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341JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:46 am

Teller


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JKH has posted billions plus losses in last quarter . I understood this earlier and thats why i downgraded it to below 100/= , you can refer my pervoius posts related to JKH in this same post.

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342JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:49 am

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343JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:49 am

SUSPENS


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Teller , please bring JKH below 100...if so, I will be greatly appreciated you...
Plzzz teller plzzzz....
Do some videos and bring it back 

Bring back ...bring back my pony to me....

344JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:51 am

Baba2020


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@ Teller, do anyone want special knowledge to understand that JKH will make losses for June qtr. Even three wheel driver knows this. Not only JKH, SPEN will also report losses for June qtr

345JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:58 am

Teller


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I dont want to downgrade it . But i wrote the reality those who set the target for jkh 130/140/150/160/200 . Actually JKH got huge negative impact grom corona based on the nature of its operations.

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346JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:02 am

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@Baba2020 wrote:@ Teller, do anyone want special knowledge to understand that JKH will make losses for June qtr. Even three wheel driver knows this. Not only JKH, SPEN will also report losses for June qtr

Same results for the all blue chips....
So don't worry they will show their class with good news...like license , tourist arrival , covid medicine , election results etc....

347JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:06 am

Baba2020


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@ Suspence, actually I don't have JKH or SPEN. But these guys put unnecessary fears in poor retailers mind to take advantage.

348JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:09 am

Teller

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SPEN has no value above 30 , in same way Jkh should drop below 100 prior to its next jourey. I talk here based on my 58% portion.


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349JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:11 am

Baba2020


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Yes Teller, except your HEXP other all are craps

350JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:13 am

Teller

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(Hexp) Dont make me busy please. 140+ navps, 20 plus eps, postive cash flow, continuously development company ,regular dividedns , so WHAT ELSE YOU WANT?



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351JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:53 am

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352JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:02 am

Teller

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We should not talk about the impact to net asset value bbecause of this loss . Some one want to show it for misleading . We should talk about itss Eps and cash flow issue , and the time line it can continue . As jkh overheads are more , its really difficult to manage its cashflow . Especially exposure to hotels and tourism related still not having a clear picture


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353JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:35 am

Promoney


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They have had positive cashflow even in June qtr, and the IFC US$ 175Mn was given after the Jun qtr. They have more than enough cashflows

354JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:50 am

Baba2020


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When Teller want to discourage he used to tell stories. If cash flow problem is there, how they pay 600mn dividend. He doesn't know how to check the cash flow problem in CFS

355JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:17 pm

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He is doing what he is paid for

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356JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:39 pm

madukp


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@Teller wrote:We should not talk about the impact to net asset value bbecause of this loss . Some one want to show it for misleading .  We should talk about itss Eps and cash flow issue , and the time line it can continue . As jkh overheads are more , its really difficult to manage its cashflow . Especially exposure to hotels and tourism related still not having a clear picture

Teller, why do you emphasize hotels and tourism only in JKH? If you are honest why don't you get the overall picture of JKH, all the business they are doing, and point out + / - in each section? Personally, I'm happy to see even 0.5 rupee dividend they have paid given that is the first interim. We've seen how JKH impacted over the past few years due to political issues running in the country. But investors are seeing the value of this share. If you are seeing something that ordinary ppl can't see, please show it clear with facts. Thanks.

357JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:53 pm

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Im talking about the operating cash flow here. Taking loans and paying dividend is against the concept . Who knows they want to maintain the share price and go for another right issue. Its a peanut 0.50 cents companies like JKH . Based on its assets based JKH has achieved very poor performance. In this situation fundemental value below to 100/- , this is the reason i didnt recommend jkh in recent past. You can refer my old posts


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358JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:09 pm

madukp


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@Teller wrote:Im talking about the operating cash flow here. Taking loans and paying dividend is against the concept . Who knows they want to maintain the share price and go for another right issue. Its a peanut 0.50 cents companies like JKH . Based on its assets based JKH has achieved very poor performance.  In this situation fundemental value below to 100/- , this is the reason i didnt recommend jkh in recent past. You can refer my old posts

This is true. I have referred your previous explanations too, those posts are not justifying the fact that JKH should trade under 100. When thinking about the world economic situation and he JKH has performed, still JKH is undervalued as per my view. True, they have losses, I agree that 0.5 profit share is a peanut and the fact that paying a dividend and taking loans rhyme together. But when going through the JKH business perspective one can be anticipated this share will be appreciated to 150 levels in 2021 first quarter easily.

359JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:13 pm

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I am not against to JKH in long term . Of course it can give 100-200% return in long . But i against in short term CMP. Here so many members upgraded its value 140-160 as a sooner target . But how is it practical . Thats my question .GL


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360JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:21 pm

madukp


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@Teller wrote: I am not against to JKH in long term . Of course it can give 100-200% return in long . But i against in short term CMP. Here so many members upgraded its value 140-160 as a sooner target . But how is it practical . Thats my question .GL

I see that makes sense.

But I really doubt your "value is under 100 theory". True it went down to 80s once, its purely based on the stupidity of the people.

Thanks for sharing. Will you be able to analyze in detail and provide a clear picture of JKH business on diversified sectors and make a prediction when investors could see this giant to be in his feet again? Question

361JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:01 pm

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@Teller wrote: I am not against to JKH in long term . Of course it can give 100-200% return in long . But i against in short term CMP. Here so many members upgraded its value 140-160 as a sooner target . But how is it practical . Thats my question .GL
is there a difference in between 140-160/= mentioned by those members and 80/= mentioned by you.

362JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:13 pm

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I clearly told , i pay 80- 100 , thats my decision. Different investors have different strategies.


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363JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:04 pm

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JKH lost is partly due to retail sector which was directly impacted by lock down. In my opinion June will be their worst quarter.

364JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:42 pm

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when they lost LMS IN 2009/2008 ON court ruling it was down to 55-65. did't take long to recover .IN CSE bull run without JKH ,I never herd of.

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365JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) - Page 18 Empty Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:37 pm

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