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BFL, TAFL, GRAN - seems mega chicken rally soon

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Market.Player

Market.Player
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Look the Chicken shares movement. It seems mega chicken rally soon.
All companies making good profits & can be move any time.
BFL & TAFL have minimum share quantities in Market. Can expect massive rally like early 2011.
Remember in 2011,
BFL hit Rs.525/- (Anualize EPS 30 ARROUND).
TAFL hit Rs.242/- (Anualize EPS 12 ARROUND).

Market.Player

Market.Player
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

see always maximum return gives TAFL. pOSSIBLE rS.90/-

stockmania

stockmania
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Hope BFL will reach 600+ this time. cheers

MerdoxR

MerdoxR
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

what did i say about my millionaire post Very Happy glad i bought bfl@153 gran@50 tafl@60... now enjoying the ride... I guess bfl will hit 450 in this run gran and tafl will hit 250 together.

wsaman

wsaman
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

stockmania wrote:Hope BFL will reach 600+ this time. cheers

Do not u think, 600+ is overvalued at this time?? I mean in short or medium term??

Market.Player

Market.Player
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Short Term (September'2012) Tragets,

BFL - EPS 28 X say PER 8 = Rs.224/- plus
TAFL - EPS 12 X say PER 8 = Rs.96/- plus
GRAN - EPS 15 X say PER 8 = Rs.120/- plus

Party time soon..

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

wsaman wrote:
stockmania wrote:Hope BFL will reach 600+ this time. cheers

Do not u think, 600+ is overvalued at this time?? I mean in short or medium term??

Yes the environment or fundamentals are not set to run as far as the last high. But heard chicken price increase rumor in the forum ( note this is speculative news) .

So this can run more if market remains bullish. Play it safe though. Buying at high will make short term players worried ;-)





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worthiness


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Previous years once BFL starts moving, both TAFL & GRAN were chasing behind BFL. This year it seems those two are slowly moving up.

There could be a faster run.....within this month hopefully...

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

Unless for chicken price hike and cost cutting it will be not easy for TAFL, GRAN to report that high eps. Even BFL which is the strongest in the group , will have to fight to get to EPS 28 ( need to have a super December and March quarter) . Poultry sector is vulnerable to news and cost of production ( maize costs).


But today the interest seemed realtively high. Lets see in the next few days.


Market.Player wrote:Short Term (September'2012) Tragets,

BFL - EPS 28 X say PER 8 = Rs.224/- plus
TAFL - EPS 12 X say PER 8 = Rs.96/- plus
GRAN - EPS 15 X say PER 8 = Rs.120/- plus

Party time soon..

fairbullrun

fairbullrun
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

I remember TAFL is one of share I bought first with the recommendation of my broker @ 100 and due to my impatience I sold it 115 from that day onwards it went up to 242 so since now the Chicken run is on the board I kindly looking more posting on positive aspect of the chicken run from the people oriented members of the forum( specially the senior members of this forum)
Happy season for trading and investing cheers

econ

econ
Global Moderator

chicken run is back... Very Happy

Market.Player

Market.Player
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

In the last financial report of BFL we can see more than 1.5 million shares hold by perpetual capital lead by Arjun. This collected on rs.220 to 400 range. So this time hopes are high. With minimum selling quantities BFL will have a mega rally. Possible this week.

MerdoxR

MerdoxR
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

BFL got their new factory up and running and producing their own maize. So less the maize import cost and will be the sole company to provide maize to Sri Lanka and as well as export if they expand more. So more profits are expected to flow. These days each chicken share movements are just collection total turnover less than 6Million not the bull run. So chicken run with bull run will have turnover per day in 50-100Million for each share alone. Just imagine this price movement just for collection. If it was chicken run? WoW.. Cant wait to see that moment...

Rajitha

Rajitha
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

lol! lol!

It seems again the promoters are back with including some senior promoters! o.O who can forget the good old days of promotion to rip of the cash from new comers! With valuations done on this very own forum by seniors! with over 5-6 timer more EPS than they can have

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t2868-gran-labai-labai
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t3434-grain-elevators-plc-stock-price-has-come-down-from-250-to-148

Fun times towards the later part towards bull run with ASI still over 6.5k!
Fun times indeed I tried to fight the whole forum of promoters!

