temples and kovils  .
One day a Buddhist monk came to see her father and saw the pathetic situation. He asked a noola (sewing string)  , made  a thick string ,  chanted some words and put it around that cry baby's neck . Amazingly she stopped crying instantly. The most shocking thing was  she never cried like that thereafter  . !
That was many decades ago and that monk was not a known 'manthara hamuduruvo'. I do not know what he chanted,  Pirith or Manthra.

Hence , I think we cannot come to conclusion about these things.

I think we meet only the fake people these days.
Now a days over 90% who do these Manthara, Hak gedi, feng shui, Kendara , Thovil are thieves.  A person known as 'Hakgediya' living in Mirihana area is selling fake material at very high  rates. A person who buy feng shui related stuff from BKK at very cheap prices sells them here with huge margin. Almost all those who come to TV and Radio are fake people. 'Lagna Palapala' published in newspapers are written by fake people.

13Dhammika Perera - Speech at the Chartered Accountants Conference on 21st October 2016 Empty BUDDHIST, NON BUDDHIST, UNIVERSAL TRUTH on Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:54 am

ruwan326

ruwan326
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Chinwi wrote:About auspicious time....


How can you say all of those beliefs are 100% fake or baseless ideas ?

Before all, I must say I do not follow any kind of fortune telling or auspicious time systems.

I do not even think about any Nekath , Rahu kala, or kendare in my day to day life .  Im not a believer of any   rituals. I got this influence from my parents , both from down south , who were born where you get all sort of such beliefs but never practices such rituals or Rahu kalam  in our home.  

Somehow,  I have studied how to make , read horoscopes and I can tell main features of persons written in 'Kendare', also know Dasha and analyze Uchcha neecha effects of planets etc.


Rahu kala is not other than an arranged sequence of good or bad times based on day of the week.  

Dhammika Perera - Speech at the Chartered Accountants Conference on 21st October 2016 Rahuklm

Sometimes I use these charts to argue Rahu kala is a baseless practice. Because Sunday or Monday is just an adoption. (Not based on any Planetary movements) .

Still we cannot say there is no effect whatsoever without studying and analyzing actual outcome. We cannot challenge what Mr. KDDP established for himself after doing a practical test. We never did such study.

Rashi Chakra - Sodiac

Kendra - horoscope- is based on imaginary zodiac signs linking various stars visible in the night sky .

There are many non-zodiac Constellations such as Orion , Southern Cross, Pleiades (හත්දින්නත් තරු)  etc.
Zodiac is comprised of 12 constellations located in the path of the Sun around the year, visible from Earth.
The constellation rising from East Horizon at the time you come to this world (birth)  is your Lagna.

Formation of starts to display a  Lagna   is also not real.  
As an example, lets see Dhanu Lagna. ( Sagittarius)  
Dhammika Perera - Speech at the Chartered Accountants Conference on 21st October 2016 Sagittarius3

In the next image,
Main starts of Dhanu Rashi as we see it are at left side . Connecting those bright stars they drew the imaginary archer figure.

If you consider the real positioning of those stars and drew a longitudinal view we get the figure at right side.
The distance (number of light years) from Earth is given in red numerals in the left figure.
Dhammika Perera - Speech at the Chartered Accountants Conference on 21st October 2016 Saggit10
Click to enlarge.

Having done all these studies, still I cannot say astrology is 100% fake.  There could be a different dimensional truth.  

I know 3 people who  predicted their death and they died exactly at the predicted date. They mastered the subject from family background but not were popular 'Sasthara kaarayas'  or use the knowledge to  earn money.
I have studied horoscopes of some people to see if there are any clues and some people with extra-ordinary features, such as  easy learner / always fighting  / seductive or highly erotic / very foolish   etc .  display those features in their horoscopes too.

Palm Reading

Few years ago I heard about a very young girl, working as a drafts person in a far   away Province who has learnt palm reading by her own. (as she disclosed)
Many people told me  ' she was amazing' but I never took it seriously.
One day , I made an friendly inspection tour to her office and for curiosity I asked her to tell about me. We never met before and that was the first time I went to that office.  

