CFLB... Huge capital gain from it's investments.... (31-03-2010--->31-03-2011)more than 40/= per share during last financial year.

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COLO
No of Shares : 4,145,089
Price 31-03-2010 : 68.25
Price 31-12-2010 : 230
Price 31-03-2011 : 300
Capital Gain for 1 year : 960.62 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 26.68/=

EBCR
No of Shares : 1343739
Price 31-03-2010 : 280/=
Price 31-12-2010 : 960/=
Price 31-03-2011 : 2498/=
Capital Gain for 1 year : 2980.4 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 82.78/=

YORK
No of Shares : 5911923
Price 31-03-2010 : 12.25/=
Price 31-12-2010 : 24.4/=
Price 31-03-2011 : 37/=
Capital Gain for 1 year : 146.3 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 4/=

LCEY
No of Shares : 6466984
Price 31-03-2010 : 64/=
Price 31-12-2010 : 235/=
Price 31-03-2011 : 401.5/=
Capital Gain for 1 year : 2182.6 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 60.61/=

CFI 66--> 450
No of Shares : 1227783
Price 31-03-2010 : 66/=
Price 31-03-2011 : 450/=
Capital Gain for 1 year : 469.54 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 13/=

CIT
No of Shares : 1114882
Price 31-03-2010 : 74.75/=
Price 31-03-2011 : 420/=
Capital Gain for 1 year : 384.9 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 10.7/=

CFLB (63.5-->400)
No of Shares : 1017986
Capital Gain for 1 year : 342 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 9.4/=

Others - NTB (46M) GUAR (42M) LOLC (40M) HNB (35M) CTCE (22M) HAYL (20M) COMB (19M) CARG(19M) SINS (12M) DFCC (!@M) ALLI (10M)
This list is expanding. I just put some examples.

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Impressive for the first post.. , in fact the first +from me... welcome to the forum..

I wanted to do this many a time but going thru all of this was a time consuming thing.. so thanks for the effort..

Guys pls share ur valuable ideas..

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stockanalytic wrote:COLO
No of Shares : 4,145,089
Price 31-03-2010 : 68.25
Price 31-12-2010 : 230
Price 31-03-2011 : 300
Capital Gain for 1 year : 960.62 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 26.68/=

EBCR
No of Shares : 1343739
Price 31-03-2010 : 280/=
Price 31-12-2010 : 960/=
Price 31-03-2011 : 2498/=
Capital Gain for 1 year : 2980.4 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 82.78/=

Mull
No of Shares : 36874780
Price 31-03-2010 : 0.9/=
Price 31-12-2010 : 1.9/=
Price 31-03-2011 : 2.4/=
Capital Gain for 1 year : 55.3 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 1.53/=

YORK
No of Shares : 5911923
Price 31-03-2010 : 12.25/=
Price 31-12-2010 : 24.4/=
Price 31-03-2011 : 37/=
Capital Gain for 1 year : 146.3 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 4/=

LCEY
No of Shares : 6466984
Price 31-03-2010 : 64/=
Price 31-12-2010 : 235/=
Price 31-03-2011 : 401.5/=
Capital Gain for 1 year : 2182.6 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 60.61/=

CFI 66--> 450
No of Shares : 1227783
Price 31-03-2010 : 66/=
Price 31-03-2011 : 450/=
Capital Gain for 1 year : 4695.4 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 130/=

CIT
No of Shares : 1114882
Price 31-03-2010 : 74.75/=
Price 31-03-2011 : 420/=
Capital Gain for 1 year : 384.9 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 10.7/=

CFLB (63.5-->400)
No of Shares : 1017986
Capital Gain for 1 year : 342 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 9.4/=

Others - NTB (46M) GUAR (42M) LOLC (40M) HNB (35M) CTCE (22M) HAYL (20M) COMB (19M) CARG(19M) SINS (12M) DFCC (!@M) ALLI (10M)
This list is expanding. I just put some examples.

Rep from me for as good effort on a 1st post.

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Thanks for information. Actually, I gathered some new information from this post.

