හලාල් ඉවත් කරයි.

එල එල. මෙකෙන් කොම්පැනිවල වියදම ගොඩක් අඩු වෙනවා. ලාභය වැඩි වෙනවා. PE අඩු වෙනවා. විදෙශිය ආයොජිකයින් එනවා. කොටස් වෙලද පොල ඉහල යනවා

Do they pay 150K for every single product or for the company only?

smallville wrote:Do they pay 150K for every single product or for the company only?

Maximum 25,000 from multinational co.

I will send it by detail 2moro, co buzy with work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9yAJj5gSF68

Who needs Halal?

By Hejaaz Hizbullah
(Groundviews.org): When the big international fast food chains came to Sri Lanka they did not have Halal certification. However, subsequently most of these chains went ‘Halal’. This had nothing to do with any ‘Islamist’ conspiracy to take-over Sri Lanka. It was a pure case of demand and supply and the pursuit of profit.




The same applies to Islamic banking. There is nothing surprising about almost every player in the financial services market providing Islamic banking as bankers want to make money in as many ways as they can. So this whole brouhaha about ‘Halal’ really defies logic. The only reason why the All Ceylon Jamiyathul Ulema [ACJU] is a body of choice is that it’s the only body that the Muslim consumers accept and find legitimate and in marketing – consumer is king.
Therefore ‘Who needs ‘Halal’ certification? It’s certainly not the Muslim consumer but the businesses that crave for Halal recognition. I say this because there was a time before Halal certification. Even then there were brands that had established consumer goodwill and trust to the effect that their products were ‘Halal’. So take away the ACJU Halal certification and market forces will come into play and either some other body will issue the license or producers themselves will find ways to build consumer confidence.
In fact all what the ACJU has done is made it easy for anybody to access the Muslim market for their goods and services. It has particularly helped new players to enter the market. To those thinking only in religious terms, ‘new’ translates often to ‘non-Muslim’ as Muslim businesses find it easier to establish consumer goodwill even without certification.
So as a Muslim consumer, the future of Halal certification does not trouble me. The forces of economics and the fight for market share will ensure that products that meet Halal requirements will continue to be available.
However what does worry many Muslims is how this ‘non-issue’ is being banged about by a fringe few and made into a national problem.
What we see is not an ‘issue’ but an agenda and a campaign of hate with ‘Halal certification’ merely an excuse. They are waiting to pick a fight and so they pick on anything. This is evident in many ways. Firstly despite all the shouting and the screaming we are yet to hear a clear and cogent articulation of the grounds for protest. If there were good reasons then we would have heard it by now.
Secondly the methodology to put forward their purported grievance is angry protests which are inflammatory and provocative? It is in this methodology that one sees some serious danger signs. If this was a genuine issue then what we would have had is an informed debate and dialogue, not a protest with a pig head on display.
Thirdly there is also a complete disregard for the truth, facts and honesty. For example at one press conference it was stated that the money collected was being used to fund Al-Qaeda. If this was a genuine allegation then what was needed was not a press conference but a police complaint. Much like the Law College entrance paper being leaked – a lot of noise – little hard evidence. Then they said that the money was being used to buy lands. Evidence? That products will be cheaper without Halal certification fees. Once again – where is the evidence? In fact what we see is that the ACJU can hardly pay for its own certification costs with the fee collected.
The level of misinformation is comically evident in that some are demanding that they be entitled to consume ‘non-Halal’ products – products that are unfit for consumption by Muslims. It is comical for if food is to be ‘non-Halal’ it would certainly have meat or alcohol and that is something that even the Buddhists who are making the demand would not be permitted to consume.
Without doubt the ‘Halal issue’ is part of a deliberate strategy of creating inter-communal tensions and scarily, an open clash – with obviously the Muslims as the victims. Small pockets of tension and violence are being reported and one waits to see how the government and authorities will respond to this and how far they will allow this to go on. In fact a particular rabble-rouser stated that it was inevitable that we as a society will reverse ourselves by around a hundred years with an open anti-Muslim riot as that happened in 1915. Any of this would certainly not be in the best interests of the Sinhala Buddhists.

http://www.ft.lk/2013/02/18/who-needs-halal/

Hanoi

The muslims can easily communicate with word of mouth about which products are halal or not. with the certification this issue became a convenience to all muslims. we must not forget there was time, some non muslim establishments misused this HALAL logo.

