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President cancels NSB, TFC deal

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26President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Sat May 05, 2012 2:17 pm

Redbulls


Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

K.Haputantri wrote:
UKboy wrote:I’m 65:35 against this president’s move.

I personally believe a president of any country should not interfere into any stock market transaction.
Ok we all know that NSB paid a hefty price for TFC share & we all know that this does not look right.

Who bought the TFC shares? Yes its NSB. But remember..a top level NSB officer had to agree with this TFC price tag . Rather cancelling an executed transaction, president/SEC should have brought this officer to justice. These corrupted government officers are a real curse to our country.

Reverse any stock market transaction should not be the best solution to overcome this type of an issue. Whole this scenario reminds me a much softer version of expropriation law.


Very good point brother, but this is Sri Lankan way of doing things. You cancel the transaction & allow the culprit to stay on.

May be beginning of new era.
We'll wait and see.

27President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Sat May 05, 2012 2:37 pm

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

rijayasooriya wrote:This would give one plus mark for the president after longtime.But we need to have a good policy.Then HE do not need to interefere in these matters.Have to have a good team.

Exactly.Vptilak has also mentioned a valid point above. Unless government take early action to establish good governance all development targets would be only dreams and ppl will suffer.

28President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Sat May 05, 2012 6:17 pm

sapumal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Relation between Chief Justice and deleted Silva has been revealed from this transaction. Good Luck beautiful Hirunika

29President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Sat May 05, 2012 9:37 pm

illuminati


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

His Excellency Mr president please take steps to reverse the EPF / LGL and many other dubious transactions executed by EPF. EPF is public money and should be treated as such.

30President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Sun May 06, 2012 8:31 am

wiki


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Why it need directions from HE ?

There are responsible institutions to prevent these type of rackets.. but those were crippled by the existing political system and HE. that is why most were against 18th amendment and bold power vested by the constitution on president.

... Sad thing is poor people of this country happy about the involvement of HE..

31President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Tue May 08, 2012 2:09 am

UKboy

UKboy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Redbulls wrote:
K.Haputantri wrote:
UKboy wrote:I’m 65:35 against this president’s move.

I personally believe a president of any country should not interfere into any stock market transaction.
Ok we all know that NSB paid a hefty price for TFC share & we all know that this does not look right.

Who bought the TFC shares? Yes its NSB. But remember..a top level NSB officer had to agree with this TFC price tag . Rather cancelling an executed transaction, president/SEC should have brought this officer to justice. These corrupted government officers are a real curse to our country.

Reverse any stock market transaction should not be the best solution to overcome this type of an issue. Whole this scenario reminds me a much softer version of expropriation law.


Very good point brother, but this is Sri Lankan way of doing things. You cancel the transaction & allow the culprit to stay on.

May be beginning of new era.
We'll wait and see.

I dont think any of the large scale local/foreign investors see this "reverse transaction" as a positive move. More or less they will be scared off Rolling Eyes

32President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Tue May 08, 2012 9:16 am

CHASE

CHASE
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

UKboy wrote:I’m 65:35 against this president’s move.

I personally believe a president of any country should not interfere into any stock market transaction.
Ok we all know that NSB paid a hefty price for TFC share & we all know that this does not look right.

Who bought the TFC shares? Yes its NSB. But remember..a top level NSB officer had to agree with this TFC price tag . Rather cancelling an executed transaction, president/SEC should have brought this officer to justice. These corrupted government officers are a real curse to our country.

Reverse any stock market transaction should not be the best solution to overcome this type of an issue. Whole this scenario reminds me a much softer version of expropriation law.


I agreed with UKboys comment. By cancelling this transaction President is trying to protect his Dogs & Protect his Votes. If he really care about the Retailers/CSE He should bring these people to justice.

33President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Sanctity of CSE hinges on NSB Tue May 08, 2012 10:18 am

sriranga

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* Experts and analysts insist savings giant as a custodial bank must pay up and resolve internal issues separately without compromising integrity stability and confidence of market
* Popular settlement banker Sampath with Rs. 390 m overdrawn from CDS following payment on TFC deal stalls operations on Friday, causing chaos for brokers and clients of other deals; CSE expects backlog to be cleared today


President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 221x1310

The sanctity and credibility of the Colombo Stock Exchange (CSE) today hinges on the National Savings Bank (NSB) with analysts fearing failure to honour its recent purchase of The Finance Company Plc (TFC) shares can dealt the biggest blow to capital markets.

As exclusively reported by the Daily FT last week, the bizarre turn of events following the purchase of a 13% stake in TFC for Rs. 390 million by NSB have sent shockwaves across the entire financial services industry.

Analysts said irrespective of whether the purchase of TFC stake is ill advised or not, foolish or otherwise, the sanctity of the trade cannot be compromised, hence NSB must honour the transaction by paying and resolve its own issues separately than risking the stability and confidence of the capital market.
The background to the unprecedented crisis situation facing the Colombo Bourse is that NSB, despite its status of a custodial bank, had 1) failed to reject the buy order if NSB had some doubts about the transaction within the permitted T+1 window or even thereafter and 2) thus far it has failed to settle the due arising out of the transaction.

