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Quibit
seyon
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light
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Universalgoal
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1To all CSF shareholders Empty To all CSF shareholders Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:56 pm

ishnet

ishnet
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

RIGHTS & WARRANTS ISSUE OF SHARES

http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_cse_announcements/8281320045330_.pdf

2To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:10 pm

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Is this good or bad?

3To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:15 pm

rijayasooriya

rijayasooriya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

2nd right issue in this year.What are they doing with money ?

4To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:18 pm

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Ri, this might be the reason.

http://www.cse.lk/cmt/uploadAnnounceFiles/8341319538701_368.pdf

5To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:27 pm

rijayasooriya

rijayasooriya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

swan03 wrote:Ri, this might be the reason.

http://www.cse.lk/cmt/uploadAnnounceFiles/8341319538701_368.pdf
Thanks.දෙඤ්ඤං කාසි වලට වැඩ කරනවා වගේ වැඩක් තමයි මේ right issue එකට අවසර දෙන එක

6To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:31 pm

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

rijayasooriya wrote:
swan03 wrote:Ri, this might be the reason.

http://www.cse.lk/cmt/uploadAnnounceFiles/8341319538701_368.pdf
Thanks.දෙඤ්ඤං කාසි වලට වැඩ කරනවා වගේ වැඩක් තමයි මේ right issue එකට අවසර දෙන එක

Api thamai asarana wenne Evil or Very Mad

7To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:46 pm

Azthama

Azthama
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Someone kindly let us know how this right issue impact on shareholders,,like will it be good or bad? i'm asking because i have CSF stuff avg at 21,,thanks

taniya1111


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

I also have CSF in my portfolio. I recently bought 125000 CSF avg price is 19.20 .. I still think they can turn the company around from lose making to a profit making...because they have shown an improvement but there is a huge risk...I also want to know their current position and the effect of right issue to the company and their future from experts here



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9To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:44 pm

Universalgoal


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

i think this will hand around 13 - 15 for a period unless company manupilate

10To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:55 pm

Gaja


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

taniya1111 wrote:I also have CSF in my portfolio. I recently bought 125000 CSF avg price is 19.20 .. I still think they can turn the company around from lose making to a profit making...because they have shown an improvement but there is a huge risk...I also want to know their current position and the effect of right issue to the company and their future from experts here

Well friend i am not sure what is in there mind as well as your mind, one thing i can see you decided to take a Risk with 2,400,000/= so watch the share carefully.

11To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:01 pm

light

light
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic


@ current price 16.6,
1000 shares + 250 rights = 1000 * 16.6 + 250 * 10 = 19100
cost per share = 19100 / 1250 = 15.28

current issued shares = 200 mil
after right issue = 250 mil
disillusion of price with increased share number = 16.6 * 200 / 250 = 13.28

NEED TO TAKE WARRANTS INTO ACCOUNT TOO BUT DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANALYZE THEIR EFFECT. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

12To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:57 pm

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Here comes the next rights factory.. 2 in a row Evil or Very Mad

Why they're goin for a right issue is to meet the core capital requirement of a registered finance company.. For them to do that all of us gotta be fools and apply for the Rights..
I wonder how they've run so far.. Dont know what the hell they've done with the earlier rights issue as they still strive on getting the company into profitable zone...

Then with our money they'll register and again go for another right issue to run the company Wink

I cannot say the rights are not attractive as its abt 50% discount to the prev market price.. But our investors wont be looking at this in a good angle knowing the jilmarts of this company..

I even have some shares left @ 21 but dont want any1 to fall in to the same hole I've fallen...

Suppose if the company wants to up this like last time they may buy some large qty around 15 or below..