If and only the SLGOVT says to stop issuing then ACJU should refrain otherwise they can proceed as usual..Already some powerful ministers have told ACJU to continue the issuance without fear.

The issue will be for the exporters (mostly non muslim) who seek to tap ME markets, how can they market their products without such added halal certification.

70% of expats in ME are sinhalese then are we going to tell them to come to srilanka because what they earn are halal money.

With islamic banking muslim businesses are now investing through sharia comliant instruments,which should be encouraged.As this is good for the economy overall.

BoC/COMB/LOLC/PLC and LB are having islamic finance products.We need to rationally think why these giants stepping to islamic finance sector.do they want the muslims in this country invest in some 100% foreign banks who are operating in our soil or are we srilankan banks and financial institutions going to tap this niche market before its too late.

there is a very good article today by Dr Dayan Jayathilake about ethno-religious fascism.....on daily mirror

TAH

Halal certification is a religious requirement, but extreme implementation of that requirement is not acceptable...
- Charging extra ordinary value for the certification
- due to this charge.. everybody has to pay the price for Halal tag
- Unnecessary production line included for the certification. e.g. Tooth brush
- not in line with other countries like India, Japan

So, the government has to regulate or intervene to stop this extreme tendency. Otherwise, some group may call halal boycott. Every economic theory will go vanish then...
So.. we must implement a fair halal process for everybody that must not burden for other communities.

Halal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Halal (Arabic: حلال‎ ḥalāl, "permissible") is a term designating any object or an action which is permissible to use or engage in, according to Islamic law. The term is used to designate food seen as permissible according to Islamic law. The opposite of this word is haraam.

Halal foods are foods that Muslims are allowed to eat under Islamic dietary guidelines. The criteria specify both what foods are allowed, and how the food must be prepared. The foods addressed are mostly types of meat/animal tissue.




[edit] Meaning of halal

"Halal" is an Arabic word meaning "lawful" or "permissible", and the term not only covers food and drink, but also to all matters of daily life. When it comes to halal food, most people think of meat foods only. However, Muslims must ensure that all foods, particularly processed foods, pharmaceuticals, and non-food items like cosmetics, are also halal. Frequently, these products contain animal by-products or other ingredients that are not permissible for Muslims to eat or use on their bodies.

[edit] Explicitly forbidden

A variety of substances are considered as harmful (haraam) for humans to consume and, therefore, forbidden as per various Quranic verses:
Pork[Quran 2]
Blood[Quran 2]
Animals slaughtered in the name of anyone but God. All that has been dedicated or offered in sacrifice to an idolatrous altar or saint or a person considered to be "divine"[Quran 2] [Quran 5]
Carrion (carcasses of dead animals)[Quran 2]
An animal that has been strangled, beaten (to death), killed by a fall, gored (to death), savaged by a beast of prey (unless finished off by a human)[Quran 5]
Food over which God's name is not pronounced (or at least not in a name other than God)[Quran 6]
Alcohol[Quran 5]
These verses also have information regarding Halal foods: 2:173, 5:5, and 6:118-119, 121.

[edit] Meat from Christians and Jews

Main article: Islamic and Jewish dietary laws compared

In Surah 5:5 of the Quran, it is written: "The food of the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] is lawful for you as your food is lawful for them."

An overwhelming majority of scholars from the Muslim world agree[citation needed] that this verse speaks about the Christians of Muhammad's time and say that Christian methods of slaughtering and consumption has drastically changed over time as the diet played lesser importance in the daily practice of Christians. They also point to Deuteronomy chapter 14 verse 8 in the Bible which says that "Thou shall not eat of the swine nor shall you touch its dead carcasses." Matthew 15:11, though, notes, "What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.” Pork and pork related products, which are forbidden in Islam, are consumed by Christians and used widely in food and food products. Kosher meats, which are consumed by Jews, are permissible if no Halal meat is available. This is due to the similarity between both methods of slaughtering and the similar principles of Kosher meat which are still observed by the orthodox Jews today.[1][2]

[edit] Exception if no Halal is available

If there is no other food available, then a Muslim is allowed to eat non-halal food.[3] Surah 2:173 states:


If one is forced because there is no other choice, neither craving nor transgressing, there is no sin on him.


"This day (all) the good things are allowed to you; and the food of those who have been given the Book is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them; and the chaste from among the believing women and the chaste from among those who have been given the Book before you (are lawful for you); when you have given them their dowries, taking (them) in marriage, not fornicating nor taking them for paramours in secret; and whoever denies faith, his work indeed is of no account, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers."

