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Geneva Hurdle in March

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1Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Geneva Hurdle in March Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:51 pm

Leon


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

As many people point out, Geneva meeting in March is crucial for Sr Lanka. If the GOSL is tactful enough and handle the matter diplomatically we will be fine. but if the western countries insist on what they want, things can be serious. As many analysts say, if a special proposal passed against us, economic sanctions are also will follow.If such a thing happens what would be the impact on our capital market??
In such a situation Packer's arrival will be important. Because he is an influential businessman back in Australia and he may have a say for their government. he can't risk US $ 350 million on the project. So GOSL should use whatever the resources they have at the moment. So FDI's are important in that sense. also.
what you all think???

2Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:57 am

NUINTH


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

If we handle this systematically, I do not think this will be a big hurdle for us. But it should be a diplomatically. The government must appoint right person with clear plan. Whole team/nation must work for that. Propaganda campaign regarding LLRC should go around the world through foreign affairs.

I think recent CHOGM was a good event for streathen foreign affairs with other nation & Presently MR holding big position of CHOGM. Most of foreign leaders expressed their plesure regarding a country growth after the war (Except Camoran as he had a different agenda) Other thing some Sri Lankan favourable countries have entitled for voting at Geniva this time.

But problem is, These days the government is busy with internal crisis, coming elections, drugs with grease & PM. Opposition busy with leadership council & Sajith, election etc. They should solve these nonsense quickly.

I guess "Yaka kiyana tharamata kalu wena ekak na" coz now SL doing well "when we compare with some other countries" like Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt etc.

Hope for the best.

3Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:45 am

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Leon wrote:As many people point out, Geneva meeting in March is crucial for Sr Lanka. If the GOSL is tactful enough and handle the matter diplomatically we will be fine. but if the western countries insist on what they want, things can be serious. As  many analysts say, if a  special proposal passed against us, economic sanctions are also will follow.If such a thing happens what would be the impact on our capital market??
In such a situation Packer's arrival will be important. Because he is an influential businessman back in Australia and he may have a say for their government. he can't risk US $ 350 million on the project. So GOSL should use whatever the resources they have at the moment. So FDI's are important in that sense. also.
what you all think???

Packer doesn't have any capacity at Aussie, even his $350mn in peanut for Australian government. May be Dr.M.R might have greater power than packer in Aussie government since boat arrivals have huge impact on the Aussie cabinet. So Tonny wouldn't go wrong with M.R. But British head has some agenda which is not clear to the public yet.

Our government are well aware the result of US sanction. They don't go that extreme. MR is tactic player who swells if he needs. Easy way is they try to punish army commander (Sarath fon) for war crime and make the deal simple, may be few more officials will be punished. This could be the worst. Politics is always dirty and war would always make casualties. No1 can change it...

4Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:26 am

UKboy

UKboy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Jana1 wrote:

Packer doesn't have any capacity at Aussie, even his $350mn in peanut for Australian government. May be Dr.M.R might have greater power than packer in Aussie government since boat arrivals have huge impact on the Aussie cabinet. So Tonny wouldn't go wrong with M.R. But British head has some agenda which is not clear to the public yet.

Our government are well aware the result of US sanction. They don't go that extreme. MR is tactic player who swells if he needs. Easy way is they try to punish army commander (Sarath fon) for war crime and make the deal simple, may be few more officials will be punished. This could be the worst. Politics is always dirty and  war would always make casualties. No1 can change it...

Agree with you Jana.
I was also thinking similar sort of escape route ( if things get worse). Send few top level army officers to prison can be the easiest way to ease the situation for few more years. However the government will have to look after those families until the officers back.

We all should thank for British people whoever cast their votes for conservative party (David Cameron's Party). If labour party in power then things could have been much worse.

In General Sri Lankan who (used to) support LTTE in UK have more power and money than UK Sri lankan community who don't either support ltte or pressurise sl government for war crimes.

