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WAPO pricing - I cant understand

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dmjesua
fair investor
Business Basil
Slstock
Gaja
npc86
tubal
Monster
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26WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:41 pm

mark


Expert
Expert

tubal wrote:Hey what about me? :-)
(my comment on first page) Thanks for your comments and reps on the thread I started earlier. I am fresh out of reps to give you for this thread. Will do so tomorrow.

ane sorry bro......i ddn't see..........i also can't put a rep on you........i already cast my all votes as negative on CHAMMA...........
thanks very much to you also......
and also GFTE...... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

27WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:15 am

Monster


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

WAPO is 2799/- today. Can any one guess where this WAPO will end up? Question Question Question

28WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:19 am

mark


Expert
Expert

Monster wrote:WAPO is 2799/- today. Can any one guess where this WAPO will end up? Question Question Question

will end up in 20,000?.........................ayyo.............. Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad
such these shares will form bubbles.....you pay so much for a stone thinking that it is a gem...........why people don't understand?............... Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

29WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:30 am

tubal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

What the hell is the SEC doing?

30WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:10 pm

mark


Expert
Expert

apo this WAPO and overvalued illiquid shares ruin our market.......... Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad
SEC sleeping................. Suspect Suspect Suspect Suspect

31WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:14 pm

Monster

Monster
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

mark wrote:apo this WAPO and overvalued illiquid shares ruin our market.......... Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad
SEC sleeping................. Suspect Suspect Suspect Suspect
SEC will be sleeping until the blood bath Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

32WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:40 am

Monster

Monster
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

What happend to WAPO.. Dropped dramatically to 999/-. Who ever manipulated this share dropped at 2900 level. That's what I told, don't be a victim end of the day.

33WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:43 am

Monster

Monster
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Monster wrote:What happend to WAPO.. Dropped dramatically to 999/-. Who ever manipulated this share dropped at 2900 level. That's what I told, don't be a victim end of the day.
Oops, I am sorry, It's a right issue, trading at 900/- level. I didn't notice it. :)

34WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty WAPO - Interim Report Released Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:54 am

Monster

Monster
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_report_file/612_1298894789656.pdf

Quarter EPS = (0.11)
Nine Month EPS = 0.46
NVPS = 21.25

35WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:25 pm

npc86

npc86
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

what the hell are they doing..We all @ loss.Any positive idea about to avoid such effect for our small PF..?

36WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Bloodbath Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:11 pm

tubal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Well the blood bath that monster and mark have been predicting is here, but it's with WAPO.R instead of WAPO.N

Did you notice it's trading range. 10.30 - 2500
Yes, your eyes are not deceiving you and I did type that correctly. The lowest price for WAPO.R is 10.3 At the time of writing it's trading at 450.00

37WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty WATAPOTA Rights Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:11 pm

Gaja


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

Did Carsons sold their entire Rights?

If yes who is the buyer? or its a internal transfer only?

38WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:15 pm

Gaja


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

tubal wrote:Well the blood bath that monster and mark have been predicting is here, but it's with WAPO.R instead of WAPO.N

Did you notice it's trading range. 10.30 - 2500
Yes, your eyes are not deceiving you and I did type that correctly. The lowest price for WAPO.R is 10.3 At the time of writing it's trading at 450.00

I am waiting to know the buyer, because the seller must be carsons, so is it an internal transfer?

39WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:16 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

Hope my calculation is wrong. This will blow all the Investors believing in findamentals driven market.


Say some one bought Wapo.N at RS 3000 ( for argument sake).

1) Initial cost of investment = Rs 300000

2) According to "Proportion:- Seventy Five (75) new ordinary shares for every two (02) shares held
Issue Price:- Rs.20/- "

He/She would receive = 100*75/2= 3750 rights.

3) Rights were trading as much as around rs 2000 in the morning.

For sanity let assume some one sold Rights at Rs500 each.

So Gain from rights = 3750 * 500= Rs 1875000

Total Gain = Rs 1875000- Rs 300000= Over Rs 1.5 Million!!!!


Image some one sold over Rs1000 a right!!!! Gain???

All this for a company with
Quarter EPS = (0.11)
Nine Month EPS = 0.46
NVPS = 21.25



I really hope I am mistaken else this is enough drive the investors holding fundamentals with positive earnign insane. This is CSE.

40WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:18 pm

Monster

Monster
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

WAPO.R is trading at 435/-. What will happened to those who purchased WAPO.N at 2900/- yesterday?

Look at the figures WAPO.R traded in the morning.

09:30 1,000 2,500.00
09:31 500 1,999.00
09:31 100 1,900.00
09:31 300 1,900.00
09:31 100 1,900.00
09:31 100 1,900.00
09:31 400 1,899.00
09:31 100 1,999.00
09:31 100 1,100.00
09:32 100 1,600.00
09:32 100 1,600.00
09:32 500 1,600.10
09:32 400 1,600.00
09:32 100 1,600.00
09:33 100 1,600.00
09:33 100 1,500.00

41WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:19 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

slstock wrote:Hope my calculation is wrong. This will blow all the Investors believing in findamentals driven market.