13To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:11 pm

sirimevan

sirimevan
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

MOre Right Issues means =More Shares in the Market
More Shares in the market means =More Supply of shares to the Market
More Supply of the shares to the Market means =Less Demand in the market for the share
Less Demand in the market means =Less Value for the Share
Less Value for the share means= Losing Our Money
Losing Our Money means= We Become Poor
We Become Poor means= Others Become Rich
Others Becomes Rich means=We cecome Jelous People
We Become Jelous People Means= we go to Hell
We Go to hell Means= We burn our selfs Eternaly
Therefore investing is going to hell or rather we burn our selfs on earth and also in hell
Isnt it? Just a thought Hoping for the best and Best is always to come Never lose faith

14To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:39 pm

Auther

Auther
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

sirimevan wrote:MOre Right Issues means =More Shares in the Market
More Shares in the market means =More Supply of shares to the Market
More Supply of the shares to the Market means =Less Demand in the market for the share
Less Demand in the market means =Less Value for the Share
Less Value for the share means= Losing Our Money
Losing Our Money means= We Become Poor
We Become Poor means= Others Become Rich
Others Becomes Rich means=We cecome Jelous People
We Become Jelous People Means= we go to Hell
We Go to hell Means= We burn our selfs Eternaly
Therefore investing is going to hell or rather we burn our selfs on earth and also in hell
Isnt it? Just a thought Hoping for the best and Best is always to come Never lose faith

Haha... nice analysis dude...! lol! But that's the truth..

15To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:40 pm

rijayasooriya

rijayasooriya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

sirimevan wrote:MOre Right Issues means =More Shares in the Market
More Shares in the market means =More Supply of shares to the Market
More Supply of the shares to the Market means =Less Demand in the market for the share
Less Demand in the market means =Less Value for the Share
Less Value for the share means= Losing Our Money
Losing Our Money means= We Become Poor
We Become Poor means= Others Become Rich
Others Becomes Rich means=We cecome Jelous People
We Become Jelous People Means= we go to Hell
We Go to hell Means= We burn our selfs Eternaly
Therefore investing is going to hell or rather we burn our selfs on earth and also in hell
Isnt it? Just a thought Hoping for the best and Best is always to come Never lose faith
Only the manipulators can break ur chain.... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

16To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:15 pm

gamaya


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

sirimevan wrote:MOre Right Issues means =More Shares in the Market
More Shares in the market means =More Supply of shares to the Market
More Supply of the shares to the Market means =Less Demand in the market for the share
Less Demand in the market means =Less Value for the Share
Less Value for the share means= Losing Our Money
Losing Our Money means= We Become Poor
We Become Poor means= Others Become Rich
Others Becomes Rich means=We cecome Jelous People
We Become Jelous People Means= we go to Hell
We Go to hell Means= We burn our selfs Eternaly
Therefore investing is going to hell or rather we burn our selfs on earth and also in hell
Isnt it? Just a thought Hoping for the best and Best is always to come Never lose faith

Ha Ha , cant stop laughing

17To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:55 pm

Azthama

Azthama
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

sirimevan wrote:MOre Right Issues means =More Shares in the Market
More Shares in the market means =More Supply of shares to the Market
More Supply of the shares to the Market means =Less Demand in the market for the share
Less Demand in the market means =Less Value for the Share
Less Value for the share means= Losing Our Money
Losing Our Money means= We Become Poor
We Become Poor means= Others Become Rich
Others Becomes Rich means=We cecome Jelous People
We Become Jelous People Means= we go to Hell
We Go to hell Means= We burn our selfs Eternaly
Therefore investing is going to hell or rather we burn our selfs on earth and also in hell
Isnt it? Just a thought Hoping for the best and Best is always to come Never lose faith

Hope i got the right answer,,it's the bitter truth and make me continuous laugh,,keep it up mate Very Happy

18To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:58 am

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

sirimevan wrote:MOre Right Issues means =More Shares in the Market
More Shares in the market means =More Supply of shares to the Market
More Supply of the shares to the Market means =Less Demand in the market for the share
Less Demand in the market means =Less Value for the Share
Less Value for the share means= Losing Our Money
Losing Our Money means= We Become Poor
We Become Poor means= Others Become Rich
Others Becomes Rich means=We cecome Jelous People
We Become Jelous People Means= we go to Hell
We Go to hell Means= We burn our selfs Eternaly
Therefore investing is going to hell or rather we burn our selfs on earth and also in hell
Isnt it? Just a thought Hoping for the best and Best is always to come Never lose faith


Good one.

