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It is time to change our attitudes

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1It is time to change our attitudes Empty It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:10 pm

opfdo

opfdo
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
A T T I T U D E
1+20+20+9+20+21+4+5 = 100

i think we all are rely on rumors & information not about fundamentals & rechnical analysis. we used to it one year ago. but our attitudes have been changed by idiots@ sec.No they r playing with us. we all are waiting for thier positive info. to me it is time to chage our attitude. our companies are performing well, aren't they ?. Financial sector eranings are seems good. dividends are paying. other environmental factors are getting better for businesses. most of the fundamentals are undervalued. but we are chasing info & rumors. lets imagine, if the sec will not release the T+5 what will happen. dark red period of weeks will cover us, unless we change our attitudes.Arrow

my question is r they realy regulators ??? if they are, our market will not be a casino table. but they are serving the market with different kind of spoons, not considering the investors.

we should be wise & with positive attitudes to change this bad experiances. learn it, change our attitudes & go for it.Smile



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2It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:16 pm

sapumal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Now days SEC do more affect than the fundamentals do. They play with demand and supply big manner.

3It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:16 pm

Aamiable


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Look like…. It is difficult to change the government attitude towards credit…

4It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:27 pm

ADP

ADP
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
osmand wrote:


i think we all are rely on rumors & information not about fundamentals & rechnical analysis. we used to it one year ago. but our attitudes have been changed by idiots@ sec.No they r playing with us. we all are for + info. to me it is time to chage our attitude. our companies are poforming well, aren't they ?. Financial sector eranings are seems good. dividends are paying. other environmental factors are getting better for businesses. most of the fudamentals are undervalued. but we are chasing info & rumors. lets imagine, if the sec will not release the T+5 what will happen. dark red period of weeks will cover us, unless we change our attitudes.

Totally agree with you view above. I’m sick of being let down thrown up and down and watch what I built-up gradually being eaten away by trying to follow these hot tips. But I cant blame anyone else but my self, because if not for greed thing’s would have been much more different.

No matter what the out come of the regulators I have decide to move on to under valued fundamentally strong stocks. A slow and steady climb is better than gambling at the CSE.

5It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:32 pm

sajeethk


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
SEC making profit out of like SEC and CDS charges but end of the taking revenge from that poor investors. What they do opening branches across the country without protection investors.

6It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:33 pm

Deva


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Osmand, it's true what you say.
But my question is, why do we pay fees to SEC from each of our transactions, if they are not capable of doing their job?

7It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:39 pm

opfdo

opfdo
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Deva wrote:Osmand, it's true what you say.
But my question is, why do we pay fees to SEC from each of our transactions, if they are not capable of doing their job?



agreed. no need to pay even a cents.they should pay for us to the damage ther are doing to the mkt.



anyone knows thier qualifications. we know about sugathadasa, she haven't anything regarding this field, how about Mr. M?????????

8It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:40 pm

prabashk


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Even though the SEC remove or relax the regulation, market wouldn’t be Bull Run with the current situation of Sri Lanka as well as the Global crisis.

Foreign investors withdraw their investment day by day and no more new funds to CSE.

Without new funds there will not be green.

9It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:48 pm

opfdo

opfdo
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@prabashk wrote:Even though the SEC remove or relax the regulation, market wouldn’t be Bull Run with the current situation of Sri Lanka as well as the Global crisis.

Foreign investors withdraw their investment day by day and no more new funds to CSE.

Without new funds there will not be green.



friend, did you ever think why the foreigners moving away???. they are not like us. they are not following spaculations. (there are may be some). they are loving with fundamentals.eg - banking sector, JKH, ............



what has happen to the fundametals? not moving because of the created senario by sec. so they are moving. not because of the other reason. if our market doing well, we can attract more foreigners from the other markets because of global crisis.

10It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:21 pm

raa


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Don't blame the SEC. Yes they may be inefficient, ineffective and not doing their jobs to the best of their ability BUT... they didn't ask us to chase speculative stocks...

The SEC isn't there to make us rich...

The SEC isn't there to tell us which stocks to buy and not to buy...

The SEC isn't there to tell us what rumors are real and not real...

I blame brokers. They don't educate the investor, they don't protect the investors in the market, they misdirect and misinform.