Say some one bought Wapo.N at RS 3000 ( for argument sake).

1) Initial cost of investment = Rs 300000

2) According to "Proportion:- Seventy Five (75) new ordinary shares for every two (02) shares held
Issue Price:- Rs.20/- "

He/She would receive = 100*75/2= 3750 rights.

3) Rights were trading as much as around rs 2000 in the morning.

For sanity let assume some one sold Rights at Rs500 each.

So Gain from rights = 3750 * 500= Rs 1875000

Total Gain = Rs 1875000- Rs 300000= Over Rs 1.5 Million!!!!


Image some one sold over Rs1000 a right!!!! Gain???

All this for a company with
Quarter EPS = (0.11)
Nine Month EPS = 0.46
NVPS = 21.25



I really hope I am mistaken else this is enough drive the investors holding fundamentals with positive earnign insane. This is CSE.

BTW, you can still sell original shares at Rs 2500. So your gain will be over Rs 1.8 Million.

Can you top that will any nvestoment. Over to you... I am dumb founded.

42WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:19 pm

Monster

Monster
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

tubal wrote:Well the blood bath that monster and mark have been predicting is here, but it's with WAPO.R instead of WAPO.N

Did you notice it's trading range. 10.30 - 2500
Yes, your eyes are not deceiving you and I did type that correctly. The lowest price for WAPO.R is 10.3 At the time of writing it's trading at 450.00
WAPO.N will follow

43WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:20 pm

tubal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Gaja wrote:
tubal wrote:Well the blood bath that monster and mark have been predicting is here, but it's with WAPO.R instead of WAPO.N

Did you notice it's trading range. 10.30 - 2500
Yes, your eyes are not deceiving you and I did type that correctly. The lowest price for WAPO.R is 10.3 At the time of writing it's trading at 450.00

I am waiting to know the buyer, because the seller must be carsons, so is it an internal transfer?

I guess you started your thread and I posted my reply here almost at the same time :-) 22 million rights sold. I guess you are right about carsons being the seller.

44WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:23 pm

Business Basil


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics



WAPO was trading @ about 9000.00 ( I do not know about this valuation)

After diluting by issuing 37 rights per share it should be

9000/37 = 245.00

1 Right is 20 Rupees.


At the moment WAPO and WAPO R are trading as follows:

WAPO = 2100.00

WAPO R = 430.00


9000 / 37 = 2100 ?

430 + 20 = 2100.00 ?

Anything I miss here? Can anyone help me?

45WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:24 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

Hope my calculation is wrong. This will blow all the Investors believing in findamentals driven market.


Say some one bought Wapo.N at RS 3000 ( for argument sake).

1) Initial cost of investment = Rs 300000

2) According to "Proportion:- Seventy Five (75) new ordinary shares for every two (02) shares held
Issue Price:- Rs.20/- "

He/She would receive = 100*75/2= 3750 rights.

3) Rights were trading as much as around rs 2000 in the morning.

For sanity let assume some one sold Rights at Rs500 each.

So Gain from rights = 3750 * 500= Rs 1875000

Total Gain = Rs 1875000- Rs 300000= Over Rs 1.5 Million!!!!


Image some one sold over Rs1000 a right!!!! Gain???

All this for a company with
Quarter EPS = (0.11)
Nine Month EPS = 0.46
NVPS = 21.25


I really hope I am mistaken else this is enough drive the investors holding fundamentals with positive earnign insane. This is CSE.

46WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:31 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

Business Basil wrote:

WAPO was trading @ about 9000.00 ( I do not know about this valuation)

After diluting by issuing 37 rights per share it should be

9000/37 = 245.00

1 Right is 20 Rupees.


At the moment WAPO and WAPO R are trading as follows:

WAPO = 2100.00

WAPO R = 430.00


9000 / 37 = 2100 ?

430 + 20 = 2100.00 ?

Anything I miss here? Can anyone help me?

Manipulation and Illiquidity at supreme my friend. This must be taking the Cake. Just read my post on the gain one would have made on this if a person bought 100 shares soon after rights were annouced!!! You will be schocked.

47WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:31 pm

fair investor


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

I think SEC has to cancel WAPO trading during last fewdays





Last edited by fair investor on Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:12 pm; edited 3 times in total

48WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:34 pm

dmjesua


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

hi, what do you think about price of WAPO.R?????
So much price different.



49WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:37 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

dmjesua wrote:hi, what do you think about price of WAPO.R?????
So much price different.





