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1EPF/ETF - Poor invesment strategies...  - Page 3 Empty EPF/ETF - Poor invesment strategies... on Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:10 am

Think9

Think9
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
First topic message reminder :

I always had this question. Do the EPF funds get invested in good shares?? and do the department analyst do proper study in stock before buying ??

EPF/ETF are people`s money. I think they have done so much mistakes before and im quite shocked who advice to buy.

i can remember, EPF bought huge qty of SPEN at 220, then 180 level , again 167 , latest 135 . And now its 134.. Why such a poor investments ? I mean we all know SPEN and most of the hotels got a higher PE. I mean just using simple ratios anyone can understand that SPEN is over-valued until it falls to 130-135 levels.. How many additional no.of shares EPF would ve got more no of shares, if they bought at 130-140 levels instead of 180-220 levels..

And mind you, EPF invested on GRAN at 220 levels..

Related articles :

http://www.ft.lk/2011/06/29/epf-active-in-sluggish-bourse/

http://www.ft.lk/2011/05/25/epf-buys-1-m-more-shares-of-spence-hotel-holdings/

http://www.ft.lk/2011/04/21/epf-invests-more-in-aitken-spence/



Last edited by Think9 on Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:16 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : spellings)


81EPF/ETF - Poor invesment strategies...  - Page 3 Empty Re: EPF/ETF - Poor invesment strategies... on Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:28 pm

gamaya


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
The stock market is what economists call a “constant sum game”.
That is,the total long term benefits available from the stock market are equal to the actual increase in dividends fromthe underlying stocks. All deviations from this underlying increase in value are “zero sum”: that is, one person’s loss is another person’s gain. Therefore, the huge underperformance of the EFP investment is not without beneficiaries.


So one day may be there could be an investigation as to who are the beneficieries?

82EPF/ETF - Poor invesment strategies...  - Page 3 Empty Calls for a monitoring mechanism for the EPF on Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:02 pm

Redbulls


Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
THURSDAY, 01 MARCH 2012 16:53
The Ceylon Federation of Labour (CFL) has expressed concern on the future viability of the Employees Provident Fund (EPF) if the government continues to ‘fiddle‘with the hard earned savings of workers to bolster the Colombo Stock Market.

CFL President T.M.R. Rasseedin said in a statement that in recent times because of the government's own doings the Colombo bourse dipped to an all time low in transactions and the Government has rescued it from the doldrums by taking easy recourse of using EPF monies to artificially prop up the stock market.

According to its 2010 Report the EPF, has increased its investment in the Colombo Stock Market to Rs 43.7 billion in 2010 from Rs. 9.8 billion in 2009, the highest-ever increase in investment in equities recorded so far. It is a 400% increase in equity investment which is above the permissible limit, the statement said. "We demand the authorities to publish details of investments made in listed and unlisted equities so that the public would know whether the Government has helped out its business cronies by purchasing their shares far above the real value," Mr Raseedin was quoted as saying.
The statement said that the Government must realise that the monies in the EPF belong to workers and not to the Central Bank or the Monetary Board and they cannot be permitted to gamble with the savings of workers.

To ensure prudent investment of these funds that the unions proposed the setting up of a Tripartite Consultative Committee in the draft EPF Amendment Act. The proposal was accepted and the amendment was in fact drafted with the express provision that "The committee shall be charged with the functions of discussing and exchanging views with the Central Bank and the Monetary Board in matters relating to the appropriation and investment of the monies lying to the credit of the fund and other functions as may be prescribed by the Minister for the purposes of this Act."

Strangely this provision has been omitted from the amendment of the EPF Act that was passed recently. The CFL urged the authorities to set up a mechanism that would enable representatives of workers and employers to oversee and monitor the operations of the Fund. "We call upon all trade unions to agitate for such a mechanism as the actions of the fund managers are increasingly becoming unacceptable and threaten the future viability of the fund," the CFL said.
http://sundaytimes.lk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16496:calls-for-a-monitoring-mechanism-for-the-epf-&catid=79:analysis&Itemid=565

83EPF/ETF - Poor invesment strategies...  - Page 3 Empty Re: EPF/ETF - Poor invesment strategies... on Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:43 pm

Quibit


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
This article provides loads of information about poor investments strategies of EPF.

84EPF/ETF - Poor invesment strategies...  - Page 3 Empty Re: EPF/ETF - Poor invesment strategies... on Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:24 pm

Chinwi


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
I do not think investing in stock market is a bad thing for a fund like EPF, IF it is done genuinely.
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මේගොල්ල දැන්ද මේවා දන්නේ ?
ගිය අවුරුද්දේ අපි කොච්චර මේ forum එකේම මේ ගැන කතා කළාද ?
අඩු ගානට එකතු කර ගත්තට පස්සේ නග්ගල EPF එකට විකුණන හැටි ; අපි එකතු කර ගන්න කන් EPF එකේ අපේම යාලුවෝ නිදාගෙන ඉන්න හැටි එහෙම. :-)

85EPF/ETF - Poor invesment strategies...  - Page 3 Empty Re: EPF/ETF - Poor invesment strategies... on Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:41 pm

mra


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
They are not into investment strategies. deals are getting a cross for certain big sharks own benefit. simple as that.

86EPF/ETF - Poor invesment strategies...  - Page 3 Empty Re: EPF/ETF - Poor invesment strategies... on Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:14 am

Sstar

Sstar
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
EPF and ETF Portfolio yet to see the light of the day.

87EPF/ETF - Poor invesment strategies...  - Page 3 Empty Re: EPF/ETF - Poor invesment strategies... on Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:38 am

SHARK aka TAH

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An average member in this forum could have done a better job Smile

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