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in accounting terms at the group level subsidiary profits are already consolidated into CFLB's financial statements while at the company level CFLB cannot mark to market investments in subsidiaries. Lets face it they are not going sell all these subsidiaries so it's reasonable that subsidiary share price movements are not taken to the balance sheet.
the above is the theory but if a few brokers "sell" the story about the subsidiary share movements the CFLB price may move but end of the day subsidiary share price movements has no impact in the group accounts.

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LOLC may have better prospects in the future.

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Thank you friends for your appreciation. I am new to this forum... I am very thankful for Administrators because they are maintaining good forum with free of manipulation.

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attractive.............CFLB and related companies will move sooner........... Cool

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mark wrote:attractive.............CFLB and related companies will move sooner...........

Yes, CFLB LOLC GUAR can go up.

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Soundchips wrote:

mark wrote:attractive.............CFLB and related companies will move sooner...........

Yes, CFLB LOLC GUAR can go up.

THEY MOVING................... Very Happy

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Keep an eye on LOLC ..

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innam wrote:in accounting terms at the group level subsidiary profits are already consolidated into CFLB's financial statements while at the company level CFLB cannot mark to market investments in subsidiaries. Lets face it they are not going sell all these subsidiaries so it's reasonable that subsidiary share price movements are not taken to the balance sheet.
the above is the theory but if a few brokers "sell" the story about the subsidiary share movements the CFLB price may move but end of the day subsidiary share price movements has no impact in the group accounts.

thanks man, was wondering about that....... and so conversely, a stock that is identified as solely an investment trust does not consolidate earnings of their portfolio yeah ?

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greene wrote:

innam wrote:in accounting terms at the group level subsidiary profits are already consolidated into CFLB's financial statements while at the company level CFLB cannot mark to market investments in subsidiaries. Lets face it they are not going sell all these subsidiaries so it's reasonable that subsidiary share price movements are not taken to the balance sheet.
the above is the theory but if a few brokers "sell" the story about the subsidiary share movements the CFLB price may move but end of the day subsidiary share price movements has no impact in the group accounts.

thanks man, was wondering about that....... and so conversely, a stock that is identified as solely an investment trust does not consolidate earnings of their portfolio yeah ?

the cut off is the 50% ownership, for example GREG (identified as an investment trust for want of a better word) has to consolidate revenues/earnings etc of the subsidiaries they own more than 50% of. The consolidation is done at the group level.
Generally investment trust like GUAR or CINV will never go to own more than 50%, their stakes would be around 5-20% so those stakes can be valued at mark to market.

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mark wrote:attractive.............CFLB and related companies will move sooner...........

Already started. ..

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innam wrote:in accounting terms at the group level subsidiary profits are already consolidated into CFLB's financial statements while at the company level CFLB cannot mark to market investments in subsidiaries. Lets face it they are not going sell all these subsidiaries so it's reasonable that subsidiary share price movements are not taken to the balance sheet.
the above is the theory but if a few brokers "sell" the story about the subsidiary share movements the CFLB price may move but end of the day subsidiary share price movements has no impact in the group accounts.

Their Quoted subsidiaries are YORK, COLO, EBCR, LCEY, MARA, SIGIRIYA VILLAGE.
Investment in associates (Quoted) = CFI, CIT
capital gain due to CFI, CIT will be added with NAV of the share. With that, other investments also will give huge capital gain. {CFLB (342M)NTB (46M) GUAR (42M) LOLC (40M) HNB (35M) CTCE (22M) HAYL (20M) COMB (19M) CARG(19M) SINS (12M) DFCC (11M) ALLI (10M) .................. -lot of companies} So, Capital gain more than 160/= per share will be added in this annual report.

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stockanalytic wrote:

innam wrote:in accounting terms at the group level subsidiary profits are already consolidated into CFLB's financial statements while at the company level CFLB cannot mark to market investments in subsidiaries. Lets face it they are not going sell all these subsidiaries so it's reasonable that subsidiary share price movements are not taken to the balance sheet.
the above is the theory but if a few brokers "sell" the story about the subsidiary share movements the CFLB price may move but end of the day subsidiary share price movements has no impact in the group accounts.

