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161ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:49 pm

NANDANA2012


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@ColomboCSE wrote:i'm RCL fan  Smile  and to be honest with you guys... for the following reason i thinks CSE most of shares over valued... if i consider value investing...not Short-term trading...
b'cos i'm very less skills and there is no any inside contacts to do "Short-term trading"...(if you have these two, then best is "Short-term trading")

1) first reason is currency depreciation, we have to make profit with include "currency depreciation rate"
2) inflation (i don t want to talk again sri lanka inflation rate)
3) most of shares EPS is 8% to 12% rate... if you reduced inflation , currency depreciation then you can imagine how about your profit...
(I hope @teller also mention this 90%...)

Next then why RCL is going up again...

I hope Its about "L B FINANCE PLC"
in RCL, if i'm not mistaken most profit come from LB... so that's why this is going up...

I hope @Teller also indirectly mention this early days... 



@teller wrote:Teller"@teller your thoughts please",
In case if LFIN touch 150 levels, RCL will have its own way to upward. You should understand what im tellling....hahaha.
I will not tell you every thing.



I hope without just telling anything defend your argument technically that's good, then we all can gain maximum output in this forum...

Point 1 - Only Applicable to Foreigners or who earning in Foreign Exchange

Point 2 - Yes, Inflation will be an issue - But Govt will have to control it, else many issues.

Point 3 - A share value is calculated by Market price / EPS, If this value is less share is valuable, usually upto 10 times its undervalued. RCL EPS is about 3.5. And Net assets above 200, So both ways valuable than 200. 

Tile Sector shares started running yesterday most probably expecting good results for the quarter. LFIN making Good profits even during this hard period is amazing, and ofcourse is a further plus point for RCL.

162ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:59 pm

ColomboCSE


Manager - Equity Analytics
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@NANDANA2012 wrote:Point 1 - Only Applicable to Foreigners or who earning in Foreign Exchange

Nandana how many items we are importing. 
our trade balance.  
when we import we can not paid from LKR...most of CSE companies will impact currency depreciation rate

@NANDANA2012 wrote:Point 2 - Yes, Inflation will be an issue - But Govt will have to control it, else many issues.
if gov is controlling... just compare yearly price change... 2010 to 2019 then you will understand they only used basic need... most of key items removed from Inflation calc.
just compare how much your living cost increased 2010 to 2019...
(i did not mean your lifestyle change) 

@NANDANA2012 wrote:Point 3 - A share value is calculated by Market price / EPS, If this value is less share is valuable, usually upto 10 times its undervalued. RCL EPS is about 3.5. And Net assets above 200, So both ways valuable than 200. 

this is good point... how many companies you can see good EPS growth last 10 years?

163ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:09 pm

KavinduTM


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@ColomboCSE wrote:i'm RCL fan  Smile  and to be honest with you guys... for the following reason i thinks CSE most of shares over valued... if i consider value investing...not Short-term trading...
b'cos i'm very less skills and there is no any inside contacts to do "Short-term trading"...(if you have these two, then best is "Short-term trading")

1) first reason is currency depreciation, we have to make profit with include "currency depreciation rate"
2) inflation (i don t want to talk again sri lanka inflation rate)
3) most of shares EPS is 8% to 12% rate... if you reduced inflation , currency depreciation then you can imagine how about your profit...
(I hope @teller also mention this 90%...)

Next then why RCL is going up again...

I hope Its about "L B FINANCE PLC"
in RCL, if i'm not mistaken most profit come from LB... so that's why this is going up...

I hope @Teller also indirectly mention this early days... 



@teller wrote:Teller"@teller your thoughts please",
In case if LFIN touch 150 levels, RCL will have its own way to upward. You should understand what im tellling....hahaha.
I will not tell you every thing.



I hope without just telling anything defend your argument technically that's good, then we all can gain maximum output in this forum...

Those points are right. But all of them are being corrected (which was destroyed for years)

rupee depreciated by 30% for that 5 years period. Inflation rate also will be corrected with the tax cuts there are more people interested in starting their own business.