She took me to the lunch room and asked me to show my both hands and to stay without any movement .  She sat straight and observed my palms for few minutes without any talk or motion .
Then suddenly started talking, pointing a pencil to various places of my two palms and described about my family, marriage age,  number of kids,  hardship incidences etc. very correctly and very fast manner. She predicted 3 things 'to be happen' in next few years and amazingly I experienced all , 2 good and one very bad at the exact times she told.
Then suddenly stopped talking and said thats all.

 I couldn't believe  she learnt the subject by reading books and read my palm matching what she learnt.  Her speed of talking was very fast and it was like reading something written in a paper at high speed.

I have done some experiments in some other related areas too ,  cannot tell what is correct or not.
 
Manthra

I  have seen an infant , crying very badly  in every afternoon for hours as a daily routine . No medicine or ritual could heal her. This went for months and parents were struggling taking her to doctors, temples and kovils  .
One day a Buddhist monk came to see her father and saw the pathetic situation. He asked a noola (sewing string)  , made  a thick string ,  chanted some words and put it around that cry baby's neck . Amazingly she stopped crying instantly. The most shocking thing was  she never cried like that thereafter  . !
That was many decades ago and that monk was not a known 'manthara hamuduruvo'. I do not know what he chanted,  Pirith or Manthra.

Hence , I think we cannot come to conclusion about these things.

I think we meet only the fake people these days.
Now a days over 90% who do these Manthara, Hak gedi, feng shui, Kendara , Thovil are thieves.  A person known as 'Hakgediya' living in Mirihana area is selling fake material at very high  rates. A person who buy feng shui related stuff from BKK at very cheap prices sells them here with huge margin. Almost all those who come to TV and Radio are fake people. 'Lagna Palapala' published in newspapers are written by fake people.

If you still believes These sinful useless stuff please watch this video........... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

If you don't have time start from 36th minute to 42th minute, only 07minutes Very Happy

Do not look in to this theory as a religion. Buddha was,is,will be the greatest scientist ever lived on this planet......

This theory and video will change your life and  will help you billion life times in the future.......... Better than any business.... any investment.....any profit............ ever....lol! lol! lol!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FyHEtVrvGw&list=RDsiLpSHl5z5c&index=20

Chinwi

Chinwi
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
OMG, I have no hope to born again in any place.

I have already understood there is no 'me' .

Somehow I cannot link everything to Abhidhamma. Patichcha Samuppada is a way to understand what is happening in your mind and outer world.


This is what I am thinking at the moment, about 'me' or 'I' :

බොහෝ දෙනා වරදවා සිතන්නේ 'මම' කියා සිතන්නේ, වැඩ කරන්නේ මේ සිරුර තුල සිටින කෙනෙක් හෙවත් විඥාණය බවයි. ජන සමාජ යේ මෙන්ම සමහර බණ ට පවා මේ වැරැද්ද අපේ ඔලුවලට දානව​.
උදා : "මොන ධනය රැස් කලත් කවදා හො එයාට ඕව අත්‍ ඇරල දාල යන්න වෙනව​" , "ඔය මොන බියුටි කල්චර් කලත් මේ සරීරෙ දාල යන්න වෙනව" ආදී වශයෙන්.

නමුත් අප එදිනෙදා දකින "මම​" යනු භෞතික සිරුරත්, සිත හෝ විඥාණයත් එක්ව සැදී ඇති දෙයක්. 'මම' ලෙස සිතන්නේ මේ දෙකම එක්ව සැදි පුද්ගලයා. එසේ නැතුව සරීරය තුල ඉන්න මම කෙනෙක් නොවේ.
ඒ කියන්නේ 'මම​' කියා සිතන කෙනෙක් සිරුර තුල නෑ. සිරුර හා විඥාන ශක්තිය නිසා නිර්මාණය වූ හිතලු ඒකකයක් තමයි මේ මම. (composite)
මේදෙක වෙන් වු විගස මේ ​ 'මම​' නැති වෙන බව ඔබට තෙරුම් යනු ඇති. ඒ නිසා තමයි බුදු දහමේ 'මම​' මැරිල ගිහින් නැවත උපදින්නේ නෑ කියා උගන් වන්නේ.