Any UK party cannot ignore the voting power of Srilankans live in UK. As a commonwealth country, Srilankans live the UK can cast thier votes in any UK election. They dont have to have PR or UK citizenship for that.

I think sl government should at least try to keep a good relationship with Europe. Even though it wont give any positive impact short/medium term.

5Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:38 pm

Kithsiri

Kithsiri
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

What would be the accountability & the ownership of the Commander in Chief and the guy who ran all those misdeeds behind the scene by passing the Army command structure?
I am sure, whoever is pushing this has already given considerations to this escape route strategy and have taken necessary precautions.

6Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:51 pm

K.Haputantri

K.Haputantri
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Already they have sent Sarath, the main actor, to the prison, but for a different reason, which of course might boomarang on them. I dont think he is guilty of human rights violations. Allged violations if occurred, would have been done by ppl at lower rungs. If there are evidence they can try what is suggested as escape route.

7Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:22 pm

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

May be there is a high possibility the guys who appeared in the video (published by Channel-4) could be punished severely. We also have to remember if American and British interested to jeopardise M.R they would definitely do it in one time. Good example is Gaddafi and Satham.. Gadaffi omitted their command in 1991, he was revenged in 2011. Gadaffi ran out of emotions which killed him. But M.R knows how to escape dramas, I guess..

@ K.Haputantri,

There should be very high officials command at the last stage. If Praba's son was in captive, as shown in channel-4, some wiser brains worked with prudent manner, predicting he could lead future Tamils diaspora, and command lower to clear him. You know how low levels gangs would have exclaimed to inform their bosses when they caught praba's son. I read similar stories in DBS.Jeyaraj articles.

For me war is war. There should be casualties. A part from that murder and rapping cannot be accepted. Govt should simply punish those culprits and develop country together with all minorities, simply forgetting past is wiser decision. Finally Lanka is going to become as playground of those western rich, if this problem will not be handled in a prudent manner.

8Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:33 pm

hariesha


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Leon wrote:As many people point out, Geneva meeting in March is crucial for Sr Lanka. If the GOSL is tactful enough and handle the matter diplomatically we will be fine. but if the western countries insist on what they want, things can be serious. As  many analysts say, if a  special proposal passed against us, economic sanctions are also will follow.If such a thing happens what would be the impact on our capital market??
In such a situation Packer's arrival will be important. Because he is an influential businessman back in Australia and he may have a say for their government. he can't risk US $ 350 million on the project. So GOSL should use whatever the resources they have at the moment. So FDI's are important in that sense. also.
what you all think???

What ever the case there wan't be any economic sanctions. The don't want to depress the victims again. Even in last resolution it was clearly indicated that imposing of any sanctions are out of the way. 

But there would be strong pressure on the political leadership to investigate the crimes. That's all. But we are in a better shape this time. The vote base of Sri Lanka's opponents have been reduced. 

Any how it's good if march provide some buying opportunities.  

Last year there was a huge uproar against Sri Lanka at HR sessions, but there was only a 200 point drop at CSE. As earnings drop in most companies are likely to be get reversed with 3rd quarter 2013/14 (Dec. results),  I rather doubt any opportunity this time. There are many beaten stocks in CSE that can sustain the index.

9Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:42 pm

Leon


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Jana1 wrote:
Leon wrote:As many people point out, Geneva meeting in March is crucial for Sr Lanka. If the GOSL is tactful enough and handle the matter diplomatically we will be fine. but if the western countries insist on what they want, things can be serious. As  many analysts say, if a  special proposal passed against us, economic sanctions are also will follow.If such a thing happens what would be the impact on our capital market??
In such a situation Packer's arrival will be important. Because he is an influential businessman back in Australia and he may have a say for their government. he can't risk US $ 350 million on the project. So GOSL should use whatever the resources they have at the moment. So FDI's are important in that sense. also.
what you all think???

