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1Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Discussion on Alternative Investment on Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:14 pm

kelumhewage


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
dear experts...
just need to find out because of share market frustration i have and just thought of looking for a new invesment and also need to find out the reliability and productivity of this so called investment..

please have some time to give me a genuine idea about this and all comment are welcome warmly...

thought of this is gonna give me peace of mind and all possible posssitve and negetive comments...

experts call.... Question



Last edited by Monster on Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:53 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Title changed)

2Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:32 pm

manula


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
I also previousley thought about that... mainly beacuse i am working overseas... but as i heard you will not own the land.. There is another company called Sadaharitha Plantation also.. but main thing is not sure about this company future..same way..Touch wood also avail..but main good thing i feel is if you can start some thing along.. will be secure...

3Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:43 pm

kelumhewage


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
thanks for ur reply manula...

as i called them now on this number which is 01112478294...marketing manager mr,ranasinghe said to me that the land we buy is own by us...

so need enlighten u in there please receck calling this number..

thanks anyweay...

4Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:46 pm

manula


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Thanks for the info... but make sure to confirm when writing the deeds and next question is to make sure that you are getting the same profit as they mention in any case.. main thing is company stabilty.. good luck...

5Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:07 pm

Monster

Monster
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
I would advice you to purchase a land do the investment, if you are interested. But do not go behind Sadaharitha Plantation or Touchwood. As my understanding those are scams like pyramid schemes.

6Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:07 pm

econ

econ
Global Moderator
do not go for investment on future timber..

7Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:12 pm

illuminati


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Please please don,t fall prey to this racket. This is similar to pyramid scams. All these mango, teak, sandalwood plantations, are real scams that rip you off. As monster suggested if you want buy a few acres of land.

8Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:11 pm

hunter

hunter
Moderator
Moderator
Remind me of an old saying ; You can rely on your hands shade only. "Thama hisata thama athamaya sewanella"


9Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:28 pm

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
@illuminati wrote:Please please don,t fall prey to this racket. This is similar to pyramid scams. All these mango, teak, sandalwood plantations, are real scams that rip you off. As monster suggested if you want buy a few acres of land.
Yes I do agree with you.
Good straight forward advice.

10Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:56 am

bulletproof

bulletproof
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Hi,

Interesting topic, I have a little land and I am thinking of cultivating some Teak wood. but i have no idea from where to buy teak plants and other guidance. Appreciated if anyone can share some information.

Regards,
bulletproof

11Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:42 am

Sudee


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
Hi,

I do my own estate in Wanatawilluwa. According to my experience coconut plantation is a really good business.
What makes it really good is the capital appreciation of the estate, which is well above the annual profits from the sale of the coconuts.

Further, if you want to have an estate, do it by yourself. I don't advise green field. With green field, the ownership of the land is not an issue. You get the ownership of the land, but every thing else are doubtful.

The variety of the coconut plants by the green field can not be expected to have a long life, like other normal varieties. Normal varieties takes about 5 years approx to start harvesting, but this variety will be sooner. So customers will be attracted, but it will not last long.

This area is in dry zone. So during some part of the year this area gets no rain at all. In order to survive the coconut trees during this season and to maintain the crop & the size of the nuts, it is necessary to have husk pits in the estate. However, since the husk prices are now high many estate owners don't do this. Even the green filed doesn't. If you visit them during the dry season you will be able to see how those trees looks.

At the time of planting also, lot of husk should be placed inside the pit with the plant. But many people who are in the business of selling immature coconut plantations are not doing this. What they do is this. They buy a bare land, clean & prepare then just plant some nurseries. And they water the land for some time & sell quickly.

During dry season the water is very scared to find. So its not possible to water the plants during that time.

And the most difficult part is protecting the immature plants from insects between the age 2 - 6 years. The estates you buy from the green field will have plants which are in this age range. Due to an insect affection a tree can die with in few days. A tree which just starts to harvest at the age of 4 or 5 years would die from an infection if its not identified and treated soon.
So the whole effort would be lost. This is the risk.