නමුත් අපි හිතන්නේ මමෙක් ඉන්නව කියල​. මෙහෙම හිතෙන එකට තමයි අවිද්‍යාව කියන්නෙත්. අවිද්‍යාව දුරු කලාම නිවන් මග හෙලි වෙනව​. අවිද්‍යාව දුරු වන්නේ අනිත්‍යතාව ඔස්සේ මමෙක් නැති බව දැක බැඳීම් හෝ උපාදාන ඇතිවීමට ඇති සාධක​ නැති උනාම​.


එසේ නම් නැවත උපදින්නේ කවුද ?
එයට පිලිතුර නම් අර වෙන්වන විඥානය හෙවත් යම් කිසි ශක්තියක් තවත් තැනක ඒ මොහොතේම ප්‍රතිසන්ධිය ලබන බවයි. එනම් ඒ ශක්තිය වෙනත් තැනක ඇති වන බවයි. නමුත් ඒ 'මම​' නොවේ. මම කළ කී දේ අනුව නරක හා හොඳ ශක්තීන් සේව් කරගත් ශක්තියක් . ඒ භව ශක්‍තිය ගොඩ නැගෙන්නේ බැඳීම උපාදාන වීම නිසා . (උපාදන පච්චයා භව​.)

එය හරියට පරිගණක සොෆ්ට්වෙයා එකක් ඩිලීට් වී වෙන පරිගනකයක ඉන්ස්ටෝල් වෙනව වගේ. අර සොෆ්ට්වෙයා එක්ක ඩේටා යන්න පුලුවන් වගේ පවු පින් එක්ක ප්‍රතිසන්ධි වෙනව​. නමුත් එය පරිගණකය තුල වැඩකරන විට අප hardware + software දකින්නේ එකම එකකයක් ලෙස . මෙය තමයි 'මම​'

ඒ නිසා තමයි නියම බුදු දහමේ පුනුරුප්පත්තියක් නැත කියන්නේ.
​ "අප මැරුන පසු කොහේවත් යන්නේ නැත​. නොයන්නේත් නැත" කියන්නේ.
මිහිඳු හිමි බුදු දහම නිල වශයෙන් ගෙනා දිනයේදී දෙවන පෑ තිස්ස රජතුමාගෙන් ඇසූ බුද්ධි පැනයන් ද මේ කාරණයට සම්බන්ධයි.

ruwan326

ruwan326
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Chinwi wrote:OMG, I have no hope to born again in any place.

I have already understood there is no 'me' .

Somehow I cannot link everything to Abhidhamma. Patichcha Samuppada is a way to understand what is happening in your mind and outer world.


This is what I am thinking at the moment, about 'me' or 'I' :

බොහෝ දෙනා වරදවා සිතන්නේ 'මම' කියා සිතන්නේ, වැඩ කරන්නේ මේ සිරුර තුල සිටින කෙනෙක් හෙවත් විඥාණය බවයි. ජන සමාජ යේ මෙන්ම සමහර බණ ට පවා මේ වැරැද්ද අපේ ඔලුවලට දානව​.
උදා : "මොන ධනය  රැස් කලත් කවදා හො එයාට ඕව අත්‍ ඇරල දාල යන්න වෙනව​" , "ඔය මොන බියුටි කල්චර් කලත් මේ සරීරෙ දාල යන්න වෙනව"  ආදී වශයෙන්.