Packer doesn't have any capacity at Aussie, even his $350mn in peanut for Australian government. May be Dr.M.R might have greater power than packer in Aussie government since boat arrivals have huge impact on the Aussie cabinet. So Tonny wouldn't go wrong with M.R. But British head has some agenda which is not clear to the public yet.

Our government are well aware the result of US sanction. They don't go that extreme. MR is tactic player who swells if he needs. Easy way is they try to punish army commander (Sarath fon) for war crime and make the deal simple, may be few more officials will be punished. This could be the worst. Politics is always dirty and  war would always make casualties. No1 can change it...

Jana1, Though USD 350million is peanut don't forget Packer is 6th billionaire in Australia. So he may have some powers behind him which he could use to the utmost. Normally all the governments surrender to the highly influential businessmen no matter east or west.

10Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:48 pm

Leon


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

UKboy wrote:
Jana1 wrote:

Packer doesn't have any capacity at Aussie, even his $350mn in peanut for Australian government. May be Dr.M.R might have greater power than packer in Aussie government since boat arrivals have huge impact on the Aussie cabinet. So Tonny wouldn't go wrong with M.R. But British head has some agenda which is not clear to the public yet.

Our government are well aware the result of US sanction. They don't go that extreme. MR is tactic player who swells if he needs. Easy way is they try to punish army commander (Sarath fon) for war crime and make the deal simple, may be few more officials will be punished. This could be the worst. Politics is always dirty and  war would always make casualties. No1 can change it...

Agree with you Jana.
I was also thinking similar sort of escape route ( if things get worse). Send few top level army officers to prison can be the easiest way to ease the situation for few more years. However the government will have to look after those families until the officers back.

We all should thank for British people whoever cast their votes for conservative party (David Cameron's Party). If labour party in power then things could have been much worse.

In General Sri Lankan who (used to) support LTTE in UK have more power and money than UK Sri lankan community who don't either support ltte or pressurise sl government for war crimes.

Any UK party cannot ignore the voting power of Srilankans live in UK. As a commonwealth country, Srilankans live the UK can cast thier votes in any UK election. They dont have to have PR or UK citizenship for that.

I think sl government should at least try to keep a good relationship with Europe. Even though it wont give any positive impact short/medium term.

I don't think there's any possibility to betray military and make a way out. Because that will definitely erode vote base in the country and opposition may use the situation.

11Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:18 pm

worthiness


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

International politics & pressure concerned, many adverse effects had been gathered due to the actions of inefficient diplomats, state representatives & the domestic eccentric parliamentarians. Though it is much delayed, it is appreciable that government has already realized the shortcomings of policies adapted.
Moderate policies being used currently may smooth the aggressiveness of western countries provided they realize that their aims are going to be achieved except toppling the present regime. However, frequent changes of world political stage will decide the weight of rights issue in next year which may favorable or unfavorable to our country.
Unlike previous occasions, chosen team of experts, representing to save the country will act sensibly with the sustenance of world leaders meeting held recently.

Continuous force by diaspora is a decisive factor on the outcome of the human rights session since many westerners still lean to the strength of the diaspora. Also,
pre-warning of dipping counters of the CSE, as time comes nearby, would be the omen from the sensitive investors.

12Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:02 am

VISA


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Whom to UNHRC is reporting ?
I assume it must be Security Council.
Who authorize Iraq war ?
Still people die in Iraq.

then pls listen to this. Colin powell talk to bloomberg on 20th aug' 2012 about his new book - it work for me. i do not think it work for IRAQ or for the WORLD.

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/colin-powell-discusses-new-book-it-worked-for-me-np~Nt94jS8K7Zt2GA1p7zg.html

do you think there are human rights violations in IRAQ

do you think UNHRC can investigate any HR violations before inquiring into IRAQ war or can they Inquire their own bosses ?

