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26Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:23 pm

yoyo


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

I'm in Smile

27Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:34 pm

dsam


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

me too

28Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:52 pm

limestone


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

how to define a small invester ?

29Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:00 pm

manula


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

first to define a small investor ...amount (or medium investor)... union is good idea...surely i will be in cheers

30Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:08 pm

CHASE


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Basketball I'M In too

31Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:08 pm

ipoguru


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Let's make a definition .

Portfolio value less than 50 million rupees.
Greater than 100,000 rupees. may reduce the minimum amount after discusson.

I have tried to start something similar earlier but very few agreed. Fill the attached google spread sheet to show your interest.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj1G7OfhvmLOdC1la1M3eXhwTXM2dG55bHlfWGxiblE&authkey=CJHSidED&hl=en_US#gid=0

32Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:16 pm

Surangaby

Surangaby
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

manula wrote:first to define a small investor ...amount (or medium investor)... union is good idea...surely i will be in cheers

Ok! Let's define "Small Investor".. What you guys?? First comes the "Rs" factor. We've agree on an amount in Rs. (What about 1 million?)
This seems odd at this stage! Earthquake has triggered now, Tsunami is awaiting!! We have to collect more water to make a Tsunami, and be more organized to make the wave more higher. Let's do it guyz!
Don't reply in 2-3 words! Need your precious ideas!
Need your comments please!!!!

33Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:49 pm

Genting


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Lets all get together and meet at one place. Then we can appoint few organizers and formally introduce our selves to the CSE.

I am totally in to this.

34Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:54 pm

udul


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

who will get the initiative???

35Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:03 pm

Surangaby

Surangaby
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Genting wrote:Lets all get together and meet at one place. Then we can appoint few organizers and formally introduce our selves to the CSE.

I am totally in to this.

Good! But I think it's too early for that! Didn't you noticed, most of the members still replying with 2-3 words. That means though they like this idea they've nothing to say! So would U think they'll come out? For the moment, I don't think so! But this trend is good, let it go like this for a while..

36Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:09 pm

Fresher


Moderator
Moderator

i fear it will be like all FB events. specially the one which they protested for Sanga

37Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:45 pm

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

At first we must meet at a pre announced place. Initialy we can make our own views on this and summerised report could prepared by the officials we appoint. At the next meeting we can discuss further and can take a solid decision whether we should go ahead with this priposal or not.

38Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:00 pm

Quibit


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

We are willing to support the idea and create a separate group called 'Small Investors Union'. Those who are interested could join this group and communicate among yourself and carryout activities independent to this forum.

But group should firstly define an acceptable mission and objective and there should be a committee and leader appointed by the group to oversee it's activities. Leader and committee should be responsible and answerable to the moderators of the forum with regard to the group activities.

Further this group should not be have any conflict with the overall objective of the forum and moderators of this forum should reserve the right to restrict any activities that may not be acceptable to this forum.


If you guys are in principle in agreement to the above conditions, We could create the new group. You may begin the process by firstly appointing the committee and the Leader of the Group.

Admin

39Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:10 pm

insidertrader


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Big or small, investors are all greedy and unethical creatures. They cry and blame the SEC when they lose but keep silent when or whatever manipulation or overpriced shares will give them money. As long as they are fed with money they will even sell their children. They deserve to lose money big time.

This is the same as the 'palu gey walan bidima' we see in the LOCAL media channels against the alleged videos.

40Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:15 pm

wallstreetguy


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

npp wrote:i fear it will be like all FB events. specially the one which they protested for Sanga

haha. Ths gave me a chuckle. Smile

41Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:15 pm

lokuayya


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

this must be independent from the forum,
spread the news meet in at a common place.not only forum members .
it can be organized regionally also .

this can grow in to very influential organization because there are many resourceful experienced professional,academics,businessmen,senior citizens involved .

42Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:21 pm

RichDad

RichDad
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

This is a great idea. We have knowledgeable, experienced investors in house and already we benefit a lot through this forum with knowledge sharing. If we come up with a Union we will have more bargaining power and a voice not only against malpractices of CSE and HNWIs but also we could give our suggestions to enhance the overall quality of the CSE practices such as upgrading their web site and I can list 10 more suggestions to uplift the CSE practices from the current situ sunny

It is the greatest of all mistakes to do nothing because you can only do little - do what you can.

43Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:37 pm

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Insidertrader,

Under any circumstances nothing wrong in organizing ourself as an association. We can represent sometimes Small investor Even at SEC. Not only that once we organized as small investors even media will always try to get our observations on the issues and give good publicity for our views.