නමුත් අප එදිනෙදා දකින "මම​" යනු  භෞතික සිරුරත්, සිත හෝ විඥාණයත් එක්ව සැදී ඇති දෙයක්. 'මම' ලෙස සිතන්නේ මේ දෙකම එක්ව  සැදි පුද්ගලයා. එසේ නැතුව සරීරය තුල  ඉන්න  මම  කෙනෙක්   නොවේ.  
 ඒ කියන්නේ 'මම​' කියා සිතන කෙනෙක් සිරුර තුල නෑ. සිරුර හා විඥාන ශක්තිය නිසා නිර්මාණය වූ  හිතලු ඒකකයක් තමයි මේ මම. (composite)  
 මේදෙක වෙන් වු විගස මේ  ​ 'මම​' නැති වෙන බව ඔබට තෙරුම් යනු ඇති.  ඒ නිසා තමයි බුදු දහමේ 'මම​' මැරිල ගිහින් නැවත උපදින්නේ නෑ කියා උගන් වන්නේ.

නමුත් අපි හිතන්නේ මමෙක් ඉන්නව කියල​. මෙහෙම හිතෙන එකට තමයි අවිද්‍යාව කියන්නෙත්.  අවිද්‍යාව දුරු කලාම නිවන් මග හෙලි වෙනව​. අවිද්‍යාව දුරු වන්නේ  අනිත්‍යතාව ඔස්සේ මමෙක් නැති බව දැක  බැඳීම්   හෝ උපාදාන ඇතිවීමට ඇති සාධක​ නැති උනාම​.

 
එසේ නම් නැවත උපදින්නේ කවුද  ?
එයට පිලිතුර නම් අර වෙන්වන විඥානය හෙවත් යම් කිසි ශක්තියක් තවත් තැනක ඒ මොහොතේම ප්‍රතිසන්ධිය ලබන බවයි. එනම් ඒ ශක්තිය වෙනත් තැනක ඇති වන බවයි. නමුත් ඒ 'මම​' නොවේ. මම කළ කී දේ අනුව නරක හා හොඳ ශක්තීන් සේව් කරගත් ශක්තියක් .  ඒ භව ශක්‍තිය ගොඩ නැගෙන්නේ බැඳීම උපාදාන වීම නිසා . (උපාදන පච්චයා භව​.)

එය හරියට පරිගණක සොෆ්ට්වෙයා එකක් ඩිලීට් වී වෙන පරිගනකයක ඉන්ස්ටෝල් වෙනව වගේ.  අර සොෆ්ට්වෙයා එක්ක ඩේටා යන්න පුලුවන් වගේ පවු පින් එක්ක ප්‍රතිසන්ධි වෙනව​.   නමුත් එය පරිගණකය තුල වැඩකරන විට අප hardware + software දකින්නේ එකම එකකයක් ලෙස . මෙය තමයි 'මම​'

ඒ නිසා තමයි නියම බුදු දහමේ පුනුරුප්පත්තියක් නැත කියන්නේ.  
​ "අප මැරුන පසු  කොහේවත් යන්නේ නැත​. නොයන්නේත් නැත" කියන්නේ.
මිහිඳු හිමි බුදු දහම නිල වශයෙන් ගෙනා දිනයේදී දෙවන පෑ තිස්ස රජතුමාගෙන් ඇසූ බුද්ධි පැනයන් ද මේ කාරණයට සම්බන්ධයි.  

Chinwi, hope you watched the whole video.... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

There are 30 videos in the link.... you will be addicted if you start with the 01st episode Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

lol!

D.G.Dayaratne


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
There is a difference in today" I" and tomorrow" I"

Same difference may have"I in this birth and next birth

But Buddhism is based onare Re Birth Sansara and Karma

Biggest problem is Evan most of leading Bikkus( Hamuduruwaru) do not believe Re Birth Sankara and KARMA

Best example is Muruththettuwe Ananda


What will happen to him in his next Birth?








Chinwi

Chinwi
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Chinwi, hope you watched the whole video....