FYI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

13Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:26 am

Jana1


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Leon wrote:
UKboy wrote:
Jana1 wrote:

Packer doesn't have any capacity at Aussie, even his $350mn in peanut for Australian government. May be Dr.M.R might have greater power than packer in Aussie government since boat arrivals have huge impact on the Aussie cabinet. So Tonny wouldn't go wrong with M.R. But British head has some agenda which is not clear to the public yet.

Our government are well aware the result of US sanction. They don't go that extreme. MR is tactic player who swells if he needs. Easy way is they try to punish army commander (Sarath fon) for war crime and make the deal simple, may be few more officials will be punished. This could be the worst. Politics is always dirty and  war would always make casualties. No1 can change it...

Agree with you Jana.
I was also thinking similar sort of escape route ( if things get worse). Send few top level army officers to prison can be the easiest way to ease the situation for few more years. However the government will have to look after those families until the officers back.

We all should thank for British people whoever cast their votes for conservative party (David Cameron's Party). If labour party in power then things could have been much worse.

In General Sri Lankan who (used to) support LTTE in UK have more power and money than UK Sri lankan community who don't either support ltte or pressurise sl government for war crimes.

Any UK party cannot ignore the voting power of Srilankans live in UK. As a commonwealth country, Srilankans live the UK can cast thier votes in any UK election. They dont have to have PR or UK citizenship for that.

I think sl government should at least try to keep a good relationship with Europe. Even though it wont give any positive impact short/medium term.

I don't think there's any possibility to betray military and make a way out. Because that will definitely erode vote base in the country and opposition may use the situation.

Wouldn't u think that the economic sanction would erode vote base? The issue is which1 would erode more votes... If economic sanction get enforce, Sri Lanka already has similar sort of closed economy effort which made Srimavo government into hell... If punishing officials would erode certain % of sinhala vote whilst attracting most minority votes.

If MR plan everything perfectly, painting some officials ordered to rape sum1 or if so (just hypothetically assume) even majority Sinhalese would show mercy that officials should be punished. Even urself would think to punish them.. Its all about politics and their nature.. Human mind will simply adopt for that similar to when mkt moves up no1 wanna sell assuming it will go up further....

14Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:38 am

wiki


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Thanks to our short sighted policies and not understanding the reality and gravity of the problem now we have to bat in a difficult wicket.

It is time to

1. Wed Jayalalitha... then join the India, US, Japanees ally and say bye to China
2. Go for 13 plus as promised

15Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:22 am

pushpakumara


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

"The truth is heavy, therefore few care to carry it." ~Winston Churchill

Political, racial, religious beliefs etc will diminish or block our perception of reality.

16Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:23 am

D.G.Dayaratne


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

I think govt try to use Geneva HR problem for next election

The know nothing will happen even the resolution is passed  PERSONALLY

sanctions will effect only for ordinary people, Economy and country

They also can cover inefficiency of the Govt by using sanctions

MR know how  to convert  PERSONAL threat in to  PERSONAL opportunity

Govt could have solved all this problem by implementation of
LLRC proposals

But implementation of LLRC wiil not help to make money

They can't do what they are doing now under good RULE OF LAW
situation in the country
Geneva is not a hurdle for rulers .It will be a blessing in disguise for them

It will be a hurdle only for ordinary people you and me



Last edited by D.G.Dayaratne on Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:42 am; edited 3 times in total (Reason for editing : to explain more)

17Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:43 am

D.G.Dayaratne


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Why no comments

Do you all agree with me ?

18Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:21 am

dudi


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

F****** hurdles suck.it takes us investors to our grave now

19Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:58 am

kukumarx


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

D.G.Dayaratne wrote:I think govt try to use Geneva HR problem for next election

The know nothing will happen even the resolution is passed  PERSONALLY

sanctions will effect only for ordinary people, Economy and country

They also can cover inefficiency of the Govt by using sanctions

MR know how  to convert  PERSONAL threat in to  PERSONAL opportunity

Govt could have solved all this problem by implementation of
LLRC proposals

But implementation of LLRC wiil not help to make money

They can't do what they are doing now under good RULE OF LAW
situation in the country
Geneva is not a hurdle for rulers .It will be a blessing in disguise for them

It will be a hurdle only for ordinary people you and me


Totally agree!