— Quran, Sura 5 (Al-Maidah), ayat 5[4]

[edit] In non-Islamic countries





A halal meat store sign in Hankou, China, ca. 1934-1935. China historically has had a sizable Hui Muslim population.




Halal certificate issued for dairy products by a German registered merchant




Australian halal certificate for chocolate.
Rules concerning halal food are relatively difficult to adhere to in non-Muslim countries:
The abundance of pork and non-dhabiḥa meats (that is, from animals that are not slaughtered by the prescribed method) at restaurants presents a rather difficult problem to overcome. While a Muslim will not order a non-halal dish, there is a concern about cross-contamination. This is likely to occur when the dhabiḥa halal dish is prepared with the same cooking tools and in the same kitchen as other non-dhabiḥa halal dishes. Food particles and juices from the two dishes are likely to be exchanged, technically rendering the dhabiḥa halal dish as haraam.
Many apparently meat-free dishes, and even some desserts, contain pork, such as most kinds of gelatin, or other non-conforming substances. There is some disagreement about food additives such as monosodium glutamate (MSG) that may use enzymes derived from pig fat in the production process. It is difficult to avoid such additives when eating out since they are usually not listed on restaurant menus. Some Muslim organizations compile tables of such additives.[5]
Alcoholic beverages, including wine and whiskey, are used in many sauces and cakes, and alcohol is used as an ingredient (a solvent and a preservative) for the production and storage of food flavorings such as vanilla and other extracts.[citation needed]

[edit] Efforts to increase the availability of halal food in non-Islamic countries

Since the turn of the 21st century, there have been efforts to create organizations such as the Muslim Consumer Group that certify food products as halal for Muslim consumers.[6]

Since 1991, some mainstream manufacturers of soups, grains, cosmetics, pharmaceuticals, prepared foods, and other products, as well as hotels, restaurants, airlines, hospitals, and other service providers have pursued the halal market. These companies purchase halal-certified products. Halal certification tells Muslims that their ingredients and production methods have been tested and declared permissible by a certification body. It also allows companies to export products to most Middle Eastern countries and South East Asian Countries. The oldest and most well-known halal certifier in the United States is called the "Islamic Services of America". Something that companies which intend to export halal products must keep in mind, when choosing a certifier, is whether or not the certifier is recognized by foreign governmental bodies.[7]
In 1986, the "Islamic Meat & Poultry Company" was founded in Stockton, California. Islamic Meat & Poultry is a halal-only, U.S. Department of Agriculture inspected, hand slaughtering and meat processing facility. This company follows the principles of slaughtering and meat processing according to the Islamic Shariah.[8]
In 2011, Halal Products Certification Institute was established in California and became the first worldwide corporation that certified halal consumer products such as cosmetics, personal care products and perfumes & fragrances. The institute was established by Islamic intellectual scholars and Muslim scientists to assure the dissemination of halal consumer products.

Also in Europe, several organizations have been created over the past 20 years in order to certify halal products. A survey recently published by a French association of Muslim Consumers (ASIDCOM) shows that the market of halal products has been developed in a chaotic way. The certification organizations do not have a common definition of "halal" nor agreed upon control procedures and traceability. The controls implemented by individual agencies are all very different: it can go from an annual audit of the slaughterhouse to checking each production with permanent controls in place.[9]

In South Africa, most chicken products have a halal stamp. The South African National Halal Authority (SANHA) issues certificates and products bearing this logo range from water, snacks, and even meat-free products (which may contain non-halal ingredients). The South African National Halal Authority also licenses the usage of the Halal logo in restaurants where the food is halal in addition to no alcohol or pork products being served.[10]

One of the first halal food companies in the USA is Midamar Corporation, established in 1974 and located in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.[11] It is also one of the first companies in the USA to sell USDA approved and Halal certified US protein products to the Middle East and South East Asia.[12] The certification agency Islamic Services of America (ISA) was established in 2004 and located in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.[13] Islamic Services of America certifications are recognized by some Islamic countries.