There are 30 videos in the link.... you will be addicted if you start with the 01st episode

බොරු දෙසන දේශකයන්, නිවන් කෝස් කරන හිමි වරුන් හා ඔවුනගේ වැටුප් ලබන අනුගාමිකයන් අන්තර්ජාලයේ බිහිව තිබෙන සමයක  අභිධර්මය   හා පටිච්ච සමුප්පාදය අවබෝධ කරගෙන  අන් අයට දේශනා කරන   ස්වාමීන් වහන්සේ නමක් ලෙස මට තේරුනේ මුන් වහන්සේ. මා සියලු දේශනා අසා නැත​.   මා හට ගැටලුවක් ව පැවති ස්ථාන ලිහා ගැනීමට උපකාරී වූ මුල් දේශනා කොටස් අසා ඇත​. අද සමහර අය දෙසන දහම් දේශනා බුදු දහමේ මූලික පදනමටත් සම්පූර්ණයෙන්ම ප්‍රති විරුද්ධ වී ඇත​.

I started meditation 'experiments' in 2005 era. What I found was to get improvement in your brainpower you have to go beyond 'Anapana sathi' bhavana.  
Anapana sathi is something like stretching or warm up before achieving Vidarshana . (here I do not know what others  say)
Once you get enough practice you can go into samadhi like  state instantly. Before that you need hours of practicing and training of your brain to calm down. It may take months. I did leisurely while doing day to day work without any hard efforts. Suddenly one day you will realize you can control or cutoff all unwanted thoughts coming in.  

When you are in samadhi or total calmness, Vidarshana is coming effortlessly and you will explore and understand things you never thought before.

Popular Buddhism and its components - puja, ata pirikara, katina , continuous buildings , making biggest statues etc. - are cultural practices.

Chinwi

Chinwi
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Best example is Muruththettuwe Ananda

What will happen to him in his next Birth?

There will be no Muruththettuwe Ananda in a next birth.

In Buddhism, there is no rebirth.

Soul and Rebirth are taught in Jainism. You or your soul is not going anywhere after death as per Buddhism.

This is the main difference of these two very close ideologies.

D.G.Dayaratne


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
This is not connected to Dhammika perera's talk

Any way Do you say Sansara concept is not buddhism?
 Do you say
"Sumeda Thapasa" Who got the blessings of  Kassapa Buddha is not Govthama Buddha.?

This may be the theory of Basil Rajapaksa and the the gang ( Not you are included)

 who robed national wealth using War Victory

According to Buddhism They will suffer this  Birth(small amount) and Next Birth as animals continuously

I do not know Dhammika perera has robed the National wealth

20Dhammika Perera - Speech at the Chartered Accountants Conference on 21st October 2016 Empty NEW BEGGINING on Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:34 am

ruwan326

ruwan326
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@D.G.Dayaratne wrote:There is a difference in today" I" and tomorrow" I"

Same difference  may have"I in this birth and next birth

But Buddhism  is based onare Re Birth Sansara  and Karma

Biggest problem is Evan most of leading Bikkus( Hamuduruwaru) do not believe Re Birth Sankara and KARMA

Best example is Muruththettuwe Ananda


What will happen to him in his next Birth?








All what we believe was not real..........

We can change Karma and stop rebirth........... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Guys, wake up 90minutes earlier for 30 days and watch these 30 videos.........

This will change your life for ever......

If you learn to give up greed and wrong vision you achieved Sotapanna......... which will end the never ending life circle........
lol!
Here is the link again......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FyHEtVrvGw&index=11&list=RDa5puoMjE6AY

21Dhammika Perera - Speech at the Chartered Accountants Conference on 21st October 2016 Empty WHY on Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:45 am

ruwan326

ruwan326
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@D.G.Dayaratne wrote:This is not connected to Dhammika perera's talk

Any way Do you say Sansara concept is not buddhism?
 Do you say
"Sumeda Thapasa" Who got the blessings of  Kassapa Buddha is not Govthama Buddha.?

This may be the theory of Basil Rajapaksa and the the gang ( Not you are included)

 who robed national wealth using War Victory

According to Buddhism They will suffer this  Birth(small amount) and Next Birth as animals continuously

I do not know Dhammika perera has robed the National wealth
Since DP mention about Rahu Kala and put a wrong vision I wanted to open every once eyes....
If you watched these 30 episodes this will be the biggest investment of your life ever Very Happy

Mind can not be seen and it is a like a chain........ As long as you have greed and wrong vision you will continue your never ending life circle for billion years. That is why Buddha had to reborn billions of lives.