PS:- All newcomers please go read those 2 links I gave fully before you invest on these shares! You can get an idea of the shares and the promoters in this forum really well!

fairbullrun

fairbullrun
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Thank you Rajitha for your radical and direct forward representation towards the forum dialogue, we can more informative in various dimensions of the share market. really helful
FBR cyclops

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Market.Player wrote:In the last financial report of BFL we can see more than 1.5 million shares hold by perpetual capital lead by Arjun. This collected on rs.220 to 400 range. So this time hopes are high. With minimum selling quantities BFL will have a mega rally. Possible this week.

As my memory serves Perpectual became a long standing holder buying at peak scratch

lol!

ETF holds 4.50%

Also Singa Laxana aka MW is back in business..

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

If you read posts Rajitha mentioned we can get an idea about everybody , their likes, dislikes and their share predictions. Read carefully what people said and based on what facts.

If we really dig into history we will know no one is perfect though some will act such. Nobody has a crystal ball in hand to accurately predict the future exactly.

Some factors can turn negative while other at times it can turn positive making the whole table turn for the sector and sentiments. There are cyclical stock and stock that would be affected by goverment policy. For Poultry , cost of feed and govn policy is a major one. One time govn imposes tax on maize , other times they will relax them and at other times they will control chicken prices. Like I mentioned above ( in this post at the top) poultry sector is vulnerable to news ( including disease, price hikes ) , government actions and cost of production issues. Motor sector and Plantation sector are some others.



Anyway , annualizing 1 quarter Eps is very dangerous and will not give true picture. I also mentioned this already and said my opinion before.

If you are chicken hater let it go and worry about your shares, If you are a chikcen lover, play it carefully as the environment for Chicken companies is not as rosy as when they hit previous highs. So expecting them to hit huge amounts is dangerous. Policies can change for good and bad and there can be rumors of disease which time to time come up in the forum.

Do you own research , read others opinion and make your own decision. It is your money and your headache.




Rajitha wrote: lol! lol!

It seems again the promoters are back with including some senior promoters! o.O who can forget the good old days of promotion to rip of the cash from new comers! With valuations done on this very own forum by seniors! with over 5-6 timer more EPS than they can have

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t2868-gran-labai-labai
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t3434-grain-elevators-plc-stock-price-has-come-down-from-250-to-148

Fun times towards the later part towards bull run with ASI still over 6.5k!
Fun times indeed I tried to fight the whole forum of promoters!

PS:- All newcomers please go read those 2 links I gave fully before you invest on these shares! You can get an idea of the shares and the promoters in this forum really well!

Rajitha

Rajitha
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

slstock wrote:If you read posts Rajitha mentioned we can get an idea about everybody , their likes, dislikes and their share predictions. Read carefully what people said and based on what facts.

If we really dig into history we will know no one is perfect though some will act such. Nobody has a crystal ball in hand to accurately predict the future exactly.

Some factors can turn negative while other at times it can turn positive making the whole table turn for the sector and sentiments. There are cyclical stock and stock that would be affected by goverment policy. For Poultry , cost of feed and govn policy is a major one. One time govn imposes tax on maize , other times they will relax them and at other times they will control chicken prices. Like I mentioned above ( in this post at the top) poultry sector is vulnerable to news ( including disease, price hikes ) , government actions and cost of production issues. Motor sector and Plantation sector are some others.

Anyway , annualizing 1 quarter Eps is very dangerous and will not give true picture. I also mentioned this already and said my opinion before.

If you are chicken hater let it go and worry about your shares, If you are a chikcen lover, play it carefully as the environment for Chicken companies is not as rosy as when they hit previous highs. So expecting them to hit huge amounts is dangerous. Policies can change for good and bad and there can be rumors of disease which time to time come up in the forum.

Do you own research , read others opinion and make your own decision. It is your money and your headache.

Funny thing was those days Non of the respected seniors said anything like that! As far as I can see you also sang a different beat! Can't remember a single person agreeing with me or backing me! BTW this is not only these share threads, there were soo many stuff those days including cashing out from market, why market is going down and many more!

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

Rajitha,

I admired you for certain qualities and was always trying to look at you from the middle path as sometimes you say logical things. I also know that you are rather new to CSE. When lot of people you abused and was rude to , hammered you , I had stood behind you to not say rude and flawed things like you do without proof. Sometime you left the forum angry. Some people insulted you back as you also have no respect for others. Ofcouse if you make baseless comments , expect others to retaliate. You are not God.