Some questions have been raised about the authenticity and practices of ISA and Midamar. An investigative article documents the conflict of interest between ISA and Midamar. At least four members of the Midamar owner's family are on the board of directors of ISA. Midamar's vague differentiation on the slaughtering methods has also generated controversy.[14]

In Dearborn, Michigan, the home of one of the largest Muslim and Arab populations in the United States, some fast food restaurant chains such as the McDonald's Corporation have introduced halal chicken nuggets and chicken sandwiches.[15]

In the United Kingdom, China, Malaysia or Singapore, halal fried chicken restaurants having thousands of outlets serve halal foods, such as the ChicKing Fried Chicken, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Brown's Chicken, and Crown Fried Chicken companies. As of February 2009, Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurants in the U.K. began to sell halal meals in several restaurants.[16]

Also, in New York City there are numerous halal food carts in business which serve gyros, chicken platters, and other halal fast foods, whereas in Europe, there are many of the Muslim-owned Döner kebab shops.[17]

A law passed by a county in Michigan in 2005 bans the sale, distribution, or production of food mislabeled "halal," when county authorities determine that the food does not meet Islamic dietary standards. Similar laws protect kosher foods in most of the United States, and in many other countries, states, or provinces.[18]

McDonald's and Kentucky Fried Chicken have been declared to be halal in Sri Lanka by the Jamiyathul Ulama, the only authority able to give out the certification there.[19]

In 2008 and 2009, twelve stores in the Mary Brown's chain in Ontario and Alberta became 100% halal.[20] Numerous halal meat markets also exist in Southern Ontario and Metro Vancouver.[citation needed]

Popeye's Chicken in Ontario is halal-certified, however, a legal dispute broke out between a group of 14 Muslim franchisees and the chain over the company's decision to use machine slaughtered birds. The 14 Toronto area outlets are instead using hand slaughtered halal birds and are suing the company so that they can continue to do so.[21]

Thailand and Philippines also has a noticeable population of Muslims and Halal-meat shops country-wide.

Within the People's Republic of China, which has a sizable Hui Muslim minority population, halal food is known as "Qingzhen" (Chinese: 清真; pinyin: qīngzhēn; literally "pure truth"). Halal restaurants run by Hui Chinese resemble typical Chinese food, except that they do not serve pork. Dishes specific to Hui Chinese are known as Chinese Islamic cuisine.

[edit] Dhabihah: method of slaughter

Main article: Dhabihah

Ḏabīḥah (ذَبِيْحَة) is the prescribed method of slaughtering all meat sources excluding fish and other sea-life per Islamic law. This method of slaughtering animals consists of using a well sharpened knife to make a swift, deep incision that cuts the front of the throat, the carotid artery, wind pipe and jugular veins. The head of an animal that is slaughtered using halal methods is aligned with the Qiblah. In addition to the direction, permitted animals should be slaughtered upon utterance of the Islamic prayer "in the name of God".

[edit] Animal welfare concerns

Animal rights groups have objected to Halal, saying that it is a form of animal torture.[22] The animal is positioned in order to have its blood completely drained (if size permits) and left to exsanguinate.

The ritual method of slaughter as practiced in Islam and Judaism has been described as inhumane by some animal welfare organizations in the U.K. and the U.S. who have stated that it "causes severe suffering to animals.".[23][24]

In 1978, a study incorporating EEG (electroencephalograph) with electrodes surgically implanted on the skull of 17 sheep and 15 calves, and conducted by Wilhelm Schulze et al. at the University of Veterinary Medicine in Germany concluded that "the slaughter in the form of a ritual cut is, if carried out properly, painless in sheep and calves according to EEG recordings and the missing defensive actions" (of the animals) and that "For sheep, there were in part severe reactions both in bloodletting cut and the pain stimuli" when captive bolt stunning (CBS) was used.[25][26] This study is cited by the German Constitutional Court in its permitting of dhabiha slaughtering.[27] However, recent studies have countered the Schulze study which is dated and relied on older EEG measurement techniques. Dr. Schulze himself also warned in his report that the stunning technique may not have functioned properly.[28]

In 2003, the Farm Animal Welfare Council (FAWC), an independent advisory group, concluded that the way halal and kosher meat is produced causes severe suffering to animals. FAWC argued that cattle required up to two minutes to bleed to death when such means are employed. The Chairperson of FAWC at the time, Judy MacArthur Clark, added, "this is a major incision into the animal and to say that it doesn't suffer is quite ridiculous."