If you can watch "LUCY" you might get an idea... Western believe brain is the controller but according to Buddha it is your heart/thoughts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVt32qoyhi0

Chinwi

Chinwi
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
This is not simply a belief,  but what I study.

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As this is not a place to discuss dharma at higher level  -abhi dharma- I may stop with this comment.

We can start new thread if there are many contributors.

I think D.G is talking about  popular Sinhalese Buddhism.

If you learn abhidharma, - dhamma at high level-  you can realize nothing is transported or going from your body to any other place.
If not, Buddhism also can fail with the discoveries of modern science.

Aathma or soul concept is added   from Jainism by priests.  
Jathaka stories are just stories written in Dambadeni era 1200 years ago to explain valuable dhamma concepts. But the stories were created by writers.

Buddhist' life after death is called incarnation or prathisandhi.
To get prathi-sandhi nothing should go out  from the body. It is just  disappearing of vignana විඥාණ or energy   and appearing in some other place.
Similar phenomena is explained in quantum physics. They have found an electron disappearing from A , appearing at B without moving from A to B.

In this analysis, a particular person cannot get Incarnated. Because 'the Person' is a combination of  physical නාම රූප​ and Energy විඥාණ  . Buddha said it is an illusion . (  අවිද්‍යා )   .  
Only the energy part can appear elsewhere. That is why they say there is no rebirth in Buddhism.  If the 'person' is an illusion how can he get a rebirth .  This is the difficult part of Buddhism.

However, in popular Buddhism  they say last birth, this birth, next life etc.  Monks always say give money and goods and build big temples    so that you can live heavenly way in next birth.

(මූලික බුදු දහම  අනුව ප්‍රති සන්ධි වීමේදි වන්නේ එක් භවයක විඥාණය නැති වනවාත් සමගම වෙනත් ස්ථානයක එය ඇති වීමයි. තැන් දෙක අතර කිසිවක්  ගමන් නොකරන බැවින් දුර බල නොපායි. එයට උදාහරන ලෙස දක්වා තිබෙන්නේ කූඩැල්ලාගේ ගමනය​. කූඩැල්ලා එක ස්ථනයක් අත් අරින විටම තව ස්ථානයක් අල්ල ගෙන යයි.  
මෙය ත්‍රිමාන ලෝකයේ ඉන්නා අපට සත්‍ය යක් යැයි තෙරුම් ගත නොහැක​. අපේ මනස සකස්වී ඇත්තේ යම් දෙයක් A සිට B දක්වා යාමට නම් ඒ අතර ස්ථාන හරහා ගමන් කළයුතුම ලෙසය​.  නමුත් බහු මානයකදී මෙය සාමාන්‍ය දෙයක් වන්නට පුලුවන.)​


This is not simply a belief,  but what I study.

vic19

vic19
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
astrology is real since it is a practical science being followed for the many many centuries.

it has got a bad name due to  "horu astrologers  and money greedy astrologers ".

if you get the prediction of the past and future  from the real astrologers you will be amazed as to how true they are and their predictions are.

disregarding our elders welll known practises and customs are the cause of many ills in are society these days whether you believe it or not.  

lets cultivate this habits to our children, so that they will be good citizen of this planet with good morality.

it is a simple logic that what we saw is what we reap.  there for I tend to believe that our soul takes many many births on our death till we attain nirvana.

thanks

Garayaka


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic
Below link will further describes Dhammika Perera's life year by year. From LKR500 to current worth. Inspiring story.
http://www.island.lk/2002/12/17/busine01.html

TARGET


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Just see how cruel and hilarious this part.

There was a pavement hawker operating in front of my uncle’s restaurant. Instead of buying a pair of shoes, I lent him that Rs 500 on the understanding that he conducts his business on a profit sharing basis with me.