Manipulation and Illiquidity at supreme my friend. This must be taking the Cake. Just read my post on the gain one would have made on this if a person bought 100 shares soon after rights were annouced!!! You will be schocked.

50WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:43 pm

Monster

Monster
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

There can be price band for WAPO.R today.

51WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:55 pm

dmjesua


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Hi, Slstock, Manipulators have earned the money from our small retailers. But, What next?????? What may be the price of WAPO after Rights?? Today Rights closed at 500/=. so, if Normal share come down to this level, what will happen to the investors who bought it over 3000/=????? How many will suicide? on other hand, can we expect another manipulation of Rights to keep it more than 3000?? Really confusing share....!!!!!!

52WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:03 pm

tubal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

dmjesua wrote:Hi, Slstock, Manipulators have earned the money from our small retailers. But, What next?????? What may be the price of WAPO after Rights?? Today Rights closed at 500/=. so, if Normal share come down to this level, what will happen to the investors who bought it over 3000/=????? How many will suicide? on other hand, can we expect another manipulation of Rights to keep it more than 3000?? Really confusing share....!!!!!!

Well they will not get any sympathy from me. Only the biggest kind of fool would buy a share at 2000 when it's real value is more like 200. My signature says it all.

53WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:06 pm

tubal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

slstock wrote:
slstock wrote:Hope my calculation is wrong. This will blow all the Investors believing in findamentals driven market.


Say some one bought Wapo.N at RS 3000 ( for argument sake).

1) Initial cost of investment = Rs 300000

2) According to "Proportion:- Seventy Five (75) new ordinary shares for every two (02) shares held
Issue Price:- Rs.20/- "

He/She would receive = 100*75/2= 3750 rights.

3) Rights were trading as much as around rs 2000 in the morning.

For sanity let assume some one sold Rights at Rs500 each.

So Gain from rights = 3750 * 500= Rs 1875000

Total Gain = Rs 1875000- Rs 300000= Over Rs 1.5 Million!!!!


Image some one sold over Rs1000 a right!!!! Gain???

All this for a company with
Quarter EPS = (0.11)
Nine Month EPS = 0.46
NVPS = 21.25



I really hope I am mistaken else this is enough drive the investors holding fundamentals with positive earnign insane. This is CSE.

BTW, you can still sell original shares at Rs 2500. So your gain will be over Rs 1.8 Million.

Can you top that will any nvestoment. Over to you... I am dumb founded.

And all in a matter of two or three weeks. No wonder some of the new comers think guys like you and me are nuts when we talk about values.

54WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:11 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

tubal wrote:
dmjesua wrote:Hi, Slstock, Manipulators have earned the money from our small retailers. But, What next?????? What may be the price of WAPO after Rights?? Today Rights closed at 500/=. so, if Normal share come down to this level, what will happen to the investors who bought it over 3000/=????? How many will suicide? on other hand, can we expect another manipulation of Rights to keep it more than 3000?? Really confusing share....!!!!!!

Well they will not get any sympathy from me. Only the biggest kind of fool would buy a share at 2000 when it's real value is more like 200. My signature says it all.

More like Rs 20. See what the COmpany said in their Interim report. To Company it is worth Rs 2 at most as below. Then comes the crossing at Rs 10.3. Anyone who buy it at Rs 500 even, why do they buy it. I agree with Tubal. No sympathy for them from me too.


"The rights issue price of Rs. 20 per share approximates closely to the prevailing net asset value of the
Company, which was Rs. 21.25 per share as at 31st December 2010. When the rights issue is concluded, the
resulting net asset value per share would work out to approximately Rs. 20.05, based on the published net
asset value as at end December 2010. "

55WAPO pricing - I cant understand - Page 2 Empty Re: WAPO pricing - I cant understand Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:12 pm

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

tubal wrote:
dmjesua wrote:Hi, Slstock, Manipulators have earned the money from our small retailers. But, What next?????? What may be the price of WAPO after Rights?? Today Rights closed at 500/=. so, if Normal share come down to this level, what will happen to the investors who bought it over 3000/=????? How many will suicide? on other hand, can we expect another manipulation of Rights to keep it more than 3000?? Really confusing share....!!!!!!

Well they will not get any sympathy from me. Only the biggest kind of fool would buy a share at 2000 when it's real value is more like 200. My signature says it all.

More like Rs 20. See what the COmpany said in their Interim report. To Company it is worth Rs 2 at most as below. Then comes the crossing at Rs 10.3. Anyone who buy it at Rs 500 even, why do they buy it. I agree with Tubal. No sympathy for them from me too.


"The rights issue price of Rs. 20 per share approximates closely to the prevailing net asset value of the
Company, which was Rs. 21.25 per share as at 31st December 2010. When the rights issue is concluded, the
resulting net asset value per share would work out to approximately Rs. 20.05, based on the published net
asset value as at end December 2010. "

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