11It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:30 pm

opfdo

opfdo
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@raa wrote:Don't blame the SEC. Yes they may be inefficient, ineffective and not doing their jobs to the best of their ability BUT... they didn't ask us to chase speculative stocks...

The SEC isn't there to make us rich...

The SEC isn't there to tell us which stocks to buy and not to buy...

The SEC isn't there to tell us what rumors are real and not real...

I blame brokers. They don't educate the investor, they don't protect the investors in the market, they misdirect and misinform.



why to brokers????? they can not sell or buy without having permission from the investor. if they do so any one can complain that to the SEC. i know they are doing it. but no action to them by sec.

12It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:02 pm

arrowms


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@raa wrote:Don't blame the SEC. Yes they may be inefficient, ineffective and not doing their jobs to the best of their ability BUT... they didn't ask us to chase speculative stocks...

The SEC isn't there to make us rich...

The SEC isn't there to tell us which stocks to buy and not to buy...

The SEC isn't there to tell us what rumors are real and not real...

I blame brokers. They don't educate the investor, they don't protect the investors in the market, they misdirect and misinform.
@ raa
The SEC don't do their duty.
But earn from our transactions
In that case public , share holder , etc must react



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13It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:17 pm

Ransiri Silva

Ransiri Silva
Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
@raa wrote:Don't blame the SEC. Yes they may be inefficient, ineffective and not doing their jobs to the best of their ability BUT... they didn't ask us to chase speculative stocks...

The SEC isn't there to make us rich...

The SEC isn't there to tell us which stocks to buy and not to buy...

The SEC isn't there to tell us what rumors are real and not real...

I blame brokers. They don't educate the investor, they don't protect the investors in the market, they misdirect and misinform.


Of course we have our own risk in investing money in the market, but we should not forget that the SEC is there to monitor the smooth function of the market, by ways of stopping violations and manipulations, and giving the investors confidence to continue. If the investors loose their confidence and turn to other (legal) means to make money and the market is ruined day by day, what is the purpose of having a SEC? Investors take risk after evaluating kind of measurable facts and figures, we can't predict the impact of manipulations and violations. Being captured in and hammered by the intended manipulations of few few people don't mean taking a risk.

14It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:20 pm

invest-abc


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@raa wrote:Don't blame the SEC. Yes they may be inefficient, ineffective and not doing their jobs to the best of their ability BUT... they didn't ask us to chase speculative stocks...

The SEC isn't there to make us rich...

The SEC isn't there to tell us which stocks to buy and not to buy...

The SEC isn't there to tell us what rumors are real and not real...

I blame brokers. They don't educate the investor, they don't protect the investors in the market, they misdirect and misinform.

I think more than SEC being inefficient, ineffective..the problem is their inconsistency..just look how many times they played around with this broker credit issue..the deadlines to clear credit was delayed by two times on the request of Brokers. So ppl know that SEC could change their mind any time if Brokers request..if they were firm on their decisions previously this would never happen..

15It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:05 pm

windi5

windi5
Moderator
Moderator
Does any one know how much credits remaining there to clear. it should be 25%. isnt it?

16It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:01 pm

manula


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@prabashk wrote:Even though the SEC remove or relax the regulation, market wouldn’t be Bull Run with the current situation of Sri Lanka as well as the Global crisis.

Foreign investors withdraw their investment day by day and no more new funds to CSE.

Without new funds there will not be green.


If they remove the credit clearance T+5... investors have funds and market will be green. As seen in the previous post from the investor portfolio they can give the credit at least 20% with interest so on... it is good.

for the big investors they don't have any problem, lot of money, easy loans etc.. so nothing to worry... Very Happy

17It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:35 pm

Aamiable


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Ransiri Silva wrote:
@raa wrote:Don't blame the SEC. Yes they may be inefficient, ineffective and not doing their jobs to the best of their ability BUT... they didn't ask us to chase speculative stocks...

The SEC isn't there to make us rich...

The SEC isn't there to tell us which stocks to buy and not to buy...

The SEC isn't there to tell us what rumors are real and not real...

I blame brokers. They don't educate the investor, they don't protect the investors in the market, they misdirect and misinform.