Halal and kosher butchers deny that their method of killing animals is cruel and expressed anger over the FAWC recommendation.[24] Majid Katme of the Muslim Council of Britain also disagreed, stating that "it's a sudden and quick haemorrhage. A quick loss of blood pressure and the brain is instantaneously starved of blood and there is no time to start feeling any pain."[24]

In April 2008, the Food and Farming minister in the UK, Lord Rooker, stated that halal and kosher meat should be labeled when it is put on sale, so that members of the public can decide whether or not they want to buy food from animals that have been bled to death. He was quoted as saying, "I object to the method of slaughter ... my choice as a customer is that I would want to buy meat that has been looked after, and slaughtered in the most humane way possible." The RSPCA supported Lord Rooker's views."[29]

For the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations and the Humane Society International, "the animals that are slaughtered according to kosher and halal should be securely restrained, particularly the head and neck, before cutting the throat" as "movements (during slaughter) results in a poor cut, bad bleeding, slow loss of consciousness, if at all, and pain."[30]

In Europe, the DIALREL project addressed religious slaughter issues by gathering and disseminating information and by encouraging dialogue between the spiritual and scientific communities.[31] Funding for DIALREL was provided by The European Commission, and it began functioning in November 2006. DIALREL produced many fact sheets and ultimately published a final report in 2010, "Report on good and adverse practices - Animal welfare concerns in relation to slaughter practices from the viewpoint of veterinary sciences."

Certain Muslim and Jewish communities expressed frustration with the process of dialogue skewed for non-religious audiences.[32][33][34]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal

very good article..............

Thx
Hanoifortune

If Muslim Community really needs Halal, the ACJU should issue the certificate for free. Why the companies should pay extra money other than Government Tax to a third party like ACJU. This is really a Sakwithi Ranasingha type Day light robbery.Does ACJA audit their accounts and reveal to public ?

In simple language, If I'm going to buy a Vehicle and I want it with some extra feature like Remote Key, DVD etc, then I have to pay the extra price, It Should not divided by cost of all the vehicles sold.But happens is Halal items is like only a minority ask for it and all others pay the price.

We should strongly protest again this Halal Scam, which is a gross violation of countries rules and exploitation of others rights. From last month My family members and most of my friends choose only non-halal products.


This is not against Muslim community, I also have many muslim freinds, This is against exploitation and robbery of our money by non-related parties

Muslim do not need halal tags.But companies want that tag to market their product to Muslims. pls read my last two posts to understand more.ACJU charges between 500/- to 25000/- per year to cover their administrative cost.It is not just issuing a tag,They have to do the regular checking .So there is wages and transport cost. Pls check with any Lab how much they would charge for same job.
But a doctor charges his patients more than that!but you are ok with his charge.
Noted you and your family eat non halal food now.For Muslims rice & vege are halal foods.So pls do not those then.
If you happen to go abroad,pls carry your meals,soap, and etc as you will not be able to find 100% non halal there now.
Muslim will live with out halal tag as they had been living last 1434years.But,Muslim will never change to non halal food as you have changed.pls remember your religion also do not permit to consume meat,drinks,drugs,swine by product and etc.

WildBear wrote:If Muslim Community really needs Halal, the ACJU should issue the certificate for free. Why the companies should pay extra money other than Government Tax to a third party like ACJU. This is really a Sakwithi Ranasingha type Day light robbery.Does ACJA audit their accounts and reveal to public ?

In simple language, If I'm going to buy a Vehicle and I want it with some extra feature like Remote Key, DVD etc, then I have to pay the extra price, It Should not divided by cost of all the vehicles sold.But happens is Halal items is like only a minority ask for it and all others pay the price.

We should strongly protest again this Halal Scam, which is a gross violation of countries rules and exploitation of others rights. From last month My family members and most of my friends choose only non-halal products.


This is not against Muslim community, I also have many muslim freinds, This is against exploitation and robbery of our money by non-related parties

Hanoifortune wrote:Muslim do not need halal tags.But companies want that tag to market their product to Muslims. pls read my last two posts to understand more.ACJU charges between 500/- to 25000/- per year to cover their administrative cost.It is not just issuing a tag,They have to do the regular checking .So there is wages and transport cost. Pls check with any Lab how much they would charge for same job.
But a doctor charges his patients more than that!but you are ok with his charge.
Noted you and your family eat non halal food now.For Muslims rice & vege are halal foods.So pls do not those then.
If you happen to go abroad,pls carry your meals,soap, and etc as you will not be able to find 100% non halal there now.
Muslim will live with out halal tag as they had been living last 1434years.But,Muslim will never change to non halal food as you have changed.pls remember your religion also do not permit to consume meat,drinks,drugs,swine by product and etc.

