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CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000)

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1CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty CIND another hidden counter @ bargain price. on Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:13 am

skyfall


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Guys, CIND was trading over Rs 100.00 few years back and now trading at a huge discount.
P/E is well below 10 and NAV is over Rs 100.00

Very illiquid share and always deliver good dividends.

Really good company with very solid performances.

Truly a hidden gem.

GLA

2CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:22 pm

skyfall


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Delivered one of most consistence profits in CSE. Especially in difficult times.  

2010  EPS  Rs8.65
2011  EPS  Rs7.48
2012  EPS  Rs10.71
2013  EPS  Rs9.74
2014  EPS  Rs7.65 (Some can argue 2013,2014 profits down compare to 2012 but they spent money on a new factory)

CIND is the manufacture of all National PVC pipes, fitting, water tanks & KYPTON electoral switches. Also the CILTEC electrical conduits.  National brand is one of the best selling pipes/fitting brand in Sri Lanka
They are widening the KYPTON product range at the moment due to higher demand.
CIND is also the distributor of HITACHI power tools.

They always deliver 40% profit to small investors.
CIND is an illiquid share that is massively undervalued. This was trading over Rs 100.00 not a long ago.

3CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:09 pm

NilangaG


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
First quarter EPS is 2.87, no doubt it's a buy.

4CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:39 pm

kkronline


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
Power tools and PVC aregood one for any nation who is chasing infrastructure. Raw material price is based on Crude oil and currency fluctuation.
CFL is another good area.
How about their Market Share?

5CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:05 am

skyfall


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
nilangagamage@gmail.com wrote:First quarter EPS is 2.87, no doubt it's a buy.
Yes current buy price gives you the best value for your investment.
The dividend yield is close to 5% as well.

6CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:08 am

Top Trader


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
National Brand has the good brand name even in the outstations as well, with Support of parent company they will be do better, with the increase in the construction sector.

I got the dividend this Sat

7CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:48 am

skyfall


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
One of the most undervalued illiquid share in the market. A long way to go.

8CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:42 pm

skyfall


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Good results from CIND

Profits up 27%
NAV Rs104
Market price Rs65

http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_report_file/665_1408011142438.pdf

9CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:10 pm

Jiggysaurus

Jiggysaurus
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@skyfall wrote:Good results from CIND

Profits up 27%
NAV Rs104
Market price Rs65

http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_report_file/665_1408011142438.pdf

Ayyo EPS is only 1.3.

Jilmart madi ne?

10CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:31 pm

skyfall


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Jiggysaurus wrote:
@skyfall wrote:Good results from CIND

Profits up 27%
NAV Rs104
Market price Rs65

http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_report_file/665_1408011142438.pdf

Ayyo EPS is only 1.3.

Jilmart madi ne?

Why? Do you expect Rs20,30 EPS per quarter from a Rs60 share.!!!

11CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:44 pm

Jiggysaurus

Jiggysaurus
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@skyfall wrote:
@Jiggysaurus wrote:
@skyfall wrote:Good results from CIND

Profits up 27%
NAV Rs104
Market price Rs65

http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_report_file/665_1408011142438.pdf

Ayyo EPS is only 1.3.

Jilmart madi ne?

Why? Do you expect Rs20,30 EPS per quarter from a Rs60 share.!!!

20-30 is too much but a Rs65 share needs to deliver at least 1.5+ per quarter

12CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:47 pm

windi5

windi5
Moderator
Moderator
good below 70. came back to profitable in the last two quarters.

13CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:54 pm

skyfall


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Jiggysaurus wrote:
@skyfall wrote:
@Jiggysaurus wrote:
Ayyo EPS is only 1.3.

Jilmart madi ne?

Why? Do you expect Rs20,30 EPS per quarter from a Rs60 share.!!!

20-30 is too much but a Rs65 share needs to deliver at least 1.5+ per quarter

You must be living in a dream world. According to you, we shouldn't be investing in more than 80% of the listed companies at CSE.

Most of the rest show low PE due to one off gains.

14CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:59 pm

Jiggysaurus

Jiggysaurus
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@skyfall wrote:
@Jiggysaurus wrote:
@skyfall wrote:
@Jiggysaurus wrote:
Ayyo EPS is only 1.3.

Jilmart madi ne?

Why? Do you expect Rs20,30 EPS per quarter from a Rs60 share.!!!

20-30 is too much but a Rs65 share needs to deliver at least 1.5+ per quarter

You must be living in a dream world. According to you, we shouldn't be investing in more than 80% of the listed companies at CSE.

That left shares only show low PE due to one off gains.

Long term inventers have to say big big talks about the shares they own ne. Just like with PALM (now less big talks).

For new inventers 1.3 EPS is just not good enough, there are enough CSE companies with better EPS growth. Long term inventers can happily hold getting Rs 3 every year.

15CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:44 pm

skyfall


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Jiggysaurus wrote:
@skyfall wrote:
@Jiggysaurus wrote:
@skyfall wrote:
@Jiggysaurus wrote:
Ayyo EPS is only 1.3.