Of course we have our own risk in investing money in the market, but we should not forget that the SEC is there to monitor the smooth function of the market, by ways of stopping violations and manipulations, and giving the investors confidence to continue. If the investors loose their confidence and turn to other (legal) means to make money and the market is ruined day by day, what is the purpose of having a SEC? Investors take risk after evaluating kind of measurable facts and figures, we can't predict the impact of manipulations and violations. Being captured in and hammered by the intended manipulations of few few people don't mean taking a risk.



Investors also cannot expect miracles ……credit based growth is not real, inevitably market becomes red after few days if all are buying on credit….. “Aandi hath denage kanda haliya wage”…. then..there is a natural selection….. Stocks not dependent on credit tend to slowly appreciate...real investors follow those high cap stocks which attract real funds... as there are no gains in other stocks…who is going to loose initial investment also by joining a run or a rally which is going to collapse due to credit after few days and burn the fingers ..… Exclamation Exclamation

18It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:50 pm

Academic


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Aamiable wrote:
@Ransiri Silva wrote:
@raa wrote:Don't blame the SEC. Yes they may be inefficient, ineffective and not doing their jobs to the best of their ability BUT... they didn't ask us to chase speculative stocks...

The SEC isn't there to make us rich...

The SEC isn't there to tell us which stocks to buy and not to buy...

The SEC isn't there to tell us what rumors are real and not real...

I blame brokers. They don't educate the investor, they don't protect the investors in the market, they misdirect and misinform.


Of course we have our own risk in investing money in the market, but we should not forget that the SEC is there to monitor the smooth function of the market, by ways of stopping violations and manipulations, and giving the investors confidence to continue. If the investors loose their confidence and turn to other (legal) means to make money and the market is ruined day by day, what is the purpose of having a SEC? Investors take risk after evaluating kind of measurable facts and figures, we can't predict the impact of manipulations and violations. Being captured in and hammered by the intended manipulations of few few people don't mean taking a risk.



Investors also cannot expect miracles ……credit based growth is not real, inevitably market becomes red after few days if all are buying on credit….. “Aandi hath denage kanda haliya wage”…. then..there is a natural selection….. Stocks not dependent on credit tend to slowly appreciate...real investors follow those high cap stocks which attract real funds... as there are no gains in other stocks…who is going to loose initial investment also by joining a run or a rally which is going to collapse due to credit after few days and burn the fingers ..… Exclamation Exclamation

This is the very truth those who are crying for credit have to realize. Fundamentals come first!

19It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:16 pm

ipoguru


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
fear and greed of people runs the market..how hard we try we cannot overcome those feelings

20It is time to change our attitudes Empty Re: It is time to change our attitudes on Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:50 pm

UKboy

UKboy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
osmand wrote:
@prabashk wrote:Even though the SEC remove or relax the regulation, market wouldn’t be Bull Run with the current situation of Sri Lanka as well as the Global crisis.

Foreign investors withdraw their investment day by day and no more new funds to CSE.

Without new funds there will not be green.
friend, did you ever think why the foreigners moving away???. they are not like us. they are not following spaculations. (there are may be some). they are loving with fundamentals.eg - banking sector, JKH, ............

what has happen to the fundametals? not moving because of the created senario by sec. so they are moving. not because of the other reason. if our market doing well, we can attract more foreigners from the other markets because of global crisis.

Osmand,
I cannt agree with you. Most of these foreign funds invested at CSE prior to Jan 2010. So they managed to buy all these fundamentally sound shares for dirt cheap. They are leaving CSE not mainly because of fundamentally sound shares not going up but as a result of a simple business strategy. You need to understand its not because of someone's fault. Most of these foreign funds made more than enough money from CSE. So they should have every right in the book to withdraw money from CSE.

Since you mentioned JKH let me give you an example.

If you check the top 20 shareholders in JKH you can see that since the beginning of this year
"The Emerging Market South Asian fund" is no longer there.
This fund entered into JKH prior to March 2008 and

31.03.2008 they had 9.2M (7.2M before the subdivision of shares)
31.03.3009 they had 26.8M (20.1M before the subdivision of shares)
30.09.2009 they had 31.0M (peaked)
31.03.2010 they had 26.1M
31.12.2010 they only had 6.9M shares.

This shows that they gradually disposed their JKH shares at the right time. Raj Rajaratnam also disposed his shares at the right time. Both disposed JKH shares with hefty gains..

So please tell me what is wrong with any of these transactions?
People blame SEC for every single thing.. Rolling Eyes

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