Hope we are not heading for Zimbabwe type situation

20Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:33 am

hettdas

hettdas
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

D.G.Dayaratne wrote:I think govt try to use Geneva HR problem for next election

The know nothing will happen even the resolution is passed  PERSONALLY

sanctions will effect only for ordinary people, Economy and country

They also can cover inefficiency of the Govt by using sanctions

MR know how  to convert  PERSONAL threat in to  PERSONAL opportunity

Govt could have solved all this problem by implementation of
LLRC proposals

But implementation of LLRC wiil not help to make money



They can't do what they are doing now under good RULE OF LAW
situation in the country
Geneva is not a hurdle for rulers .It will be a blessing in disguise for them

It will be a hurdle only for ordinary people you and me

Well said. Rulers can blame for sanctions and cover their inefficiency & corruption. I also totally agree with you.

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

The Sri Lankan government Wednesday urged the US to reconsider its position on the island nation and support efforts towards achieving reconciliation in the country.

Sri Lanka's Justice Minister Rauff Hakeem said, instead of further polarising the country, the international community, including the US, must look at alternate mechanisms like encouraging a truth commission in order to see reconciliation being achieved in the country, Xinhua reported.

Hakeem said the US government had a preconceived notion on Sri Lanka and this was clear even during the recent visit of Stephen J. Rapp, ambassador-at-large for war crimes issues, Office of Global Criminal Justice of the US State Department.

The minister said digging for evidence to back war crimes charged on Sri Lanka will only aggravate the division among communities and not help reconciliation.

The US Sunday urged Sri Lanka to seek the truth over alleged human rights abuses through independent and credible investigations.

The US embassy in Colombo said Stephen J. Rapp, during his recent visit to Sri Lanka, not only heard about the progress made since the conflict, but also the Sri Lankan people's continuing desire for reconciliation, justice and accountability.

The US said it remained committed to working with the Sri Lankan government to promote greater peace and prosperity for all people of the South Asian country, and it was vital that all sides came to an agreement on events, had appropriate redress, and moved forward as a unified country that upholds the rule of law and respects the principles of democratic governance. (Newindianexpress.com)
http://ceylontoday.lk/16-52968-news-detail-sri-lanka-wants-us-to-reconsider-position-on-war-crimes.html

22Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:05 pm

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Nobody actually gives a rats ass about rights issues. The real concern is about Chinese lurking in the neighborhood. India has had a military take over plan of SL since mid 1970's .Prime target Trinco harbor to control international shipping lanes in the Indian ocean. Maldives coup also Indian backed as they were getting too cozy with the Chinese.

23Geneva Hurdle in March Empty Re: Geneva Hurdle in March Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:55 am

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Amidst those concerns, market is on uptrend. Looks like it is not a matter for market to become weak. Just my opinion.

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Like Super September this Geneva thing is a very predictable event. Some waiting to buy in March and lot of people talking about it. Nothing new about this to panic. There will be a market correction more than Geneva effect looking at the market movements.

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Dr. Veerakanthipillai Shanmugarajah’s Affidavit Description of Conditions in the Vanni Pocket in Refutation of Channel Four