19To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:12 am

parackrama

parackrama
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

sirimevan wrote:MOre Right Issues means =More Shares in the Market
More Shares in the market means =More Supply of shares to the Market
More Supply of the shares to the Market means =Less Demand in the market for the share
Less Demand in the market means =Less Value for the Share
Less Value for the share means= Losing Our Money
Losing Our Money means= We Become Poor
We Become Poor means= Others Become Rich
Others Becomes Rich means=We cecome Jelous People
We Become Jelous People Means= we go to Hell
We Go to hell Means= We burn our selfs Eternaly
Therefore investing is going to hell or rather we burn our selfs on earth and also in hell
Isnt it? Just a thought Hoping for the best and Best is always to come Never lose faith

maxxaaaa lol

20To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:46 am

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

I always thank to my adviser of the CPT. He never recommended this crazy share to buy. Even though, I bought this share. So I have a small quantity and loss is small.

21To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:02 am

seyon


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

sirimevan wrote:MOre Right Issues means =More Shares in the Market
More Shares in the market means =More Supply of shares to the Market
More Supply of the shares to the Market means =Less Demand in the market for the share
Less Demand in the market means =Less Value for the Share
Less Value for the share means= Losing Our Money
Losing Our Money means= We Become Poor
We Become Poor means= Others Become Rich
Others Becomes Rich means=We cecome Jelous People
We Become Jelous People Means= we go to Hell
We Go to hell Means= We burn our selfs Eternaly
Therefore investing is going to hell or rather we burn our selfs on earth and also in hell
Isnt it? Just a thought Hoping for the best and Best is always to come Never lose faith

Ha Ha Wonderful.... sirimevan

22To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:09 am

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

sirimevan wrote:MOre Right Issues means =More Shares in the Market
More Shares in the market means =More Supply of shares to the Market
More Supply of the shares to the Market means =Less Demand in the market for the share
Less Demand in the market means =Less Value for the Share
Less Value for the share means= Losing Our Money
Losing Our Money means= We Become Poor
We Become Poor means= Others Become Rich
Others Becomes Rich means=We cecome Jelous People
We Become Jelous People Means= we go to Hell
We Go to hell Means= We burn our selfs Eternaly
Therefore investing is going to hell or rather we burn our selfs on earth and also in hell
Isnt it? Just a thought Hoping for the best and Best is always to come Never lose faith

lol!

23To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:18 am

Quibit


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Majority shareholders hoodwinked the Central Bank and got themselves shares at Rs 5/= saying that they are going resurrect the company. Then they manipulated the share price unto Rs 30/= and few of the main investors sold their shares just before company announced it's results and made substantial capital gains at the expense of the innocent retail investors. Got away without any investigation.

What happened to the Rs 800mn they raised from the earlier rights issue. Surely it would have gone to someones pocket. Now they are going to raise money again at Rs 12/= saying they require money to meet the core capital requirement. Huh warrants issue too so that they could manipulate again. CSF had a fully owned Finance company called Asian Finance which they sold it to Tiong King Sing for zero value. If this was the case why are they trying to get the licence again.

These directors must be thinking investor are set of fools and they can make them dance to their tunes. Investors all should get together and boycott this sort of clear cut attempt by companies to steal hard earn money of innocent investors.

Hope this will their last attempt to play with the monies of the innocent shareholders. After they get the Finance company license then they could start playing with the monies of the innocent depositors. One more time after great Ceylinco Finance!!

24To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:56 am

lokuayya


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

i dont have shares of this company.but i think these kind of right factories must be avoided.
some of right issues were defeated by the share holders eg mal,hnb etc.
the minority share holders should get organized and go to the meeting and fight with these directors.they may win because they have votes but things should not pass without a fight.at least you can reveal the fraudsters.
quarry what happened to the previously collected money .

25To all CSF shareholders Empty Re: To all CSF shareholders Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:30 am

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Guys u should look at this as well...

Elliot wave started in March (ORANGE color) brought this share to 32s in Mid May, then the correction started till late-mid of June.
I can be wrong, but I see a small H&S then after (RED color)..

However at the top of the head of H&S pattern there's this downward Elliot wave pattern which I've drawn separately in Green.. This pattern especially has the ability to forecast the uptrend of a share after the first five waves are completed..
However in CSE this can go to 10 even Wink

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