WildBear wrote:If Muslim Community really needs Halal, the ACJU should issue the certificate for free. Why the companies should pay extra money other than Government Tax to a third party like ACJU. This is really a Sakwithi Ranasingha type Day light robbery.Does ACJA audit their accounts and reveal to public ?

In simple language, If I'm going to buy a Vehicle and I want it with some extra feature like Remote Key, DVD etc, then I have to pay the extra price, It Should not divided by cost of all the vehicles sold.But happens is Halal items is like only a minority ask for it and all others pay the price.

We should strongly protest again this Halal Scam, which is a gross violation of countries rules and exploitation of others rights. From last month My family members and most of my friends choose only non-halal products.


This is not against Muslim community, I also have many muslim freinds, This is against exploitation and robbery of our money by non-related parties

You didn't get my piont, I'm not against Halal, and I have no issue in consuming Halal or Non-Halal , I'm only against taking huge sum of money for the Halal lablel, the amount you mentioned is not correct at all. They charge much much more than that,and they employ their fellows with salary and facilities provided by the particular company to observe the production process, I'm asking how on earth such a 3rd party organization do like that. Should all of us stay silent with our eyes closed.

Doctor's Charge the patient as he delivers a service, we need which without that the patient might die. and The doctor took years of studying to gain that specialist knowledge and skill to give that service. so as an architect or engineer, We pay only when we need their service

In Halal Case 90 % majority dosen't need that service and we do not die without halal food.But even we do not need, we pay for it. So your example is invalid.

My piont is clear- I respect the Islam people's right to consume halal food. but I do not ready to pay extra money when I buy things to an Unofficial, illegal 3rd party-like ACJA or any organization belong to any religion or any person.

WildBear wrote:If Muslim Community really needs Halal, the ACJU should issue the certificate for free. Why the companies should pay extra money other than Government Tax to a third party like ACJU. This is really a Sakwithi Ranasingha type Day light robbery.Does ACJA audit their accounts and reveal to public ?

In simple language, If I'm going to buy a Vehicle and I want it with some extra feature like Remote Key, DVD etc, then I have to pay the extra price, It Should not divided by cost of all the vehicles sold.But happens is Halal items is like only a minority ask for it and all others pay the price.

We should strongly protest again this Halal Scam, which is a gross violation of countries rules and exploitation of others rights. From last month My family members and most of my friends choose only non-halal products.


This is not against Muslim community, I also have many muslim freinds, This is against exploitation and robbery of our money by non-related parties

I agree with you.This Halal Scam programme definitely badly affect the middle class muslim sellers.I do not think they have money to obtain that so called Halal certificate.And if other muslim community strictly follow those Halal guidelines those sellers most definitely loose their customers.
On the other hand what if Hindus ask for certificate for non beef products and some buddhists ask for non alcohol, non meat products.....So it is better to stop this certificate issueing scam programmes.For many years muslims and sinhala buddhist have lived here without much trouble.Now with this extreme scam programme that harmony has been threatened.

Hanoifortune wrote:
Muslim will live with out halal tag as they had been living last 1434years.But,Muslim will never change to non halal food as you have changed.pls remember your religion also do not permit to consume meat,drinks,drugs,swine by product and etc.

Is Halal a quality certification? NO..
Does the organisation that offers this certificate engaged in community service other than funding the money to up lift Muslim community? NO

Then why should non-Muslims pay for this? If Muslims want, why they cant pay something extra and get their hear-consent fulfilled?

Japan was said to be existing without Halal, so the Muslim community in Japan should be starving or making their own meals to survive.

We all know Muslims dont donate blood..
Tell me, is blood Halal?

If a Muslim patient has to undergo pumping blood to his veins, does he request Halal blood?
Or do hospitals treat blood by its category, such as A+,B-,O, etc.. or Halal and Non-halal?

If a Muslim undergoes a surgery or require urgent blood to save his life, its the blood of other nationals he gets.. So if everything is treated as halal, Muslims will have to die in hospitals..

I dont get the point of this..

Hanoifortune wrote:
Muslim will live with out halal tag as they had been living last 1434years.

Best tell them to live without abusing children via child marriage also tell them live without subjugating women and infringing on the rights of other religions and cults.