Dr.-V.-Shanmugarajah-s - times[1]This item is taken from Engage Sri Lanka: Corrupted Journalism,  2013, Appendix 2, pp. 203-14. The pictorial illustrations are the Editor’s additions.
I, Dr. Veerakanthipillai Shanmugarajah, Medical Superintendent , Mullaitivu General Hospital, being a Hindu, honestly , sincerely and solemnly swear andMAKE OATH as follows:
1. I  am Dr.Veerakanthipillai Shanmugarajah, presently Medical Superintendent ,Mullaitivu.  I was born on 11 June 1968 and am presently 44 years old. I am a graduate of Jaffna University’s faculty of Medicine, and hold the qualification of Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery. I have had additional training in obstetrics and gynaecology and anaesthesia. I have worked as a Medical Officer at the Jaffna Teaching Hospital, the District General Hospital in Killinochi and the Mullaitivu General Hospital. I was the Medical Superintendent at Mullaitivu General Hospital and the acting Medical Superintendent in charge of the obstetrics ward at the hospital. I am married, and have three children aged 13, 10 and 4.
2. For all my career, I practised medicine in the north of Sri Lanka, and particularly in the Vanni, which is made up of Killinochi, Mullaitivu, Mannar and Vavuniya districts. This area had been caught up in a war between the government and the “Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam”’ the LTTE. Also known as the “Tamil tigers”. While the LTTE controlled large parts of the Vanni, The Government of Sri Lanka  continued to provide education, medical and other services to the population.
3. I can confirm that I have been offered the assistance of Stephen Williams, a solicitor of the Supreme court qualified to practice in England and Wales who has helped me to prepare this affidavit.
4. Between January and May 2009 my work involved a mixture of administration, emergency surgery and providing non emergency medical treatment.
5. From 2002 onwards there was a ceasefire in the Sri Lankan conflict. This ceasefire deteriorated and from 2006onwards the conflict began to intensify. From 2007 onwards the war began to affect the Vanni. Government forces gradually recovered areas previously controlled by the LTTE and much of the population of the Vanni moved into other LTTE areas. As doctors within the government medical service and in accordance with a previously agreed disaster protocol, from  late 2008 onwards we moved with the population from district and general hospitals to a series of makeshift hospitals which were established in areas into which the population had been relocated. 1A-3- 82-UNITED-NATIONS-SRI-LANKA-facebook+Pic from HRW
6. After the fall of Killinochi to government forces and the displacement of the civilian purposes into other LTTE-controlled areas, my colleagues and I followed the population with the medical services and established a series of hospitals, and in which I served, which were:-
1.     Mullaitivu District General Hospital until 5th January 2009.
2.     Vallipuram makeshift hospital from 5th January 2009 to 27th January 2009.
3.     Thevipuram makeshift hospital form 28th January 2009 to 15th February 2009.
4.     Mullaivaikkal West from 15th February 2009 to 3rd May 2009.  There was also a small mediacl unit operating  from Anuabapuram from15th February 20 1st March 2009
5.     Vellamullivaikkal from 3rd May 2009 to 5th May 2009
7. These makeshift hospitals were usually situated within school buildings.  As doctors and medical administrators we had already prepared a disaster contingency plan.  The war had previously disrupted the provision of medical services and we had also had the experience of coping with the Tsunami disaster and its effects on  hospitals and medical services in our area.  In early 2008, we had already discussed a disaster plan with the Government Agent in Mullaitivu.  Doctors and administrators had received training in disaster management from non-governmental organisations such as Oxfam and others.
8. In the medical team for which I had responsibility, we had more than ten doctors, several of whom were senior surgeons having graduated  from medical school in the early 1990’s.  The most junior surgeon that we had on the team had 5 years surgical experience.  We also had about 15 trained theatre nurses.  I am proud to say that we maintained as much of a medical and surgical presence as possible all the way through the crisis up to 14th and 15th May 2009.
9. We would receive those who had been injured into our temporary hospitals and provide them with the medical and surgical treatment as necessary.  The patients would then be evacuated by the International Committee of the Red Cross.  IN the earlier part of the crisis they were evacuated by road to government hospitals in Vavuniya.  Toward the end of the crisis, the ICRC evacuated our patients by ships to hospitals in Trincomalee.   I am proud to say that we were able to save most of the people who came into our medical centres at the time.  We stopped operating on the evening of the 13th May and for 14th and 15th May we were only able to offer first-aid services.  The war ended on 15th May.