Yeah. your point is right only if UNP won this election. Now path changed. Sequence of those 2 charts are almost changed so don't calculate with the last acceleration.

Good time is coming for RCL

164ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:09 pm

Teller


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How teller strongly told buy LFIN @ 130, and same time put his target 156 , (refer one of my old posts), these are hidden calcs. Only advanced and experience tech and fund...guy can see those 100% predictions. I dont care others to follow me or not. But thats the reason im 99% profit not only cse but also world.

@colombocse, you have some brain to understand what i say. Because i dont tell every thing now. Only intelligence guys will understand who i am

165ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:13 pm

Teller


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""""""Haaaa😂😂😂😂😂"",
@colombo cse , you read my mind..i like such guys
"I hope @Teller also indirectly mention this early days... "

166ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:21 pm

KavinduTM

KavinduTM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Teller wrote:How teller strongly told buy LFIN @ 130, and same time put his target 156 , (refer one of my old posts), these are hidden calcs. Only advanced and experience tech and fund...guy can see those 100% predictions. I dont care others to follow me or not. But thats the reason im 99% profit not only cse but also world.

@colombocse, you have some brain to understand what i say.  Because i dont tell every thing now. Only intelligence guys will understand who i am

You are a good predictor. No doubt on that. But i m not satisfied with ur opinion for CSE. Even u told to exit from CSE.

When we see some new hope after a shitty 5 years. Now you are telling no future for CSE. And always telling about the rates which was destroyed by last gov. Don't u think this gov will correct them? What happened after 2005 to CSE.


MR and GR ended the war which was our motherland suffered for 30 years. and which was more than 3 presidents and leaders were scared about and postponed. Everyone told its not possible to end that war. Even with the international pressures they won it. MR had power and knowledge. GR made right decisions. Compared to 2009 now we are having a little challenge. 
And i believe they will win over it.

Good Luck for our motherland.

167ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:35 pm

Teller

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Dont mix mother land and investment. I also believe GR may do some thing . Even i have to respect him due to he was elected by majority voters. But understand ,as an analyser , i use fundementals,technicals and the global trend. Based on those i have done so many complicated calcs which are the basis of my predictions. So i always monitor actual vs forcasts , then i decide buy,sell or hold. Fortunately or unfortunately 90% of my results force me to SELL. Your guys no need to angry with me but i stick on those


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Teller said is said..

168ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:47 pm

KavinduTM

KavinduTM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Teller wrote:Dont mix mother land and investment. I also believe GR may do some thing . Even i have to respect him due to he was elected by majority voters. But understand ,as an analyser , i use fundementals,technicals and the global trend. Based on  those i have done so many complicated calcs which are the basis of my predictions. So i always monitor actual vs forcasts , then i decide buy,sell or hold. Fortunately or unfortunately 90% of my results force me to SELL. Your guys no need to angry with me but i stick on those

Haha it's okay no offence. This is a democratic country (idk about dubai). Everyone is free to do whatever with their analysis + opinion. Okay then What's your target for ASI? and what about this uptrend? 

Technical charts will gone mad. 2015 to 2020 period and 2020 to 2025 will be totally different. 

Lets see.

169ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:22 pm

ColomboCSE


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@KavinduTM wrote:
@KavinduTM wrote:rupee depreciated by 30% for that 5 years period. Inflation rate also will be corrected with the tax cuts there are more people interested in starting their own business.


this is really good point @KavinduTM i was really like tax cut, B'cos most of VAT collecting form us but not paid to Gov. they used it for them self.(applicable who is not paid tax Cool )
yes really we can say if tax reduced living cost will anyway reduced. but best way is correctly calc inflation rate.