I was very patient with you and every time you attacked falsely without any justified proof , I tried convince you politely. We had discussion on the SAME TOPIC many many times. Again and Again every time you returned to the forum. Yet you come back and make false accusations conveniently forgetting the past. You do not want to LET GO and move on with life.

We know you are poultry hater when you want to be ( but you had BFL odd lots when the fancy took you).

Lot of latest new comers don't know you and they might be judging you on recent comments some of which make sense.

But if you do not stop these baseless attacks and let history pass and concentrate on the issues we have at hand now I will also have to retaliate too. You will appreciate I wasted lot of time with you , via discussion on this forum and via PM to decent have a conversation. But it seems not possible as you are a person with ideologies you do not want to change ever.

Just because we commented on a share and sector you hate so much , you do not have a right to come back and drag the same topic and attack. Show me 1 place I promoted this stock. Yo ualso try to drag me into this also as I make some comemtens on GRAN at one time. Did I tell please BUY BUY BUY?
From what I understand if we comment on a share you don;t like that automatically makes us your enemy. Waht is wrong with you?


Do I have to remind you what happened to your favourite shares you commented on. Some traded at Rs 280 then now ar Rs 98. Some at Rs 30 and now Rs 8+. This is the market. Did I hate you for making comments on those shares.

Why this animosity? Understand that market killed lots of shares your favorites as well. Then you left the forum also.


As no one of us had a crystal ball in our hand and we make comments in the forum based on situation at that time and environment. Ofocurse it can go wrong at times. Didn't you make mistakes?

Seriously you have to fix your ego issues and venegence issues. Unless you let it go I will also have to remind you some of your past.

Lets stop this bull*** and move on and concentrate on the present market. Enough is enough.





Rajitha wrote:
slstock wrote:If you read posts Rajitha mentioned we can get an idea about everybody , their likes, dislikes and their share predictions. Read carefully what people said and based on what facts.

If we really dig into history we will know no one is perfect though some will act such. Nobody has a crystal ball in hand to accurately predict the future exactly.

Some factors can turn negative while other at times it can turn positive making the whole table turn for the sector and sentiments. There are cyclical stock and stock that would be affected by goverment policy. For Poultry , cost of feed and govn policy is a major one. One time govn imposes tax on maize , other times they will relax them and at other times they will control chicken prices. Like I mentioned above ( in this post at the top) poultry sector is vulnerable to news ( including disease, price hikes ) , government actions and cost of production issues. Motor sector and Plantation sector are some others.

Anyway , annualizing 1 quarter Eps is very dangerous and will not give true picture. I also mentioned this already and said my opinion before.

If you are chicken hater let it go and worry about your shares, If you are a chikcen lover, play it carefully as the environment for Chicken companies is not as rosy as when they hit previous highs. So expecting them to hit huge amounts is dangerous. Policies can change for good and bad and there can be rumors of disease which time to time come up in the forum.

Do you own research , read others opinion and make your own decision. It is your money and your headache.

Funny thing was those days Non of the respected seniors said anything like that! As far as I can see you also sang a different beat! Can't remember a single person agreeing with me or backing me! BTW this is not only these share threads, there were soo many stuff those days including cashing out from market, why market is going down and many more!

MerdoxR

MerdoxR
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Agreed with slstock... Just ignore the guy... Very Happy I truly value slstock's posts.
Thankx you very much for all your contribution and thank all the other forum admins...

suja


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Hey , I admire all the post why only posts by one person. What Rajitha has said is great though not going good with the rest of us. What Sl stock has said is also true it is us who take the final decision so look at both the positive and negative and move forward.

I am a CTC and a CTEA lover any other close to monopoly products I will look at , but the trend for the past one month is diffrerent and if you dont do trades in this enviorenment you would be foolish

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

We will admire all people who make positive or negative comments on any share but they should respect others and do not make false accusations . Also they have the right to dicuss matters politely. Some should also reliase they have commented and had interest on shares at one time that have also fallen to dust now. No body is God. If they are traders or short term player , who left the market and do not hold, do so . No problem. But do not insult others falsely. trying to show their superiority. Few members here have been with the forum and CSE through thick and thin.