Jilmart madi ne?

Why? Do you expect Rs20,30 EPS per quarter from a Rs60 share.!!!

20-30 is too much but a Rs65 share needs to deliver at least 1.5+ per quarter

You must be living in a dream world. According to you, we shouldn't be investing in more than 80% of the listed companies at CSE.

That left shares only show low PE due to one off gains.

Long term inventers have to say big big talks about the shares they own ne. Just like with PALM (now less big talks).

For new inventers 1.3 EPS is just not good enough, there are enough CSE companies with better EPS growth. Long term inventers can happily hold getting Rs 3 every year.

Regarding PALM when I initially mentioned that, it was trading around Rs70.00 and if you are really desperate you can still exit with 40% profits.

Can you name a single share that gave any benefit to small investors?

Experts sold SERV when they announced the right issue at Rs 10.00 but see where it is now. It was losing money not a long ago. Something will happen with PALM. Most companies don’t do right issues to play Casino. Highly talented experts, Gurus in public forums cant understand that. They think all the listed companies are similar to PC house. Companies can’t do upgrades, expansions without spending money. Unless they have platinum mines on their own land they have to find ways to find that money. Hope your brain can understand that.

When I mentioned the CHOT, it was trading at Rs14.10. An expert like you may consider that as a business does n’t make enough profits. Whoever bought it at the time must be enjoying staggering 70% return on their investment. Some expert can’t understand this very basic. They need everything on their plate without much effort.

CIND recently expand their business by opening a new factory. If you have no clue then go and have a look on AR and a bit of newspaper reading.

16CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:51 pm

Jiggysaurus

Jiggysaurus
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@skyfall wrote:
@Jiggysaurus wrote:
@skyfall wrote:
@Jiggysaurus wrote:
@skyfall wrote:
@Jiggysaurus wrote:
Ayyo EPS is only 1.3.

Jilmart madi ne?

Why? Do you expect Rs20,30 EPS per quarter from a Rs60 share.!!!

20-30 is too much but a Rs65 share needs to deliver at least 1.5+ per quarter

You must be living in a dream world. According to you, we shouldn't be investing in more than 80% of the listed companies at CSE.

That left shares only show low PE due to one off gains.

Long term inventers have to say big big talks about the shares they own ne. Just like with PALM (now less big talks).

For new inventers 1.3 EPS is just not good enough, there are enough CSE companies with better EPS growth. Long term inventers can happily hold getting Rs 3 every year.

Regarding PALM when I initially mentioned that, it was trading around Rs70.00 and if you are really desperate you can still exit with 40% profits.

Can you name a single share that gave any benefit to small investors?

Experts sold SERV when they announced the right issue at Rs 10.00 but see where it is now. It was losing money not a long ago. Something will happen with PALM. Most companies don’t do right issues to play Casino. Highly talented experts, Gurus in public forums cant understand that. They think all the listed companies are similar to PC house. Companies can’t do upgrades, expansions without spending money. Unless they have  platinum mines on their own land they have to find ways to find that money.  Hope your brain can understand that.

When I mentioned the CHOT, it was trading at  Rs14.10. An expert like you may consider that as a business does n’t make enough profits. Whoever bought it at the time must be enjoying staggering 70% return on their investment. Some expert can’t understand this very basic. They need everything on their plate without much effort.

CIND recently expand their business by opening a new factory. If you have no clue then go and have a look on AR and a bit of newspaper reading.

Those who own the share (like you) have to make big big talks. So good work doing the big big talks.

New inventers should not get caught to such big big talks because 1.3 is not good enough.

2012 EPS 10.7 2013 EPS 9.7, 2014 EPS 7.7 2015 EPS 5.5???? Some will find difficult to understand the basic reduction in EPS towards down the pallang.

Nothing for new inventers to pay 65 for, but big big talks will continue from those who hold the share.

17CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:57 pm

skyfall


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Jiggyasuru, can you name a single share that help investors to make money? Also name a company expand without spending money. When companies expand they have to take loans, right issue, reducing profits.

sERV is a very good example.

Some expert saints cant understand & give pora talks to others bcos of jealousy.

18CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:31 pm

kkronline


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
ofcourse llub expanded with sooper good investment for their new blending plant from accurals.
nestle did. ROE is important tool.
But certain cyclic/small/mid cap companies cant do it without debts or equity dilution. CIND is very good in water management projects but Gov lags on those spending. when gov achieves water management related projects, then CIND will have windfall gains. their krypton yet to kick off with bigbang. so patience required in this counter. but certainly it will be biggest gainer if infra growth kicks in.

19CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:48 pm

SHARK aka TAH

SHARK aka TAH
Expert
Expert
I was eyeing CIND ....

Around 65-60 seem undervalue.....
And good to position our entry ...

20% min appreciation would be a welcome Very Happy

20CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) Empty Re: CENTRAL INDUSTRIES PLC (CIND.N0000) on Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:49 pm

SHARK aka TAH

SHARK aka TAH
Expert
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With 3 Million Shares only in Public .... anything can happen  Rolling Eyes 

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