Is it halal when a cult is created on the tears of a 9 year old child?

smallville wrote:

Hanoifortune wrote:
Muslim will live with out halal tag as they had been living last 1434years.But,Muslim will never change to non halal food as you have changed.pls remember your religion also do not permit to consume meat,drinks,drugs,swine by product and etc.

Is Halal a quality certification? NO..
Does the organisation that offers this certificate engaged in community service other than funding the money to up lift Muslim community? NO

Then why should non-Muslims pay for this? If Muslims want, why they cant pay something extra and get their hear-consent fulfilled?

Japan was said to be existing without Halal, so the Muslim community in Japan should be starving or making their own meals to survive.

We all know Muslims dont donate blood..
Tell me, is blood Halal?

If a Muslim patient has to undergo pumping blood to his veins, does he request Halal blood?
Or do hospitals treat blood by its category, such as A+,B-,O, etc.. or Halal and Non-halal?

If a Muslim undergoes a surgery or require urgent blood to save his life, its the blood of other nationals he gets.. So if everything is treated as halal, Muslims will have to die in hospitals..

I dont get the point of this..

Just have a look ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qgsxyHrOSA&feature=share

Dear fellows,

How can somebody afford to pay 150k per product? its common sense. Come on.

From where did you get the news Indranige nandamma? No news reported this story...

Please dont turn this forum into another BBS facebook wall.

Please see the original video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbJGClB7wN4

Its only in Sri Lanka that you dont get Veg certificate. All the middle eastern countries you get the Veg label. Look for the Green dot on a biscuit/cake pack. It does not even contain egg.
Get the stat correctly or if you want first hand evidence go stand near a butcher shop in a major city in SL and count the peaople purchasing beef. Unfortunately its the buddhists.

I was typing these since somebody raised this issue.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RiPJADF1tW4

@smallville: I have no idea how do you say Muslims don't donate blood? Being a Muslim, I along with my Muslim colleagues proud to say that we have donated blood to our soldiers during the war time.
Anything becomes halal if it can save ones life in a death/life situation.

Regarding the pain:
The swift cutting of vessels of the neck disconnects the flow of blood to the nerve of the brain responsible for pain. Thus the animal does not feel pain. While dying, the animal struggles, writhes, shakes and kicks, not due to pain, but due to the contraction and relaxation of the muscles deficient in blood and due to the flow of blood out of the body.

Campaign against Halal:
It is perfectly alright for non-muslim to protest against issuing halal certificate in an ethical manner without spreading hatred. Challenging the legal system would have been ideal than what happens today. It is not common Muslim who asks for Halal certificate but big businesses. Whether its run by Muslim or a non-muslim. So, who ever wants to stop the Halal certification, tell that to these businesses.
Bottom line: Today, They are using the halal issue to hurt the Muslims economically.
Tomorrow, a group will make the beard as an excuse to loot the Muslim's property and take advantage of the situation.

WildBear wrote:Does ACJA audit their accounts and reveal to public ?

WB, if u don't have full knowledge about something, pls don't discuss till u get full knowledge.

ACJU have external audit & even u can go & check their a/cs. This is mentioned in their media release.

Hereafter, don't post anything without full knowledge regarding that subject:evil:

@ smalvil - I donated 3 times when I was in the uni.

I u want, I can send u da scanned copy of the donation report

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sanju351 wrote:

smallville wrote:

Hanoifortune wrote:
Muslim will live with out halal tag as they had been living last 1434years.But,Muslim will never change to non halal food as you have changed.pls remember your religion also do not permit to consume meat,drinks,drugs,swine by product and etc.

Is Halal a quality certification? NO..
Does the organisation that offers this certificate engaged in community service other than funding the money to up lift Muslim community? NO

Then why should non-Muslims pay for this? If Muslims want, why they cant pay something extra and get their hear-consent fulfilled?

Japan was said to be existing without Halal, so the Muslim community in Japan should be starving or making their own meals to survive.

We all know Muslims dont donate blood..
Tell me, is blood Halal?

If a Muslim patient has to undergo pumping blood to his veins, does he request Halal blood?
Or do hospitals treat blood by its category, such as A+,B-,O, etc.. or Halal and Non-halal?

If a Muslim undergoes a surgery or require urgent blood to save his life, its the blood of other nationals he gets.. So if everything is treated as halal, Muslims will have to die in hospitals..

I dont get the point of this..

Just have a look ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qgsxyHrOSA&feature=share

Every one should watch this full video