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261LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty How LOLC works with Q4 Reports on Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:26 pm

MarketResearch


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
There is huge potential for LOLC share and most investors are waiting for Q4 reports to be released soon. Do you think whether USD 432 MN proceeds will be reflected in Q4 reports and how to effect for LOLC share price? Anyway, I collected LOLC considerable amount of shares average price of Rs.113  after the opening of the COVID vacation. This is NOT a buy recommendation and seek your comments.

262LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:06 am

ChooBoy


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Profit is not cash. LOLC overseas sale money will not come to Sri Lanka, only profits will be shown in LOLC books. Dont get carried away with LOLC which is a fake assets of which cash is lies in Singapore under a different company owned by the same directors.

263LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:44 am

Promoney


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Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Both profits and cash generated from the PRASAC sale will be in the group and will be recorded in the consolidated accounts of LOLC Holdings PLC. Geographical location of subsidiaries does not matter, if you own a LOLC Holding PLC share, you own the profits and cash applicable to that share.

Further, you can't siphon out money from a listed company who's accounts are audited by reputed firms and monitored & regulated by the CSE and SEC.

If you are worried about them not paying dividends from that gain, yes, they may or may not.. thats a call you have to make on your investment decision. But no matter whether they keep the sales proceeds as cash, payout as dividends, invest in Sri Lanka or invest in another country, those assets are owned by the shareholders of LOLC Holdings PLC.

So its better to readup on corporate law, accounting standards and corporate structures before misleading new investors.

264LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:48 am

MarketResearch


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Promoney wrote:Both profits and cash generated from the PRASAC sale will be in the group and will be recorded in the consolidated accounts of LOLC Holdings PLC. Geographical location of subsidiaries does not matter, if you own a LOLC Holding PLC share, you own the profits and cash applicable to that share.

Further, you can't siphon out money from a listed company who's accounts are audited by reputed firms and monitored & regulated by the CSE and SEC.

If you are worried about them not paying dividends from that gain, yes, they may or may not.. thats a call you have to make on your investment decision. But no matter whether they keep the sales proceeds as cash, payout as dividends, invest in Sri Lanka or invest in another country, those assets are owned by the shareholders of LOLC Holdings PLC.

So its better to readup on corporate law, accounting standards and corporate structures before misleading new investors.

Appreciated... Very Happy

265LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:45 am

ChooBoy


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@MarketResearch wrote:
@Promoney wrote:Both profits and cash generated from the PRASAC sale will be in the group and will be recorded in the consolidated accounts of LOLC Holdings PLC. Geographical location of subsidiaries does not matter, if you own a LOLC Holding PLC share, you own the profits and cash applicable to that share.

Further, you can't siphon out money from a listed company who's accounts are audited by reputed firms and monitored & regulated by the CSE and SEC.

If you are worried about them not paying dividends from that gain, yes, they may or may not.. thats a call you have to make on your investment decision. But no matter whether they keep the sales proceeds as cash, payout as dividends, invest in Sri Lanka or invest in another country, those assets are owned by the shareholders of LOLC Holdings PLC.

So its better to readup on corporate law, accounting standards and corporate structures before misleading new investors.

Appreciated... Very Happy

Hope you guys remember what happened to Blue Diamonds overseas investments many years ago.

266LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:19 am

deli

deli
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@ChooBoy wrote:
@MarketResearch wrote:
@Promoney wrote:Both profits and cash generated from the PRASAC sale will be in the group and will be recorded in the consolidated accounts of LOLC Holdings PLC. Geographical location of subsidiaries does not matter, if you own a LOLC Holding PLC share, you own the profits and cash applicable to that share.

Further, you can't siphon out money from a listed company who's accounts are audited by reputed firms and monitored & regulated by the CSE and SEC.

If you are worried about them not paying dividends from that gain, yes, they may or may not.. thats a call you have to make on your investment decision. But no matter whether they keep the sales proceeds as cash, payout as dividends, invest in Sri Lanka or invest in another country, those assets are owned by the shareholders of LOLC Holdings PLC.

So its better to readup on corporate law, accounting standards and corporate structures before misleading new investors.

Appreciated... Very Happy

Hope you guys remember what happened to Blue Diamonds overseas investments many years ago.

I remember the overseas transaction of blue diamond. I can assure you, if LOLC targets customers who regularly goto either HSBC or Standard Chartered-- rebrand or something to get there, they will definitely get big funds investing in them.