I am speakign out , as there are several people missing who should comment here and I was unreasonably dragged into this because I showed interest on GRAN due to their growth potential at one point. Also this conversation alwasy comes without end. Lately policy issues, feed costs has hampered the industry. But it can change ( as with everythign in life)


BTW, why beat around the bush. Smallville, Econ , Innam and several other were accused on this matter. I hope these people will make comments here.

The real chicken promoters were not in this forum. So chicken haters should go to those places and make accusation without blaming a few retailer who have interest. We try our best to reduce promotions in this forum.

If some can find a post I made to promote a share I challenge them to prove it. If I cannot comment on a share , then all these analysis I make and knoweldge I learn the hard way I share will stop.

Remember who was here at the forum during difficult times and making comments here. Only a handful.







I hope every one here respects other withotu showing they know everything.

suja wrote:Hey , I admire all the post why only posts by one person. What Rajitha has said is great though not going good with the rest of us. What Sl stock has said is also true it is us who take the final decision so look at both the positive and negative and move forward.

I am a CTC and a CTEA lover any other close to monopoly products I will look at , but the trend for the past one month is diffrerent and if you dont do trades in this enviorenment you would be foolish



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smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Rajitha,

Its not anyone's fault that you didnt notice the chicken shares. Ppl who invested in BFL about 2-3 yeas back harvested in 2011 run, so there's nothing wrong with it.. After all its an investment proved to have matured early..
Then there was PCH.. after a huge collocation at 9 it started the run.. So many cashed out.. It had some salient features to become a good company but the management was adamant and didnt see the customer correctly. So we had to forget its an emerging company.

BFL on the other hand was a company with less debt and a solid income stream with various products. Even maize added the benefits to the bottom line. Any company cant have Qtr-Qtr growth, Some times due to disasters, policy changes or in this case a change in eating patterns or buying patterns due to the increase of living cost, all chicken companies may find revenue drops.. Like wise there are temporary setbacks as well as permanent issues. What we should worry about the latter not even the 10-20 drop in revenue qtr-wise.
Every qty will not be like that in chicken we know the Q3 would be a better one historically..
Ok lets forget chicken,.

Hope you could put aside your anger for some shares and contribute the forum genuinely. We all know that u loved plantations. So why cant u talk about those since its very rare that we talk abt those shares now..
Rubber has many ups n downs hence KGAL could be affected but we know KGAL was a gem before the wage hike issue.. Remember u told that its a knee-jerk reaction..
So these are the things that we should talk about...

Humour is always welcome but attacks without facts are not healthy for a forum. Just becuz some one doesn't like your idea or have another opinion u dont become a fool..
Remember few days ago I said SL economy is slowly going up, then u came and brought a good bar chart and indicated we're not that strong in that dept.. Did I try to find any thing to attack u cuz u were not in my pages? No.. It was also part of learning.. Its just one example we might see things in different ways Wink

SLS,

Rajitha is stil learning from his mistakes so its good that we take it not serious..
As both of u are academics and u being a senior one, u might've seen 101 guys in this attitude..

Surprisingly Rajitha wont learn.. And if he's not willing to change the attitudes and contribute we might find its a bad idea to feed him Wink

SL.Market

SL.Market
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

SLS..
Please don't challenge to any body to show you are correct and don't wast ur valuable time this type of argument in such a sunny season we are having...

Enjoy.... This is not the time for hot argument

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

SL.Market wrote:SLS..
Please don't challenge to any body to show you are correct and don't wast ur valuable time this type of argument in such a sunny season we are having...

Enjoy.... This is not the time for hot argument

SL Market,
Bottom line, people should respect others and have proof for accusations if they want to do one.
Hope you remember the hard time you had SL.Market ?

I never said I am correct. But false accusation I will not tolerate just like any one will not.


Small,
I agree. Sometimes it is waste to spend time with people who are not sensitive or receptive to others opinions. But nobody would like a false accusation.


On the topic

I already mentioned what I need to say at this time about the poultry sector. Today these share held their ground from yesterday even during the down turn. Lets see what the future is . Short term players be alert and trade smart. , long term players: identify and study the risks and gains in this sector which I beleiev has potential.

If you are a chicken hater don;t invest. Simple.

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