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The stock market - only a correction ?

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Appuhamy
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1 The stock market - only a correction ? Empty The stock market - only a correction ? Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:06 am

CSE.SAS

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The Stock Market - Only a Correction by R.M.B.Senanayake.
The stock market decline accelerated the week before last and some expected the worst predicting a market crash. But last week after the brokers met the president the market improved and price indices climbed as he promised to do away with credit restrictions. Presumably the forced selling will stop. But will the brokers cause another bubble? They say a market crash and a bubble are like a cloud and rain. You can have clouds without rain but you can’t have rain without clouds; bubbles are like clouds and market crashes are like the rain. Historically, a market crash has always arisen from a bubble and the thicker the clouds or the bigger the bubble, the harder it rains.

There can be no rain without clouds and similarly there can be no market crash unless there is also a bubble. But a market crash is not the same as a market correction. Market corrections are comparatively small being about 5% or so while a crash is much higher. The week before last, the All Share Price Index as well as the Milanka Price Index fell by a little over 5%. This could be considered as a market correction provided the market does not continue to fall as investors panic and sell.

What then is a bubble?

A bubble takes place when the stock prices move far above their intrinsic values or market fundamentals. It arises in the first place because investors or the large majority of them have become speculators. An investor bases his decision to buy a stock only after examining the fundamentals of the company and considering whether the price of the stock is such as to provide him a reasonable return on his investment. The returns from a stock are the dividends and theory has it that the price of a stock should reflect the sum of the discounted values of the dividends which will be paid by the company in the future.

One way of considering whether the stock is worth the price is to look at the dividend yield which is the dividend divided by the market price of the share. If the dividend yield is low the stock may be considered as overpriced. Investors look at another ratio called the Earnings Per Share and its inverse the Price Earnings Ratio. Our market PER was as high as 25 (it means that it will take 25 years to repay the investment by way of dividends if the level of earnings remain the same) when the stock market boomed in 2010. It fell to 15.1 but rose to 16 after the president agreed to remove the restrictions on credit.

What caused the bubble?

Why did the stock prices go up so high? It is because the participants in the market had become speculators and traders rather than investors. While the investor buys low and sells high the speculator buys a stock when it is moving up ( or sells a stock when it is declining hoping to buy back later at a reduced price) and takes profit when it has gone still higher. He may help the upward movement along by deliberately buying up the available quantity of the particular share in the market, expecting others to follow him. Others follow him on the herd instinct. This is helped along by brokers circulating rumors about how good the share is and how much it will move up.

There are allegations that a group of high net worth individuals deliberately pushed up the prices of certain illiquid stocks where the supply in the market at a given time is small and can be cornered. If a speculator corners such small supply he could drive its price up well above its intrinsic value. This seems to have happened and the Securities Exchange Commission apparently found such allegations credible and has investigated them.

The SEC also fixed price bands which prevented a stock from increasing above its upper band. Despite it however stocks moved up and up. But as the price shoots upwards the original speculators who hold the share will sell. But there must be buyers to buy them at these high prices. As the share price rises above its intrinsic value there will be fewer and fewer buyers. But those who bought the share originally hoping it would rise would then find it difficult to sell the shares at a profit since they bought high. There have to be new buyers who are themselves expecting the share to rise some more. But such new buyers will be fewer as a share rises in price way above its intrinsic value.

Credit driven bull market

The brokers gave credit to market participants. They seem to have given credit lavishly ignoring the necessity for equity which any prudent lender would want. There was the 50% margin rule under which a client could only borrow up to 50% of the value of his share portfolio. When the market value of the share portfolio falls the broker was expected to raise a margin call and ask the client to top up the value of his portfolio in cash. Brokers seem to have ignored these prudential limits and provided credit liberally. So with such credit the clients bought into high priced shares expecting their prices to move up further and give them a profit.

But as the supply of new clients dries up the high prices are not sustainable. Then when the brokers were required to stop credit by the Securities Exchange Commission the supply of new speculative buyers dried up instantly. It is then that the prices of the shares began to fall as the brokers had to insist on cash settlement by T+5. (Trade day plus 5). The market was suddenly converted into a cash market. When clients did not pay on T+5, the brokers had to force sell their shares and the market came down.

The SEC had also required brokers to clear debtors who had exceeded the 50% margin value of their portfolios. Brokers had to call upon their clients who were in debt to them to pay up. If they failed to pay up they would have to force sell their shares on which they had a lien. But when broker firms force sell to cover margin requirements or to comply with the SEC rule then the market has to come down. This constitutes the bursting of the bubble.