Adding insult to injury, the settlement bank to the transaction Sampath Bank had “jumped the gun” and settled the sellers without ensuring remittance of funds from the buyer.

With regard to Sampath Bank’s predicament analysts said that usually there is zero doubt of a Custodial bank (which is part of the capital market payment system hence it is an inter-participant settlement) not honouring the commitments hence it (Sampath Bank) had gone ahead with the payment for sellers.

After having realised NSB hadn’t remitted funds, as of Friday, Sampath Bank has overdrawn Rs. 390 million from the Central Depository System (CDS). The latter development triggered a further crisis on Friday with Sampath Bank shutting down its settlement system with broking community on commitments due for T+3 on Friday.

The Daily FT learns that Sampath Bank had maintained the position that it needs to clear the funds before making fresh settlement on T+3 commitments of Friday. Sampath, given its excellent services and rates, is the settlement bank for at least 15 brokers. At least two brokers had around Rs. 60 million worth of settlement falling on Friday.

The affected brokers and their clients were furious on Friday despite assurances by regulators that the matter will be resolved.

It is learnt that following legal advice obtained, Sampath Bank will be emphatically told by the CSE that it needs to clear the backlog today irrespective of Rs. 390 million overdrawn problem arising out of the TFC transaction/payment though brokers’ fears remain. Brokers and investors who were affected by Sampath’s action had nothing to do with TFC fiasco.

Be that as it may, NSB as well as Sampath Bank coupled with the current crisis unless resolved would threaten defaming the Colombo Bourse as being unreliable for both local and foreign investors.

On 27 April NSB purchase 13% stake in TFC from a consortium involving Director and shareholder Dinal Wijemanne, high net worth investor Rayynor Silva (2.9 million shares each), Nandadeva Perera (669,700 shares) and Yogendra Perera (667,700 shares) as well as another TFC Director Anura Fernando (50,000), for Rs. 390 million.

There were 15 sellers in total for NSB, however the five named sellers accounted for 89% of the TFC shares traded on Friday, whilst NSB picked up the balance shares from the market. Devi Holdings, an existing shareholder, was the sole buyer of TFC apart from NSB collecting 115,000 shares.
It appears that following the purchase, NSB hadn’t rejected the buy order within T+1 or T+3 windows. On 3 May (the T+3 due date), even as late as 11 a.m. NSB officials had indicated they were waiting for clearance of payment over the purchase.

However, after the 12 noon deadline for settlement had elapsed, NSB officials had inquired from the CSE whether the buy order could be cancelled. By this time, Sampath Bank had effected the settlement to the sellers of TFC shares, either oblivious or not whether the funds from NSB had come in or not.

For the settlement system a saving grace was Taprobane Securities (CEO of which is Dinal Wijemanne, a director/shareholder of TFC) was the buying broker as well as for the majority of sellers with only three other brokers figuring in trades of TFC. If there had been widespread broker involvement, the fiasco over the settlement issue would have been far more damaging.
http://www.ft.lk/2012/05/08/sanctity-of-cse-hinges-on-nsb/

http://sharemarket-srilanka.blogspot.co.uk/

34President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Tue May 08, 2012 10:47 am

DK


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

I think now we can safely assume that there will be a very low involvement of foreign funds at CSE.

35President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Tue May 08, 2012 10:51 am

dindon1

dindon1
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

UKboy wrote:I’m 65:35 against this president’s move.

I personally believe a president of any country should not interfere into any stock market transaction.
Ok we all know that NSB paid a hefty price for TFC share & we all know that this does not look right.

Who bought the TFC shares? Yes its NSB. But remember..a top level NSB officer had to agree with this TFC price tag . Rather cancelling an executed transaction, president/SEC should have brought this officer to justice. These corrupted government officers are a real curse to our country.

Reverse any stock market transaction should not be the best solution to overcome this type of an issue. Whole this scenario reminds me a much softer version of expropriation law.

Good point.,I like to add little bit more to this .,People who are customers of NSB has the biggest "say" about the matter by withdrawing their money, given that this sort of behavior by the bank will add more risk to their deposits.,Then the employees of this bank will open their eyes and see what will be the future for them with the bank.,



36President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Tue May 08, 2012 11:46 am

greedy

greedy
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

dindon1 wrote:
UKboy wrote:I’m 65:35 against this president’s move.

I personally believe a president of any country should not interfere into any stock market transaction.
Ok we all know that NSB paid a hefty price for TFC share & we all know that this does not look right.

Who bought the TFC shares? Yes its NSB. But remember..a top level NSB officer had to agree with this TFC price tag . Rather cancelling an executed transaction, president/SEC should have brought this officer to justice. These corrupted government officers are a real curse to our country.

