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Criticizing COCR share repurchase

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26COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:49 am

stockback


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Teller wrote:This is from insider information.  No source available to prove it . So decision is yours. I am also holding this share  but sold most above 70/-


why company go for the Right issue

increase share holder capital or maybe increase liquidity and expand.

COCR can used debenture to expand the business and attract new deposits from new investor.

Example

CSF - before right issue they had minus assets. then they went for Right Issue 

OSEA - Right issue. expand the business. they cannot go for debenture. they cannot pay 14-16% year interest and build new building ..... no point debenture for them.

for finance company debenture is good idea bcz they can replace it loans for customer and get another 8-10% easily. at the same time the can borrow more money and expand the business....

27COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:52 am

stockback


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Teller wrote:This is from insider information.  No source available to prove it . So decision is yours. I am also holding this share  but sold most above 70/-


your best and best..

bcz you got HEXP inside info, SFL, now COCR etc.......


still nothing happen. still HEXP land deal also not conclude. if they did they has inform to CSE.

nikan boru kiyanna epa. oya boru okkoma eka para eiy. wena widiyakata kalpanawen.

mama katha karanne facts base.....

28COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:13 am

trader7


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

teller, just making stories to manipulate just as he did with HEXP.
I believe price appreciation for COCR soon

29COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:58 am

cse.newbie


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

COCR is not going for a rights issue.. if you buy now you can sell at 80 or above,
Forget 111.00 forget a deal just think selling at 80.00


Teller is frustrated cuz his Hexp is not going up, for Hexp it will go to 105 level so what is more profitable.

Cocr will close above 70 within this week and there will be an announcement on the seal this week which will initiate another BIG run.


Just wait and see. Read about directors skeptical dealing which I published yesterday

Jaya wewa!

30COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:20 am

Teller


Moderator
Moderator

I don't care HEXP or COCR because I have both share holdings. I told the information which I got.

31COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:56 am

ONTHEMONEY


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Hi Teller,

Tell us your sources for insiders such as directors?auditors?employees?or someone else?Because many share information without any width and depth

32COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:36 am

whyzo


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

No Right Issue, its sure more than 1000%. No any discussion regarding that internally.   Wink Wink Wink

33COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:56 am

ruwan326

ruwan326
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

whyzo wrote:No Right Issue, its sure more than 1000%. No any discussion regarding that internally.   Wink Wink Wink
What about the Singapore investment? Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

34COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:05 am

samaritan


Moderator
Moderator

The share price will move according to supply & demand. If everyone is targeting 80/=, i wonder who will be the buyer at 80/=.

35COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:14 am

ruwan326

ruwan326
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

samaritan wrote:The share price will move according to supply & demand. If everyone is targeting 80/=, i wonder who will be the buyer at 80/=.
Directors wife will sell and we gonna buy again...........

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy  Last week remember @ 77/= also people bought

36COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:26 am

ONTHEMONEY


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Hi Teller, 

Small clarification about your comment on "weak asset quality of #COCR"

As per Annual Report 2015/16;

Gross NPA is 4.2%
NEt NPA is 0.01%

This is below the industry norms! However you have said COCR asset quality is weak? Please clarify on what grounds you made the comment?


Further We are glad to know your insider sources in broad as you have many insider news about most of the companies?

Good Luck

37COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:42 am

sapumal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

ONTHEMONEY wrote:Hi Teller, 

Small clarification about your comment on "weak asset quality of #COCR"

As per Annual Report 2015/16;

Gross NPA is 4.2%
NEt NPA is 0.01%

This is below the industry norms! However you have said COCR asset quality is weak? Please clarify on what grounds you made the comment?


Further We are glad to know your insider sources in broad as you have many insider news about most of the companies?

Good Luck
I don't know anything related to COCR. But weak quality means market value is not same as book value.
For an example CITK bought CLND @44. But it is a weak quality asset as no one would buy CLND stake above 35

38COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:45 am

ONTHEMONEY


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Hi Sapumal,

COCR is assets portfolio mainly comprised with advances! COCR in banking and finance industry and heath of such is represented via Non-Performing advances[NPA] in annual report.

As per the Annual Report it is very healthy

Good Luck

39COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:03 am

stockback


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

samaritan wrote:The share price will move according to supply & demand. If everyone is targeting 80/=, i wonder who will be the buyer at 80/=.


I will take one example

AAIC

Net assets is -- 5.42

EPS --- 1.19*2 = 2.38

share price is around 23

COCR


Net assets -- 27.24  

EPS -- 10-11 (this year)

share price around 68 now.

 coming quarter reports will show progress continues then share price is moving. no need to panic this is good stock now

have you got my idea...

40COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty GREEN TODAY Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:15 am

ruwan326

ruwan326
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

How about around 11:00 Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy  COCR repeat last Monday  Basketball Basketball Basketball Basketball Basketball Basketball

41COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:24 am

stockback


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

samaritan wrote:The share price will move according to supply & demand. If everyone is targeting 80/=, i wonder who will be the buyer at 80/=.


kauda hithuwe HEXP gani kiyala 100.

plenty of stock traded around 100 level.

think and invest...

42COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:47 am

stockback


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

example

LB Finance 

now doing 900 Millions per quarter. maybe they have new target 4000 Millions for financial year.

think
COCR doping same amount.
4000/320 = EPS 12.5

this year they have target 3200 Millions, 

COCr plan is clear. targeting to expand the business during next 2-3 years. 

dont forget 1.5% stocks are holding in the market without top 20 holders.

43COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:58 am

TARGET


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

stockback wrote:
think and invest...
Yes. Think and invest and then promote day and night till you sell the quantity.. Very Happy

44COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:39 pm

stockback


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

TARGET wrote:
stockback wrote:
think and invest...
Yes. Think and invest and then promote day and night till you sell the quantity.. Very Happy


common guys. 


CSE very under value compare with other countries. 
I am not think my words effect to others. I said think and invest.

some people buying Craps. example CIFL. CIFL move 1-2. then gain 100% without anything

why COCR not move 100%. it has value and also 29.99% stocks buying one party at 111

Think and Invest..

these days Market Red. then we cannot expect. I hope today green day.still Red  maybe last moment this will be change

45COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:18 pm

ruwan326

ruwan326
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

stockback wrote:
TARGET wrote:
stockback wrote:
think and invest...
Yes. Think and invest and then promote day and night till you sell the quantity.. Very Happy


common guys. 


CSE very under value compare with other countries. 
I am not think my words effect to others. I said think and invest.

some people buying Craps. example CIFL. CIFL move 1-2. then gain 100% without anything

why COCR not move 100%. it has value and also 29.99% stocks buying one party at 111

Think and Invest..

these days Market Red. then we cannot expect. I hope today green day.still Red  maybe last moment this will be change
TILL MARKET GET GREEN LETS HAVE A PAUSE...........
NEXT MONDAY MIGHT BE THE DAY FOR COCR
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

46COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:14 pm

Chinwi

Chinwi
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

කසාද බැඳින්න ආසාවෙ පැණි හලාගෙන​ ඉන්න​ කොල්ලෙක් උනත් කට්ටිය එකතුවෙලා උස්සන් ගිහින් හනීමූන් කාමරේට දාල වහල බලාගෙන ඉන්නකොට කොච්චර දක්ස උනත් ඌට වැඩේ කර ගන්න බැරි වෙනව නැත්නම් ප්‍රමාද වෙනව​.
කට්ටිය එක්වෙලා COCR උස්සගෙන දුවන්නෙත් අන්න ඒ වගේ.
ඔන්න නගී මෙන්න නගී කියල දෙන තල්ලුවෙ තදේ වැඩිවෙලා නගින්න ගිය එකත් නැවතිලා වගේ.

47COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:21 pm

Teller

Teller
Moderator
Moderator

We cant take any decision based on 111/- deal. Some times who knows COCR owner returned excess money by under the hand to thai group?

48COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:42 pm

stockback


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Teller wrote:We cant take any decision based on 111/- deal. Some times who knows COCR owner returned excess money by under the hand to thai group?


if main share holder doing this then we can guess something else also.

but second share holder doing(mainly) and third person also involve. who selling 22% and 0.74% they need money. 

Think and Invest.

some one saying here who buying at 80 level. I can show one example COCR. 29.99% stocks buying at 111 price. 

these days market red. then we cannot expect super run. wait bit time. and deal agreements are sign 03.10.2016. clearly mention on Doc of Group Lease.


Land deal ekak nisa 40 HEXP - 100 yanna pulwwannam. ita wada honda company ekak. 111 walata share price eka evaluate karanawnam aiy COCR ta 100 yanna bari. 

next financial report is give plenty of answers. I expect over 2.5 EPS for this quarter 

Kuhkathwaya nawathwanna .

49COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:12 pm

ONTHEMONEY


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Hi Teller,

Please clarify on grey areas of your comments as I have pointed already before posting bogus information!

Thanks

50COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty COCR VS HONEYMOON Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:15 pm

ruwan326

ruwan326
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Chinwi wrote:කසාද බැඳින්න ආසාවෙ පැණි හලාගෙන​  ඉන්න​  කොල්ලෙක් උනත් කට්ටිය එකතුවෙලා  උස්සන් ගිහින්  හනීමූන් කාමරේට දාල වහල බලාගෙන ඉන්නකොට කොච්චර දක්ස උනත් ඌට වැඩේ කර ගන්න බැරි වෙනව නැත්නම් ප්‍රමාද වෙනව​.
කට්ටිය එක්වෙලා COCR උස්සගෙන දුවන්නෙත් අන්න ඒ වගේ.
ඔන්න  නගී මෙන්න නගී  කියල දෙන තල්ලුවෙ තදේ වැඩිවෙලා  නගින්න ගිය එකත් නැවතිලා වගේ.
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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51COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:21 pm

trader7


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

@stockback,

"Land deal ekak nisa 40 HEXP - 100 yanna pulwwannam. ita wada honda company ekak. 111 walata share price eka evaluate karanawnam aiy COCR ta 100 yanna bari."

Hariyata hari

52COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:54 pm

Chinwi

Chinwi
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Teller wrote:We cant take any decision based on 111/- deal. Some times who knows COCR owner returned excess money by under the hand to thai group?

ONTHEMONEY wrote:Hi Teller,

Please clarify on grey areas of your comments as I have pointed already before posting bogus information!

I smell Teller knows more than he write in this regard.

I too refrain producing many info related to some business deals and other links bet Sri Lankans & Thais and their names  .  Why should I ?
All are available in the Internet.
Even in old threads in this forum .

53COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:17 pm

vic19

vic19
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

The CSE and SEC should investigate these matters specially with regards to the price difference ?

Specially when the stock trading very less compare to the private transfer deal.

The main purpose of SEC is this is in it ?

Hey but we taking of Sri Lanka SEC . They might get a grand hampers from the beneficiary during Christmas ...........very difficult to change the cultural habits....

54COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:57 pm

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55COCR - Criticizing COCR share repurchase - Page 2 Empty Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:16 pm

hiransilva23


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

I think teller is right.111 price only a show.real price should below 80.

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