Their Quoted subsidiaries are YORK, COLO, EBCR, LCEY, MARA, SIGIRIYA VILLAGE.
Investment in associates (Quoted) = CFI, CIT
capital gain due to CFI, CIT will be added with NAV of the share. With that, other investments also will give huge capital gain. {CFLB (342M)NTB (46M) GUAR (42M) LOLC (40M) HNB (35M) CTCE (22M) HAYL (20M) COMB (19M) CARG(19M) SINS (12M) DFCC (11M) ALLI (10M) .................. -lot of companies} So, Capital gain more than 160/= per share will be added in this annual report.

Are you saying CFLB are going to sell all their subsidiaries?

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tubal wrote:

Are you saying CFLB are going to sell all their subsidiaries?

I didn't mean that. In balance sheet, they will mention the current value of investments (Investments in Associates, Other Long-Term Investments) . that will come under assets. So, NAV will increase.

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stockanalytic wrote:

tubal wrote:

Are you saying CFLB are going to sell all their subsidiaries?

I didn't mean that. In balance sheet, they will mention the current value of investments (Investments in Associates, Other Long-Term Investments) . that will come under assets. So, NAV will increase.

CFLB has 36 million shares outstanding, so to get to the 160 per share capital gain that you mentioned they need show a NAV increase of 5.7 billion (160*36)......so can you please show the forum how they are going to get to 5.7 billion?

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stockanalytic wrote:
CFI 66--> 450
No of Shares : 1227783
Price 31-03-2010 : 66/=
Price 31-03-2011 : 450/=
Capital Gain for 1 year : 4695.4 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 130/=

CIT
No of Shares : 1114882
Price 31-03-2010 : 74.75/=
Price 31-03-2011 : 420/=
Capital Gain for 1 year : 384.9 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 10.7/=

CFLB (63.5-->400)
No of Shares : 1017986
Capital Gain for 1 year : 342 Million
Capital Gain per one Share : 9.4/=

Others - NTB (46M) GUAR (42M) LOLC (40M) HNB (35M) CTCE (22M) HAYL (20M) COMB (19M) CARG(19M) SINS (12M) DFCC (!@M) ALLI (10M)
This list is expanding. I just put some examples.

CFI= 130/=
CIT=10.7/=
CFLB=9.4/=
Others can give 10/=

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i don't even know why i bother but here's a math lesson.

just a common sense check.
CFLB owns 1.2 million shares of CFI, if you MULTIPLY that with the ridiculously high share price of Rs 450 YOU GET 540 million divide that with CFLB's 36 million shares the NAV per share is 15 (FIFTEEN) not the so called 130.

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innam wrote:i don't even know why i bother but here's a math lesson.

just a common sense check.
CFLB owns 1.2 million shares of CFI, if you MULTIPLY that with the ridiculously high share price of Rs 450 YOU GET 540 million divide that with CFLB's 36 million shares the NAV per share is 15 (FIFTEEN) not the so called 130.

Yes innam, some people just love to jump into trouble and drag other people along with them. They also need to understand the difference between capital gains and mark to market adjustments.

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innam wrote:i don't even know why i bother but here's a math lesson.

just a common sense check.
CFLB owns 1.2 million shares of CFI, if you MULTIPLY that with the ridiculously high share price of Rs 450 YOU GET 540 million divide that with CFLB's 36 million shares the NAV per share is 15 (FIFTEEN) not the so called 130.

Oh... sorry innam, i have taken 13 as 130. i m really asking sorry from this forum members.

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Thank you for admitting that you made a mistake.
Some people write up a load of monkey poo or pull figures out of thin air to mislead people, at least we can appreciate the effort you put into your post unlike others who make vague statements.

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Stock market is investment of hard earning money. I have mis leaded the people here with my wrong calculation. So, I am stopping to post further on this forum. I feel very sorry Guys.

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stockanalytic wrote:Stock market is investment of hard earning money. I have mis leaded the people here with my wrong calculation. So, I am stopping to post further on this forum. I feel very sorry Guys.

Please don't do that. It's great to have people here in this forum who are ready to accept when they were wrong. The majority of them do not. I take my hat off to you and hope you will continue to post.

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