10. The number of people arriving on a daily basis at our temporary medical points from January 2009 onwards fluctuated.  On some days there would be no casualties, and on others one or two but this escalated and toward the end of the crisis we were receiving as many as one hundred casualties per day but the figures fluctuated with the ebb and flow of the fighting.  Of these, perhaps thirty percent would be LTTE combatants, and the rest civilians.
85b-08_02_09_03 From Tamilnet & other Tamil sites 86b--19_02_09_01
11. Some comment has been made about the prevalence of malnutrition in the area in which I was based.  I can say that I saw very few cases of malnutrition.   They were too mild to moderate in nature.
H 112b -09_05_09__Mulli-vaaykkaal_06 kanchi being served-Tamilnet, 9 May H 111a -queues 27 April 09H 111b 28_04_09_foodshortage_03Pics-Tamilnet. late April 2009
H 112a -09_05_09__Mulli-vaaykkaal_12 rations doled out – Tamilnet, early May
12. The patients we dealt with were suffering from a variety of injuries, including close-fighting injuries such as gunshots as well as shrapnel wounds from shelling.  We also dealt with a range of routine medical matters, including the delivery of babies.
13. As a matter of course we kept meticulous records of casualties and fatalities during this period.  Our computerised records were lost in the last days of the fighting but I would say that there were between 500-600 deaths in March 2009 and in all about 2,500 deaths up to the end of the crisis that I was aware of.
14. During the course of the conflict I either experienced or was advised of several incidents of shells falling either in or in the immediate vicinity of our makeshift hospitals.
15. In January 2009 at Vallipuram hospital two shells landed, one outside the outpatients department, the other at the back of the hospital.  I understand that 2 people were killed and 4 were injured in that attack.
16. At  Puthukudiyiruppu hospital there were two occasions in which shells fell, one on the hospital building itself and one in the hospital grounds with there being 3 deaths and 10 injuries.
17. Vellamullivaikkal hospital also received incoming shell fire on one occasion which left 5 dead and 10 injured.
18. Mullaviakkal hospital received shell fire to the grounds immediately in front and behind the hospital building leaving 4 dead and 10 injured.
19. I had at various points in the conflict remonstrated with LTTE commanders about munitions being placed near to hospital buildings. Sometimes they were sensitive to the need to remove these munitions and at other times my objections were ignored.  During the last two weeks of the fighting there was a breakdown in the command structure of the LTTE forces nearest to the hospital and no requests that I made to move munitions away from the hospital were listened to.
20. I was on several occasions put under pressure by the LTTE International co-ordinator to give false death and casualty figures to the International Media.  On one occasion, the death toll that day had been 34 but I was instructed to tell the media that the death toll was 534.  This was not true but I knew that to disobey the direction of the LTTE would result in immediate punishment.  My colleague D. S refused to obey an LTTE request and that resulted in his being shackled by the ankles and placed in prison for a month.
21. As part of our disaster management plans, we had stockpiled medical supplies an drugs from 2008 onwards.  In 2009 we had 30 fridges dedicated for the use of drugs.  This then went down to 14 fridges as we relocated to a series of makeshift hospitals.
22. In terms of ordering medical supplies we had a medical committee which met every month to review the situation and order medical supplies.  In December 2008 we received a large shipment of about 60% of the supplies requested for the next 12month period and we thereafter were supplied once every 3 months and in the later stages of the war these supplies came by ship via the ICRC.  There was a problem with supply during the last 5 days of the conflict when all ship movement was disrupted.
23. We had approximately 6 generators for hospital use but by the end of the conflict we only had three that were still working. These maintained power to the temporary operating theatres, drug fridges and other essential needs. The generators were single-phase and ran a simple line. We also stockpiled fuel with which to keep our generators going. These supplies were added to when the United Nations withdrew their presence in September 2008;  we received some of their fuel supplies. These supplies moved with us as we moved our medical operations to makeshift hospitals. We had named officials who were in charge of supervising medical supplies, fuel and transport. We did face attempts by criminals to steal our fuel.