Next,
i'm not supporting any political party... but as very small investor,
1)in 2005 to 2011 (we have war, but The way gov handle economy is OK)
2)in 2012 to 2015 ( I don't like The way gov handle economy... lots of manipulation,used loans for bad investments)
3)in 2015 to 2019 ( I don't like The way gov handle economy... lots of manipulation, bad decisions... few good rules added to CSE,compare to 2005 to 2015 very little reduced gov cost, haven't any good investments)
4)in 2019/Dec to now (65% of decisions good 35% not good)

This is what i seen as vary small investor...  Smile
 

Yes... Good time is coming for RCL also my hope Very Happy
worried about Aluminium, Plantation own by RCL... hope Aluminium will be ok but Plantation not sure..

170ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:38 pm

NANDANA2012


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@ColomboCSE wrote:
@KavinduTM wrote:
@KavinduTM wrote:rupee depreciated by 30% for that 5 years period. Inflation rate also will be corrected with the tax cuts there are more people interested in starting their own business.


this is really good point @KavinduTM i was really like tax cut, B'cos most of VAT collecting form us but not paid to Gov. they used it for them self.(applicable who is not paid tax Cool )
yes really we can say if tax reduced living cost will anyway reduced. but best way is correctly calc inflation rate.


Next,
i'm not supporting any political party... but as very small investor,
1)in 2005 to 2011 (we have war, but The way gov handle economy is OK)
2)in 2012 to 2015 ( I don't like The way gov handle economy... lots of manipulation,used loans for bad investments)
3)in 2015 to 2019 ( I don't like The way gov handle economy... lots of manipulation, bad decisions... few good rules added to CSE,compare to 2005 to 2015 very little reduced gov cost, haven't any good investments)
4)in 2019/Dec to now (65% of decisions good 35% not good)

This is what i seen as vary small investor...  Smile
 

Yes... Good time is coming for RCL also my hope Very Happy
worried about Aluminium, Plantation own by RCL... hope Aluminium will be ok but Plantation not sure..

RCL has very little exposure to Plantations and Aluminium. (Any if anyone knows the % ???) Mainly it has Ceramics and LB finance. 

So there is no fear about RCL future. They made good profits even during hardest times..They pay average level of Dividends, thus their NAV has been accumulated to bear any shocks..

I believe RCL is the best share in the CES..

171ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:59 pm

Teller

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In near Recently , they want to find 3.5 billion plus another 2 billion . So dont expect dividends but i believe Lfin can help them. I know how but dont ask me how?


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Teller said is said..

172ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:20 pm

Ekanayake90

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Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Excellent Performance 👏
EPS 3M - 9.08
EPS 9M - 17.41
NAV = 220.95

173ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:23 pm

Ekanayake90

Ekanayake90
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Unfortunately SP might not appreciate in this dull market 👎

MarketResearch

MarketResearch
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Royal Ceramic Interim Financial Report impressive!!!

https://cdn.cse.lk/cmt/upload_report_file/683_1581416294983.12.2019.pdf

What a good share! But still undervalued. For real investors one of good shares to keep and gain in long term.

175ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:55 pm

NANDANA2012


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
As predicted, even better results for the 3Q. If they make Rs. 9 EPS during this hard time, also with some loss making units ( hopl, Aluf) then future EPS could be fabulous...I RECKON THIS IS THE BEST SHARE IN THE CSE (FOR THE CURRENT PRICE). Any other SHARE BETTER ??? Tomorrow market could be stable and run with RCL....SINS...

176ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:52 pm

NANDANA2012


Manager - Equity Analytics
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Not impressive - Infact magnificent.

177ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:56 pm

KavinduTM

KavinduTM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Tiles are doing well Smile

178ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:51 am

Teller

Teller
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Little progress in the cashflow, till they find additional 2.7 billion cash, there is no future with this company. In such case DP has to declare a sufficient dividend from LFIN. in simply RCL journey will decide by LFIN. I know what ධම්මික is thinking now?


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Teller said is said..

179ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:56 am

ColomboCSE


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Teller wrote:Little progress in the cashflow, till they find additional 2.7 billion cash, there is no future with this company. In such case DP has to declare a sufficient dividend from LFIN.  in simply RCL journey will decide by LFIN. I know what ධම්මික is thinking now?