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267LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:02 am

Promoney


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
If overseas investments are bad, shareholders of multinational like, Tesla, Apple, Microsoft are screwed. Substantial amount of their assets are overseas. LOLC has not only been able to make a huge capital gain from its assets overseas, they have been abke to benefit from the depreciation of the Rupee. The resultant increases in wealth goes to the shareholders of LOLC Holdings PLC, no matter which subsidiary, or the location of the subsidiary the wealth is parked.

268LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:10 pm

Kipling


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Promoney. 
I have read your comments on LOLC. I fully agree. 
You are undoubtedly intelligent, rational & master of your brief. Above all you are wise & sincere. Most rare especially in SL context. I will PM. We can be of mutual benefit.

269LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:31 pm

Promoney


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Thank you Kipling

270LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:16 pm

MarketResearch

MarketResearch
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Kipling wrote:Promoney. 
I have read your comments on LOLC. I fully agree. 
You are undoubtedly intelligent, rational & master of your brief. Above all you are wise & sincere. Most rare especially in SL context. I will PM. We can be of mutual benefit.
 Agree with Kipling...

"Promoney"'s comments are very fair and professional.

Recently I observed several personal fights with each other rather than a professional approach.

We will try to take the forum into the correct track...

271LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:25 pm

Kipling


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
MarketResearch
Thank you. I need to clarify something regards some of my posts. I personally have zero hostility to Tamils, Muslims & Boras. However as a student of history I politically oppose their agenda to destroy our Sinhala Buddhist Civilization. Perhaps I can get my point across with less emotions. I believe GR will secure 151 & create a society that is not held hostage by narrow sectarian agendas.

272LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:28 pm

Nicerider1978


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic

273LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:53 am

Bakka1988


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Reports coming soon 😊👍😊👍👍👍

274LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:16 pm

MarketResearch

MarketResearch
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@Bakka1988 wrote:Reports coming soon 😊👍😊👍👍👍

Great news! Why so late... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

275LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:42 pm

Equityinvestor


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@MarketResearch wrote:
@Bakka1988 wrote:Reports coming soon 😊👍😊👍👍👍

Great news! Why so late... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Sale to be recorded in the income statement?

276LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:50 pm

sheildskye

sheildskye
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Promoney wrote:If overseas investments are bad, shareholders of multinational like, Tesla, Apple, Microsoft are screwed. Substantial amount of their assets are overseas. LOLC has not only been able to make a huge capital gain from its assets overseas, they have been abke to benefit from the depreciation of the Rupee. The resultant increases in wealth goes to the shareholders of LOLC Holdings PLC, no matter which subsidiary, or the location of the subsidiary the wealth is parked.

In business school, one innocent question posed by me was am I able to hop in Asiri hospital ambulance if I held their shares?
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Razz
That was shot out by a rigid "NO".

Management has to be discreet about the company cashflows-- doesn't mean you can walk in get cash from cashier as shareholder of a publicly quoted company-- unless you are the founder/CEO/MD or executive director.

277LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:02 pm

Bakka1988


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
LOLc some time will give the first devident in the history

278LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:07 pm

Promoney


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Trading patterns show LOLC is being artificially kept low. Few buyers may be wanting to collect large quantities before reports/elections

Kipling likes this post

279LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:44 am

Bakka1988


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
@Promoney wrote:Trading patterns show LOLC is being artificially kept low. Few buyers may be wanting to collect large quantities before reports/elections
Very correct 👍👍👍👍

280LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:01 am

Promoney


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Scree128

281LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:25 pm

Bakka1988


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Waiting for run towards 200. Case per share deal is Rs 241  .  Share price Rs 300 even possible

282LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:47 pm

Promoney


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Scree130

283LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:50 pm

dayandacool


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@Bakka1988 wrote:Waiting for run towards 200. Case per share deal is Rs 241  .  Share price Rs 300 even possible
 
What sort of a time frame are we talking here? higher volumes traded in LOLC makes it very interesting.

284LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:27 pm

Bakka1988


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
What a wonderful finished. 1.5 million within few seconds . Tomorrow will move over 140 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😁😁😁

285LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) - Page 14 Empty Re: LOLC HOLDINGS PLC (LOLC.N0000) on Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:25 pm

dayandacool


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