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241LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:06 pm

Miss-Sangeetha


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Moderator

Teller wrote:Teller is here , roaming around the world.  You can contact him any time (whatsapp 0094779611094), if you feel you missed him. I am keeping silent on prediction as i am carefully study the market forces. As i said earlier 70% my portfolio sold . I strongly advise shares which achieved my targets , you should decide not to continue. As example i made Management (MGT) secondary target as 18.40 LKR, firstly 9 to 14.20 then 18.40, both target achieved now. I strongly believe you must exit MGT now. Same way DPL. AEL to be 18,and so many shits shares will come same level prior to election ,Remember this market doesnt have wings. As retailers you should know how to handle with care. As per the latest changes of the PESTEEL factors,be careful with finance sector  shares. I recommended LOFC 3.50, believe still you are in profit. But after the recent changes LOFC also has a doubt .Rember finance companies have to suffer in coming 18 months. So many bad and doubtful debts to be extended as government is going to instruct finance companies and banks. Foreigners look the Macro factor, so be on alert . I know better than others how it works...



You are always saying this whenever your promoted shares facing dead end.
 You said ''I recommended LOFC 3.50, believe still you are in profit''.

but you were promoted LOFC vehemently above Rs.4.10 and said LOFC on the right track. 
What about the plight of these innocent investor who bought above 4.10? 
Now all has to face the PV inner bullish


You promoted HEXP @Rs.65 but above Rs.112 you were promoted vehemently, finally your boss downloaded HEXP at Rs.97.50 on small investors heads, thus your boss captured huge amount of retailer to download his HEXP backload



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242LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:20 pm

Teller


Moderator
Moderator

Hi sangeetha, my predictions affected with recent changes done by government , changes of these taxes will affect negatively to the sector. Simply an investor may think those are postives, but those are negatives in a medium run. So i can not justify the things now. Most of guys baight 3.50 to 3.90, so our members are in safe heaven. Honestly i can not expect like before after changes. Im in a selling side now and for me no buying signal of most shares. Let others to buy blinndly but me not.

243LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:46 pm

wealth123


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

LOFC , people who bought at high prices Do not Sell.
Share price will rise, this is not a crap to fall like that.
All these dips are due to the group restructuring which will be finalized sooner as they do have a limited time remaining.
This is another drama, Now some party desperate to buy cheap.
How can these new taxes effect badly to the finance industry ?
Teller, explain this without creating chaos among innocent investors.

244LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:03 pm

Promoney


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

I can remember him saying 90% of the stocks are overvalued and that the index will fallto below 5,200 when the ASPI was at around 5,700 levels.
I think Teller missed the boat and sold too early and now wants return : )

245LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:47 pm

vikiperera


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Teller recommended lofc even at Rs 4.10

246LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:21 pm

hammurabi

hammurabi
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

The price is being controlled. I had been watching this share everyday for last 6 months. whenever there is an uptrend and continuous buyings happen so much of quantity piles up at 4. REPEATEDLY. and when the price go back to 3.8 again bulk quantities being purchased. Whoever is doing this its very unethical. We should complain about this to SEC. Maybe a related party is collecting so much to benefit the company at  delisting offer

247LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:05 am

Teller

Teller
Moderator
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@vikiperera, i clearly told entry @3.50 , even im hold at such a level , my target was 6 prior to the monetary policy changes, now scenario is different and central bank, SEC guidelines, macro and micro factors are going to change. In such a scenario, my 4 possible scenarios will not work even works it takes unusual timing. I never advise any one to exit even at 4 , but i will remove my "GUARANTEED 6" due to recent policy changes. Expansion of a budge deficit has an inverse effect to any type of economy.

248LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:09 am

wealth123


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Ha ha, Change the meaning of the word " Guaranteed ".
Teller became like a Fortune Teller here.

249LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:34 am

King of vice

King of vice
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

hammurabi has a good point here. He is absolutely correct. Whenever the share tries to pass the resistance barrier at Rs/4, huge quantities are offered at that price thus keeping it below 4. Some interested party is collecting around 3.80. Think it has some thing to do with the expected delisting.

250LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:16 am

wealth123


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Now I'm in doubt over LOFC's last Qtr results, Only LOFC.N Impairments were very high when others are recovering. Even their sister company which does same business did well in that Qtr.
May be a plan to discourage investors.

251LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:35 am

Promoney


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Yes.. on prudence principal they are able to increase provisions for bad debts (impairments). Financial institutions use this loophole for manipulations

252LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:02 pm

vikiperera


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Lofc is value for money below Rs 4.

253LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:09 pm

Teller

Teller
Moderator
Moderator

vikiperera, i checked your IP and came to know about your role

254LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:14 pm

wealth123


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Teller, Hiw can these tax revisions badly effect to Finance Companies, Pl teach us

255LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:11 pm

npgslnawa


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Dear teller tel me about colo

256LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:53 pm

Bakka1988

Bakka1988
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Teller wrote:@vikiperera, i clearly told entry @3.50 , even im hold at such a level , my target was 6 prior to the monetary policy changes, now scenario is different and central bank, SEC guidelines, macro and micro factors  are going to change. In such a scenario, my 4 possible scenarios will not work even works it takes unusual timing. I never advise any one to exit even at 4 , but i will remove my "GUARANTEED 6" due to recent policy changes.  Expansion of a budge deficit has an inverse effect to any type of economy.
What is the effect. Please explain

257LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:15 pm

vikiperera


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Teller wrote:vikiperera, i checked your IP and came to know about your role
ඔක්කොටම lofc ගන්ඩ කියලා මිනිහ යටින් ගත්ත ටික 4ට විකුණ ගත්තා. ෆෝරම් එකේ කෑ ගහ ගහ මේක මෙයා ප්‍රමෝට් කළේ.  දැන් මුකුත් දන්නේ නෑ වගේ ඉන්නවා අයියෝ teller

258LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:23 pm

Teller

Teller
Moderator
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Some times, im wondering you are living in sri lankan society or not . Even child knows that their was tax restructuring after new president was elected. So i change my LOFC TARGET BASED ON THAT. Otherwise i keep my target steady. No one can change Political,economical ,legal factors made by government . After these reversal 2/4 my scenarios will not work . Thats why i clearly told that i have a doubt on 6/-, i recommended 3.50 LKR as entry ,even 4 it will be well maintained.
For better understanding read 11 page article made by world bank cheaf about his concerns about tax cut. I understood this downturn at the time of ahnouncement of this tax cut.
Thats why i started the sell some of my shares. I believe my knowledge and my rights. There is no pump and dump here as you alleage.

259LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:28 pm

Teller

Teller
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Teller understood his comcerns prior to any one. Thats why he sold most of his holdings. Your shares you decide,my shares i WILL. thats my RIGHT...

Sri Lanka’s economy could be destabilized if a fiscal stimulus in the form of a tax cuts turns out to be unsustainable, the World Bank Chief Economist for South Asia, Hans Timmer said.

“In Sri Lanka, going forward, there’s objectively a reason for fiscal stimulus but there’s not enough space to actually do it,” Timmer said, speaking at a public lecture organized by the Central Bank of Sri Lanka on the effects of slowing global growth in South Asia.

“Then you have to be very careful to balance that. Because if you over-stimulate when you don’t have the room, instead of stabilizing economy, you could destabilize the economy,” he said.

260LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:43 pm

wealth123


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Ha ha..Good reasons.
I didn't bought base on your recommendation, So I'm holding.
2/4 scenarios will not work, will see.May be other 2 will work after collecting enough quantity

261LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:28 pm

NANDANA2012


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

There is a "Happy" factor also in the economy after Elections, that cant be estimated by Economic measurements. People are happy with what is happening and that is more than they expected (very few minus points too), so they all positive in their work, which add upto the economic activity...Not just tax cuts...

262LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:34 pm

Teller

Teller
Moderator
Moderator

"Duka ho sathuta ho ethi wanne , siduwima matha nowa siduwima desa apa balana vidhiya anuwai..."

GL

263LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:07 am

ThilinaM

ThilinaM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

At current market my valuation for LOFC is 2.5 RS max.

There are banks 2.5 times below NAV with paying dividents why we buy NAV close finance company with no divident???

264LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:35 pm

Teller

Teller
Moderator
Moderator

Guys, if you hold LofC , you can hold it , due to tax reversal my 2/4 wil not work. It means there is less chance to touch it 6/-, these type of tax changes is unplanned , also it will be negatively effect LOFC 2/4 scenarios.

265LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:59 pm

Promoney


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Ok Teller since you are all mighty genie we will sell

266LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:17 am

King of vice

King of vice
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

What about that old rumor of "Delisting?" If they are going to delist, what's the price they have to pay the share holders? Can some pundit please enlighten us?

267LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:09 pm

KavinduTM

KavinduTM
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

@vikiperera Dude you sounds like a shit. Respect people who deserves it. If u can't , just stfu

268LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:36 am

Teller

Teller
Moderator
Moderator

Gents , listen carefully . Basically i dont revise my target except latest financial reports. But in this scenario is totally different. Due to government tax policy changes ,my LOFC 2/4 scenario may not work. In such a case we cant expect sudden 6/_, , my changes based on new tax restructuring. It doesnt mean whole changes are bad some good points are there. But due to tax factor Lofc will dull. It doesnt mean it doesnt worth . Of course its worthy but has to hold longer for a better gain . I think you understand. GL

269LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:06 am

King of vice

King of vice
Senior Equity Analytic
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Your explanation is quite convincing Teller. You had no way of knowing the new government's policy changes. Do you by the way, know anything about that "delist" talk? Are they gonna proceed with that and if so, what price they have to pay the share holders?

270LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) - Page 11 Empty Re: LOLC FINANCE PLC (LOFC.N0000) Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:56 pm

NANDANA2012


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Teller wrote:Gents , listen carefully . Basically i dont revise my target except latest financial reports. But in this scenario is totally different. Due to government tax policy changes ,my LOFC 2/4 scenario may not work. In such a case we cant expect sudden 6/_, , my changes based on new tax restructuring. It doesnt mean whole changes are bad some good points are there. But due to tax factor Lofc will dull. It doesnt mean it doesnt worth . Of course its worthy but has to hold longer for a better gain . I think you understand. GL

Most of the time your predictions are right and has a good argument for it. But I am at a loss to understand how Bank / Finance get adversely affected when their taxes (DRL) are cut down, more economic activity and resultant more loans from Banks / Finance, Less Bad debts due to better income etc...PLS CLARIFY....

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