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44Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:47 pm

lokuayya


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

yes , a SEC commissioner also from small investor union.

45Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:51 pm

factFINDER

factFINDER
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Rajaraam wrote:Insidertrader,Unded any circumstances nothing wrong for organizing ourself as an association. We can represent sometime Small investor Even at SEC. Not only that once we organized as small investors even media will always try to get our observations on the issues and give good publicity for our views.


True... I'm with you all.

46Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:56 pm

kavi84


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

This is a great idea.
I am with u.
cheers

47Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:33 pm

aladdin

aladdin
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

The idea is good if done with good intention. Now point to your heart and ask honestly, whether you guys and gals would have come out with a such idea if the market was on a bull run irrespective manipulation or whatsoever and if your portfolio was filling up with Rs and cents? Will anyone would raise their hands to create such a union and say we are against the manipulation and we do not need any money to be earned from such market so SEC to do something ? No right ?? I would bet not even 5% of the people who raised the hands would raise their hands on such objective. The entire this idea is coming-out just bec asue the market is down for weeks and not the comfort zone of tolerating the down trend is getting thinner and thinner. Therefore your Nurocotic brain is forcing you to find some sort of a way out at least by putting the blame on SEC.

Quibit : Your intention seems to be really in good heart manner to help the people who need to raise their voice. But please do not end yourself with 21 gun salutes on your back by blindly helping this. I do not like to see same kind of situation or troubles coming to you as happened to CSE Gossip admin as well as investnow.lk admin. Therefore always be in the safe side. My suggestions for the betterment of the site as well as your personal security are as bellow.


1. Get to know the people who raise their hands personally. Get their contact details and if possible outsource it to be checked.

2. Get some scripts done to check and store the IP addresses and the time stamp for each users post.


3. Ask for clear context of objectives, work plan, etc
4. Nominate the committee and mention that the forum is just a platform to open the voice and the forum posters should be liable to what the post. And if in case local law authority’s request, you are not hesitating to provide the details acquired at the 01 condition.

This is my personal idea and people neither need not agree with me nor think that I am 100% against with you. I feel something fishy about the original request and even with the risk of having a huge hit of negative reps, I post this for the betterment of the forum as well as Quibit.

Note : me too a small investor and would support this if above conditions are met. Prevention is better than cure.

48Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:40 pm

Academic


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

The idea alines with my mission. However, meeting physically expose our identity and may taint our ability to express objective opinions on the forum. Just my thinking!

49Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:45 pm

stumpy

stumpy
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

aladdin wrote:
The idea is good if done with good intention. Now point to your heart and ask honestly, whether you guys and gals would have come out with a such idea if the market was on a bull run irrespective manipulation or whatsoever and if your portfolio was filling up with Rs and cents? Will anyone would raise their hands to create such a union and say we are against the manipulation and we do not need any money to be earned from such market so SEC to do something ? No right ?? I would bet not even 5% of the people who raised the hands would raise their hands on such objective. The entire this idea is coming-out just bec asue the market is down for weeks and not the comfort zone of tolerating the down trend is getting thinner and thinner. Therefore your Nurocotic brain is forcing you to find some sort of a way out at least by putting the blame on SEC.

Quibit : Your intention seems to be really in good heart manner to help the people who need to raise their voice. But please do not end yourself with 21 gun salutes on your back by blindly helping this. I do not like to see same kind of situation or troubles coming to you as happened to CSE Gossip admin as well as investnow.lk admin. Therefore always be in the safe side. My suggestions for the betterment of the site as well as your personal security are as bellow.


1. Get to know the people who raise their hands personally. Get their contact details and if possible outsource it to be checked.

2. Get some scripts done to check and store the IP addresses and the time stamp for each users post.


3. Ask for clear context of objectives, work plan, etc
4. Nominate the committee and mention that the forum is just a platform to open the voice and the forum posters should be liable to what the post. And if in case local law authority’s request, you are not hesitating to provide the details acquired at the 01 condition.

This is my personal idea and people neither need not agree with me nor think that I am 100% against with you. I feel something fishy about the original request and even with the risk of having a huge hit of negative reps, I post this for the betterment of the forum as well as Quibit.

Note : me too a small investor and would support this if above conditions are met. Prevention is better than cure.

+ Rep from me sister! You've told everything in my mind!

50Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:56 pm

aladdin

aladdin
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

[quote="stumpy"]
aladdin wrote:

+ Rep from me sister! You've told everything in my mind!

its a honer stumpy. Thanks for the + Rep.

It has been a long way from minus (-26) reps to what i am today. Smile thanks for all the people who identified and encouraged with + Reps.

51Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:20 am

windi5

windi5
Moderator
Moderator

Wow what a response, this clearly shows the ambition of our lovely members in this forum to have a such institution to look after their grievances,needs and there desire to make authorities hear their important voice
I dont have exact details of the composition in the CSE, but as we all believe most of them are retailers. I hope one of our expert will intervene this discussion and define the retailer.
Some had argued in their potion of idea in this discussion about the fact that shouldering the burden at CSE.Some refused the fact that burden was carried by the retailers. My simple question is how the mkt dragged down heavily by the credit clearance if retailers were not the main contributors. I never came to know that any broker firm cleared credits obtained by institutional investments or high net worth investors. But there was an one incident where a bulk of DIMO shares were sold by a broker company as they were directed by a financial institute which had funded that particular big investor. but we all have to accept that the mkt is control by big investors and some times institutional investments, we all small investors follow them like obedient children . Today there was a good example how the CEO of SHL made that share rise and how retailers followed him.
Now in this forum we all poor small investors have been discussing several factors that we feel badly effect us.some of those factors are as follows
1. Some needed credit facilities to keep as it was earlier
2. Some were very much upset of the way that Privet placement are done
3. some had problems the way of pricing IPOs.
4. some argued about Inside dealing
5. some talked about the qualifications and experiences of the brokers
6. some worried about brokerage, some says its the highest in the world
7. some complained about the online trading systems like cdax,getting stuck when the mostly need
8. some argued of the amount of IPOs, and their bad effect to the mkt
9. some argued about unnecessary amounts warrants and some named greg as a warrant factory
10. some were not happy the way the price band is taking place, not clear about its application

so all have ideas and their suggestions but there is not a proper way that we can make authorities concern these factors before they take decisions. they consults broker firms some times but not heard our voice.

After all CSE,SEC,Broker firms are all run by our money. We pay them, their portion whether the deal is in profit or loss.We even pay the government some taxes from our hard earned money, in every deal.

So dont we have a fair right to form a institute where all our ideas and suggestions accumulate and represent?

flower

52Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:47 am

lokuayya


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Even in bull market there were genuine efforts by some courageous people against some malpractices .see all the blogs related to cse.

True that investnow and some blogs were intimidated by some powerful people .
its is the way ,those who have power usually try to silence public for various reasons.mainly to cover wrong doings.
That is why we need such a union.This union will be a union of legal experts ,administrative experts ,technical ,engineering,medical,experts etc.this kind of union cannot be intimidated.This should not be online union ,but it should be real physically man to man union.so admin of this site is free from any responsibility.of course this will not be a liking of SEC and broker community and big fish community.When such union is formed not only ip addresses ,even the birth certificate can be given to any authority or whatever because it will be real legally union.

53Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:17 am

Academic


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

lokuayya wrote:Even in bull market there were genuine efforts by some courageous people against some malpractices .see all the blogs related to cse.

True that investnow and some blogs were intimidated by some powerful people .
its is the way ,those who have power usually try to silence public for various reasons.mainly to cover wrong doings.
That is why we need such a union.This union will be a union of legal experts ,administrative experts ,technical ,engineering,medical,experts etc.this kind of union cannot be intimidated.This should not be online union ,but it should be real physically man to man union.so admin of this site is free from any responsibility.of course this will not be a liking of SEC and broker community and big fish community.When such union is formed not only ip addresses ,even the birth certificate can be given to any authority or whatever because it will be real legally union.

We can incorporate this as a non-for-profit organization, cooperative, or under consumer protection act? May not be as a trade union? Is investing/trading is an accepted self-employment in SL? (we need legal advice here please)

I also agree with the idea detaching the union from this forum so that usernames in the forum and real identity can be separated.

54Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:05 pm

ISURU

ISURU
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

windi5 wrote:How is the idea of forming an union among small investors at CSE. Our voice is rarely heard by authorities but we are the ppl who carries the CSE on our shoulders.
Yes a good idea. I'd like to become a member. flower

55Small Investor Association - Page 2 Empty Re: Small Investor Association Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:09 pm

stumpy

stumpy
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

lol! What a player! Razz

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