I respect most of your comments... BUT not for RCL
They make good progress in the cashflow... I hope Mr. Dhammila Perera  know how to play this...

180ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:57 am

KavinduTM

KavinduTM
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
RCL, TILE, LWL will run together.

181ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:36 pm

Eng Krishantha

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@Teller wrote:Little progress in the cashflow, till they find additional 2.7 billion cash, there is no future with this company. In such case DP has to declare a sufficient dividend from LFIN.  in simply RCL journey will decide by LFIN. I know what ධම්මික is thinking now?

"I know what ධම්මික is thinking now?"
මේවගේ පොර talk ඇහුණාම හිනාවෙන්න තේරෙන්නේ නැ ඕයි.  Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing I know what ධම්මික is thinking now?

182ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) - Page 9 Empty Re: ROYAL CERAMICS PLC (RCL.N0000) on Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:04 pm

MarketResearch

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@Eng Krishantha wrote:
@Teller wrote:Little progress in the cashflow, till they find additional 2.7 billion cash, there is no future with this company. In such case DP has to declare a sufficient dividend from LFIN.  in simply RCL journey will decide by LFIN. I know what ධම්මික is thinking now?

"I know what ධම්මික is thinking now?"
මේවගේ පොර talk ඇහුණාම හිනාවෙන්න තේරෙන්නේ නැ ඕයි.  Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing I know what ධම්මික is thinking now?
I know what ධම්මික is thinking now? මොහුගේ  පෝස්ට් දකිද්දි "පොරෝනා" වගේ රෝගයකින් පෙලෙන බවක් පේන්නේ නැද්ද ...... Razz Razz Razz Razz

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Eng Krishantha

Eng Krishantha
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@MarketResearch wrote:
@Eng Krishantha wrote:
@Teller wrote:Little progress in the cashflow, till they find additional 2.7 billion cash, there is no future with this company. In such case DP has to declare a sufficient dividend from LFIN.  in simply RCL journey will decide by LFIN. I know what ධම්මික is thinking now?

"I know what ධම්මික is thinking now?"
මේවගේ පොර talk ඇහුණාම හිනාවෙන්න තේරෙන්නේ නැ ඕයි.  Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing I know what ධම්මික is thinking now?
I know what ධම්මික is thinking now? මොහුගේ  පෝස්ට් දකිද්දි "පොරෝනා" වගේ රෝගයකින් පෙලෙන බවක් පේන්නේ නැද්ද ...... Razz Razz Razz Razz
ඕක චීනේට හැදෙන්න ගොඩක් කලින් හැදුන එකක් මගේ හිතේ, ඕක බෝවෙච්ච කීප දෙනෙකුත් ඉන්නවා  Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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MarketResearch

MarketResearch
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Eng Krishantha wrote:
@MarketResearch wrote:
@Eng Krishantha wrote:
@Teller wrote:Little progress in the cashflow, till they find additional 2.7 billion cash, there is no future with this company. In such case DP has to declare a sufficient dividend from LFIN.  in simply RCL journey will decide by LFIN. I know what ධම්මික is thinking now?

"I know what ධම්මික is thinking now?"
මේවගේ පොර talk ඇහුණාම හිනාවෙන්න තේරෙන්නේ නැ ඕයි.  Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing I know what ධම්මික is thinking now?
I know what ධම්මික is thinking now? මොහුගේ  පෝස්ට් දකිද්දි "පොරෝනා" වගේ රෝගයකින් පෙලෙන බවක් පේන්නේ නැද්ද ...... Razz Razz Razz Razz
ඕක චීනේට හැදෙන්න ගොඩක් කලින් හැදුන එකක් මගේ හිතේ, ඕක බෝවෙච්ච කීප දෙනෙකුත් ඉන්නවා  Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
කොර+ උන= කොරෝනා

මේක ඇවිල්ලා පොර+ උන= පොරෝනා......හහහ්හහහහා Razz Razz Razz

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Kipling


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