The life of a pavement hawker is a hard one. He starts his work early in the morning and continues till evening. He does not have time to relieve hinself nor does he have time to have his meals while hawking his goods. The only time he is free is when dusk sets in. Then he winds up his business for the day, said Perera.

So, this tie-up with this hawker brought me a return of Rs 200 on a daily basis, while my capital inveetment of Rs 500 remained in tact. This operation went on for three months, during which period I made a clear profit of Rs 74,000.

Chinwi

Chinwi
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@TARGET wrote:Just see how cruel and hilarious this part.

There was a pavement hawker operating in front of my uncle’s restaurant. Instead of buying a pair of shoes, I lent him that Rs 500 on the understanding that he conducts his business on a profit sharing basis with me.

The life of a pavement hawker is a hard one. He starts his work early in the morning and continues till evening. He does not have time to relieve hinself nor does he have time to have his meals while hawking his goods. The only time he is free is when dusk sets in. Then he winds up his business for the day, said Perera.

So, this tie-up with this hawker brought me a return of Rs 200 on a daily basis, while my capital inveetment of Rs 500 remained in tact. This operation went on for three months, during which period I made a clear profit of Rs 74,000.

දැන්  තත්ත්වය කොහොමද දන්නෙ නෑ මෑතක් වෙනතුරු කොළඹ හා අවට නගර වල මේක තමයි උනේ.

උදා: මාලු, එලවලු හෝ වෙන යම් දෙයක් පාරෙ අයිනේ හෝ ගෙවල්වලට විත් විකුණන අයට උදේ පාන් දර සල්ලි දෙන්න වෙනම අය ඉන්නව​.  උදේ දෙන සල්ලි වලට 10% එකතු කරල හවසට  ආපහු දෙන්න ඕන​.

මීට දශක 3-4 කට පෙර අපේ නිවසට එන මාලු වෙළෙන් දා පැවසූ දින චර්‍යාව​:

උදේම ණය දෙන අයගෙන් රු 1000 ක් ගන්නව​. හැබැයි ඔහු දෙන්නෙ 900 යි. පොලිය කලින්ම ගන්නව​. ඒකෙන් කොළඹ මාලු කඩේට ගිහින් තොග මිලට මාලු ගේනව​. ඒවා තමන් ඇවිදින පලාතට ගෙනත් මාලු මාලු කියමින් විකුනනව​. මාලු කද බරට බරේ උරහිසේ තියාගෙන දවසෙම ඇවිදල 1500 - 1600 ක් විතර උපයනව​.   ( රු 900 න් ඒ දවස් වල කද පිරෙන්නෙ මාලු )
හවසට අර රු 1000 ණය ගෙවනව​.
ඉතුරු සල්ලි වලින් ගෙදරට හාල් පොල්  භුමිතෙල් ගන්නව​. සිගරට් හෝ බීඩි මිටියක්, හවසට ශොට් එකකට වියදම​, දවල් කෑම හා තේ වියදම එහෙමත් ඒකෙන් කවර් වෙනව​. සමහර දිනකට 50/- ක විතර ඕලෝන් (අස්ස ගුඩුන්) පාරක් දානව​. පවුලේ හෝ අසල් වැසියකු ගේ වෙන අවශ්‍ය තාවක්  තිබුනොත් මුදල් ඉතුරු නම්  ඒවටත් වියදම් කරනව​. රෑ වෙනකොට අතේ 100 ක් විතර ඉතුරු වෙනව සමහර දවස් වලට​.
පස්සෙන් ද නැවතත් පොලි කාරය ගෙන් 900 ක් අරන් බිස්නස් එකට යනව​.

මාසෙ අන්තිමට (දින 25) ඔහුගෙ අතේ සීයක් දෙසීයක් ඉතුරු වෙනව​. පොලී කාරය ඉන්වෙස්ට් කරපු 900 ට පොලිය 2500 ක් ගෙවල​.
පොලියට දෙන කෙනා ඔහොම විවිධ ව්‍යාපාර කරන අය​10-20 දෙනෙකුට සල්ලි දෙනව දිනපතා .
ඔහු ගේ ධනය පමණක් සීග්‍රයෙන්   වැඩෙනව​.  ධනය සමගම බලය , තත්ත්වය ත් ඉහල යනව​. පලාතේ බලවතා වෙනව​.  ණය දෙන රිස්ක් එක අවම වෙනව​.