24. I have seen both of the Channel 4 programmes about the last months of the war in Sri Lanka. I was  surprised at the claims made in both of these programmes. I was present as a medical doctor, surgeon and administrator all the way through the events featured in the programmes, up to the final days of the conflict. I am also mentioned in the first programme, and my image features in the second.
25. I am very surprised that Channel 4 never once attempted to contact me regarding either of the programmes as I was very well placed to provide accurate and clear information about the provision of medical services within the conflict area during the latter stages of the fighting.
26.  I am particularly surprised they did not attempt to contact me with regards to the claims made by Vany Kumar in the first programme. Vany Kumar and a companion were brought to the hosjpital by the LTTE on  or about 21 April 2009. I asked her about her experience and she told me that she had no medical qualifications. She agreed to help to dress wounds and clean the medical areas. I do remember her watching an epidural procedure. VANY KUMARVany Kumar (an alias adopted by Gnanakumar Thamilvani, b. 1984 at Nelliyadi, Jaffna Peninsula)
27. Vany Kumar states that she witnessed me amputating the leg and arm of a six year-old without anaesthesia. This is a complete fabrication and I am amazed at such a claim for several reasons. Amputations were carried out in the makeshift medical centres during this period, but they had been performed by other surgeons and doctors. I performed no amputations at all during the crisis: the last time I had performed an amputations of any sort had been in 2005. I had performed more than 1,000C-sections from 2005 until May 2009, and had been the supervisor of staff involved with more than 5,000 deliveries. I carried out a C-section as late as 12 May 2009.
28. I am also appalled at Vany Kumar’s suggestion that any major operation, especially an amputation, would have been carried out without anaesthesia. Because of our emergency disaster planning our stock of medical drugs and anaesthetics lasted us until the end of the crisis and anaesthesia was available right up until we ceased surgery on about the 13th May 2009.
29. Vany Kumar also claimed that surgery was carried out with a kitchen knife. I also find this to be a false and amazing statement. We had ample supplies of surgical instruments, and used seperate surgical blades on each patient. We had  a stockpile of 5,000 surgical blades as of January 2009. We also had the full range of instruments, including bone-cutters.
30. When we moved from the district hospitals into other parts of the Vanni we took with us more than 30 truck-loads of equipment and supplies, equipment and supplies which we then moved with us as and when we set up makeshift and temporary medical centres.
31. Vany Kumar also claimed that she helped to filter blood coming out of a patient through a cloth before feeding it back into their veins. This again is totally untrue. Whilst it is true to say that we had some problems screening our blood supplies as the fighting came to an end, we never had to resort to the type of practice that Vany Kumar identifies and to my knowledge she was never involved in the transfusion of blood. Blood was collected from the local population to be used in transfusions and Vany Kumar may have seen patients who underwent operations having blood removed and reinfused into them. She was not directly involved in any of these procedures.
32. The International Committee of the Red Cross were aware of the precise location of all our makeshift and temporary hospitals. They would often be briefed in the positions to which we would be relocating. The ICRC would then log GPS co-ordinates. It was not our job as doctors to do so and we did not have the equipment with which to do so.
33. I am surprised that Channel 4 did not contact me before making the claims they then televised. I was back working in the Vanni from October 2009 onwards and would have been easily and readily contactable by telephone at any of the hospitals at which I worked. It would have been very easy to contact me by telephone.
34. Similarly, I am aware of the claims made by Gordon Weiss regarding the number of shellings hospitals in the conflict area suffered. These claims are wrong. It is also the case that at no stage did Mr. Weiss try to contact me to discuss any of the events in the Vanni that he sought to describe.
35. I have never had the opportunity of telling my story. My contact with the international media has been disappointing. They have only been interested in casualty figures and were not at all concerned about the broader history of the provision of medical services in the conflict zone towards the end of the fighting.
SHAN SIGNATURE[1]
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