Reverse any stock market transaction should not be the best solution to overcome this type of an issue. Whole this scenario reminds me a much softer version of expropriation law.

Good point.,I like to add little bit more to this .,People who are customers of NSB has the biggest "say" about the matter by withdrawing their money, given that this sort of behavior by the bank will add more risk to their deposits.,Then the employees of this bank will open their eyes and see what will be the future for them with the bank.,




UKboy,

You are correct. The transaction should not be cancelled. If it is cancelled, the reliability of the stock market is going to be affected badly. The appropriate way of dealing this is to take legal actions against those responsible both buyers & sellers.

The below from FT.....

"Experts and analysts insist savings giant as a custodial bank must pay up and resolve internal issues separately without compromising integrity stability and confidence of market

Popular settlement banker Sampath with Rs. 390 m overdrawn from CDS following payment on TFC deal stalls operations on Friday, causing chaos for brokers and clients of other deals; CSE expects backlog to be cleared today

The sanctity and credibility of the Colombo Stock Exchange (CSE) today hinges on the National Savings Bank (NSB) with analysts fearing failure to honour its recent purchase of The Finance Company Plc (TFC) shares can dealt the biggest blow to capital markets."

Read the rest here ===> http://www.ft.lk/2012/05/08/sanctity-of-cse-hinges-on-nsb/

37President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Tue May 08, 2012 12:22 pm

econ

econ
Global Moderator

dinal wijemanna director of TFC and ceo of tabropane is buying back at 30 rupees.. he sold his stake to public bank at 50 and now he is buying back..
what a easy money ah.. Very Happy
http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_cse_announcements/2471336453332_.pdf

38President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Tue May 08, 2012 12:38 pm

sapumal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

This is not a fault of NSB board. The idiots are selected to these places by the president. NSB it self a financial institute. It should know how to evaluate TFC share. No needs to trust the brokers word.
President going to ruin whole country with idiots. His relatives destroyed the Sri Lankan Air Lines, Petrolium was destroyed by his friend uneducated cricketer de Mel, SLC , Valuable antiques, Harbor , drugs, thug ....
Unfortunately no one , no media blaming the person who selected these people.



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39President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Tue May 08, 2012 12:44 pm

rijayasooriya

rijayasooriya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

In my opinion Cancellation of this transaction is good and at the sametime legal action has to be taken against the culprits.

I think this is a positive move in long run.Real investers may be happy about this decision while manipulators may be crying.

And I can see some people tries to fishing in this muddy water to cover up their weaknesses.

40President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Tue May 08, 2012 1:02 pm

sapumal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

This is a illegal deal. They can't do transaction on own desire. There are some authorities to get the approval. If it is allowed to do it is going to be another hedging deal.
My opinion is president don't want to cancel these deals. What he care is only the reputation. This one is very dangerous for him since this idiot was selected by him and he is the only husband of chief justice. Still only few know about who is he and if this get publicity people try to understand the relationship between president and chief justice.

If he really care about these deals his son will not get what SLRC got(cricket) for decades. There are lot of examples buddy. Hope every one of us know about these things

41President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Tue May 08, 2012 1:04 pm

greedy

greedy
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

What will happen in future is whenever EPF or any other government institution become a party to the stock market transaction, the other party (buyer/seller) may ask if the deal has president's approval before going ahead. Because, Now we all know that a stock market transaction may be cancelled at president's order even after T+2 days!!

42President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Tue May 08, 2012 1:55 pm

sapumal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Yes. President should not involved in this case. This should be cleared in court. This can be easily canceled in court as in hedging deal as the correct procedure hadn't followed. But if it is go to the court , the main culprit the chief justice's husband's qualifications, came procedures will not be a secret to the public.

43President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Tue May 08, 2012 4:48 pm

rijayasooriya

rijayasooriya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Cancellation of this transaction has already given a good punishment to the culprits.They have become naked publicly.Their reputation,if they have such a thing,has gone.How can they show their face to others ?

(This is not a justification for not to punish them legaly.)

44President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Tue May 08, 2012 5:52 pm

pathfinder

pathfinder
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

These idiots don't know the meaning of shame.They should be punished as they deserved.
Not as PB jaya...,karuna got the punishment.
This fraud should go to courts.(Since wife is CJ, KAKILLE type verdict may entertained)

If MR can punished SF in that manner why not others,dirty politics!!!

45President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Wed May 09, 2012 9:14 am

gamaya


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

So the deal is cancelled and thats it? No justice for trying to send public funds down the drain?

And btw what about epf deals such as buying Gran at 250? No investigations to those?

46President cancels NSB, TFC deal - Page 2 Empty Re: President cancels NSB, TFC deal Wed May 09, 2012 9:28 am

sapumal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

If it is canceled no jail time for culprits. So it is not a punishment. But if it was canceled no layer can ask, qualifications of these idiots and how they come as chairman

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