ඔය උගුලෙන් ගොඩ එන්න කියල අපේ තාත්ත මිනිහට දවසක් 1000 ක් දුන්න පැය 1/2 ක් විතර​ බණත් කියල ​. පොලියක් එපා මාසෙ අන්තිමට 1000 ආපහු දෙන්න කියල​. මිනිහ දවස් 3 යනකොට ඒක වියදම් කරල නැවතත් අර සුපුරුදු පහසු ක්‍රමයට වැටුන​.  1000 වෙනුවට මාලු අපට ලැබුන ටික ටික​.  
අද මයික්‍රෝ ක්‍රෙඩිට් කාරයො ගම දනවු සිසාරා ගොස් කරන්නෙත් අර පොලී මුදලාලිගෙ සෙල්ලම මයි. බහුතර ජනතාවගේ  මූල්‍ය පාලන දැනුම අවමව තිබෙන තාක් කල් ඕකෙන් ගැල වෙන්න බෑ.

හැබැයි ඉතින් හැදෙන මිනිහට මේ වගේ තත්ත්ව යොදාගෙන හැදෙන්නත් පුලුවන්.
ඇත්තටම සුලු වෙළෙඳාමෙ යෙදෙන බොහෝ අයට අපි බලපොරොත්තු වෙන මූල්‍ය පාලන දැනුමක් හා discipline එකක් උපතින්ම නැතුව ඇති.
ඉතින් සරල, වඩා පහසු දේ තමයි 10% පොලියට බිස්නස් කරල දවස අවසානයේ ණය ක්ලෝස් කරල ශොට් එකකුත් දාල හිත නිදහස්ව නින් දට යන එක​.

TARGET


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
But chinwi do you believe this dammika story?

D.G.Dayaratne


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
I request all who believe a Astrology to watch YATHARUPA of Rupawahini You can g get all programs from You tube

A also like to mention mentioned that No big difference in RE bBIRTH concept OF JAINA Relign Upanishd , Wedantha and Buddism. In genaral all belive birth after deth

Lord Buddhas main findings are ARYA ASHTANGIKA MARGAYA( Eight Fold Path) Chathr Arya Sathya those are given in his first Deshanawa toPASWAGA MAHANUN ( his friends)

Very soon there will be Scientific evidence to prove re Birth Even now it is available to certain extent

Cumming to the Topic Dhammika perera also will have next birth
in some form

He knows very well what he has done. He can think of form of his next BIRTH


anges


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
we know what you did dp,dj,np ! practice what you preach ! GODS MERCY BE UPON YOU ! poor peoples money ......................

Chinwi

Chinwi
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
@TARGET wrote:But chinwi do you believe this dammika story?


Street vendor story da?

Exaggerated or thats how he remembers .  
Usually you present good and hide bad. That is the nature of human.

What we can do is learn good points from any story and study for our needs.

for eg.

I started to look at an another angle about his 500 Rupee 'profit sharing' business he did with that vendor.

The 'investor' or lender  gives money in the morning to others and collect with 10% in the evening. Usually we take this as cruel.
If this happens for 12 months -assume daily- he gets 365 x 100 = 36,500 for 1000 Rupees he invested. Cruel isn't it ?

But, he  talked about a ' profit sharing' system.

If we analyse that way,  
there are two partners in the business. One person invests 1000 rupees and the other one use that money in their business activity. Their agreement is profit sharing.
Say, his (their) business is buying a dozen of CFL bulbs at 100/- (wholesale price ) and selling @ 135/-.
He earns 1350/- , his expenses say 150/- and profit 200/- .
As per the agreement each persons should get 100/- each as profit.

Cruel or not ?

cruiserdude


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
whats so cruel and hilarious about this part?? this is how business goes in Pettah.

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