Anyway if you can manage these risks smartly, you will really win. Estate values increase from 50% - 100% if you maintain them well.

12Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:45 am

manula


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@illuminati wrote:Please please don,t fall prey to this racket. This is similar to pyramid scams. All these mango, teak, sandalwood plantations, are real scams that rip you off. As monster suggested if you want buy a few acres of land.

Thanks for the advcie.. main problem we are facing is as overseas worker we are stuck with these type of thing.. becasue no one to help in SL to buy a land and grow... we have little options... as you said i am also not happy about those companys..still thinking... after coming back to SL ..we have to have some plan..

13Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:01 am

Sudee


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
@econ wrote:do not go for investment on future timber..

What do you mean by this?
What do you know about timber business & plantation????

14Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:16 am

Sudee


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
B/ proof,

Its a good investment. Teak will take about 20 years to harvest. Which is the shortest when compared with others like mahogany. But still teak gets the highest value than others.
Annually we import lot of teak from Mynmar & Malysia. One reason to import them is their quality. In Sri lanka such quality teak can be obtained only in North & North west regions. So do not plant in other regions of the country.

You can get the plants from the forest dept. But you how govt depts in SL functions, right?
Try and see, if not just lets me know. There are private vendors, but i don't have their contact numbers, right now.

15Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:22 pm

Expert

Expert
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Dear Sudee, your contribution is much appreciated. You seem to know a lot. Thanks a lot.

Those who really need to let others manage their land and cultivation on behalf of themselves, make sure that you get a proper deed under your name (not just some agreement) - get the services of a competent lawyer who really would look after your interests, at least to make sure you have the land at the end.

16Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:29 pm

Monster

Monster
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
My brother has planted around 3000 teak trees in North Central province 12 years ago. Around 5% trees died due to the drought and other natural disasters. His investment for the plantation is almost nothing. He should be able to harvest in next 6 - 8 years. He may be able to sell a tree around Rs 12,000/- ( I may be wrong). Even if he sell a tree at Rs 5000/- he would get a good return. This is a long term investment but you will get a good return for your investment.

17Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:39 pm

WildBear


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Sudee wrote:



You can get the plants from the forest dept. But you how govt depts in SL functions, right?
Try and see, if not just lets me know. There are private vendors, but i don't have their contact numbers, right now.

You can buy tissue cultured plants from CIC Agri Businesses nurseries , Just Rs. 15 per plant. so initial cost is negligible if you have a bare land.

18Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:42 pm

WildBear


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Monster wrote:My brother has planted around 3000 teak trees in North Central province 12 years ago. Around 5% trees died due to the drought and other natural disasters. His investment for the plantation is almost nothing. He should be able to harvest in next 6 - 8 years. He may be able to sell a tree around Rs 12,000/- ( I may be wrong). Even if he sell a tree at Rs 5000/- he would get a good return. This is a long term investment but you will get a good return for your investment.

@ Monster if you can find a good buyer you can sell them at many times higher than the above value. One of my friend sold an average size tree at 35 000/-

19Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:02 pm

Monster

Monster
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@WildBear wrote:
@Sudee wrote:



You can get the plants from the forest dept. But you how govt depts in SL functions, right?
Try and see, if not just lets me know. There are private vendors, but i don't have their contact numbers, right now.

You can buy tissue cultured plants from CIC Agri Businesses nurseries , Just Rs. 15 per plant. so initial cost is negligible if you have a bare land.
If I am not mistaken, you can get up to 1000 plants free of charge from Forest department.

20Discussion on Alternative Investment Empty Re: Discussion on Alternative Investment on Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:48 pm

manula


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
As CSE many compnies having core business ...better from our side also having different type of saving... except of share marekt .. you can save some other way like FD,plantation etc... Smile Smile

I am also thinking about the teak plantation and like to find a good land around 1 to 2 acre.....any idea...

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