The Crash of 1929 in USA

The Great Depression of 1929 in USA was preceded by a stock market crash in Wall Street. Subsequently a Committee of the U.S Congress which investigated the crash uncovered evidence that the brokerage firms were giving unlimited credit and investors were buying on credit and reselling to obtain a profit. Many investors had turned out to be speculators rather than long term investors.

It is not known how much credit the broker firms extended to clients and how much of their debts are non-performing. Broker firms themselves are poorly capitalized and when they give unlimited credit they are really creating new money far above their liquid assets. When new buyers were induced to buy overpriced shares on the basis of rumors about their performance or other likely price sensitive events such as a take-over or a new investment by the firm, the whole scenario replicates a pyramid or Ponzi scheme. A bubble is built up on hype and it bursts when new buyers who hold for the long term dry up because the prices are too high. Then the high prices are not sustainable and they begin to decline.

A stock market which bursts can harm not only the individual investor but the economy at large. The stock market collapse of 1929 led to dole queues, soup kitchens and bank collapses. A similar crash took place in Japan in 1990 which led to years of stagnation in the economy. So it is right not to allow a bubble to form. The crash in the Golden Card Credit Company led to contagion which affected several other companies of the Ceylinco Group and to a run on other registered finance companies.

Cheap money the

underlying cause

A huge influx of money has entered the market through individual retail investors who have no understanding of economics or company fundamentals. They bought shares not as long term investors but as speculative traders. They were encouraged by the brokers to buy and sell rather than hold for the long term. The availability of unlimited credit allowed clients to buy beyond their financial capacity - over-leverage. The brokers promoted such trading since they earned commission on business volumes generated.

A crash is a significant drop in the total value of a market, almost undoubtedly attributable to the popping of a bubble, creating a situation where in the majority of investors are trying to flee the market at the same time and consequently incurring massive losses. Attempting to avoid more losses, investors during a crash are panic sellers, hoping to unload their declining stocks onto other investors and cut their losses. Hopefully there may not be panic selling now but prices may decline some more. An orderly correction is needed.

http://www.island.lk/index.php?page_cat=article-details&page=article-details&code_title=40385



Last edited by rijayasooriya on Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:27 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : title corrected and writer's name added.)

seyon


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

It is true

rijayasooriya

rijayasooriya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Very good article - Gives proper insight in to the stock market.Thanks for sharing.

4 The stock market - only a correction ? Empty Re: The stock market - only a correction ? Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:43 am

bakapandithaya

bakapandithaya
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Good one, should read all the investors, including traders

sriranga

sriranga
Co-Admin

Dec 04, 2011 (LBO) - Sri Lanka's stock market is going through a correction after being fired to record highs by credit-fuelled speculation but another bubble could be triggered by brokers seeking easier borrowing and price rules, the Sunday Island newspaper said.

The Colombo bourse has been falling in recent weeks with the decline accelerated by forced selling of shares of investors by brokers after their clients exceeded credit levels, the newspaper said.
Presumably, the forced selling will stop after stock brokers met President Mahinda Rajapaksa seeking relaxed rules on credit and price bands, said the news paper's economics columnist R M B Senanayake.

"But will the brokers cause another bubble?" he asked.

"They say a market crash and a bubble are like a cloud and rain. You can have clouds without rain but you can’t have rain without clouds; bubbles are like clouds and market crashes are like the rain.

"Historically, a market crash has always arisen from a bubble and the thicker the clouds or the bigger the bubble, the harder it rains. There can be no rain without clouds and similarly there can be no market crash unless there is also a bubble," Senanayake said.

A bubble takes place when stock prices move far above their intrinsic values or market fundamentals, he said, noting that th Colombo bourse had been sent up by speculators using money borrowed from stock brokers.

"(A bubble) arises in the first place because investors or the large majority of them have become speculators. It is because the participants in the market had become speculators and traders rather than investors. "


Senanayake said the Colombo bourse's price-to-earnings ratio had hit 25 times, meaning "it will take 25 years to repay the investment by way of dividends if the level of earnings remain the same" when the stock market boomed in 2010.
Stock market bubbles are also fuelled by brokers circulating rumors about how good certain shares are and how much they will move up, he added.

"There are allegations that a group of high net worth individuals deliberately pushed up the prices of certain illiquid stocks where the supply in the market at a given time is small and can be cornered," Senanayake said in his column.

"If a speculator corners such small supply he could drive its price up well above its intrinsic value. This seems to have happened and the Securities Exchange Commission apparently found such allegations credible and has investigated them."

However, the chairperson of the SEC Indrani Sugathadasa announced her resignation last week, just weeks after the SEC's director general Malik Cader had been forced out.

They had been probing allegations of insider dealing and market manipulation and had been under pressure from powerful investors who lobbied the government.

Senanayake of the Sunday Island said the bull run on the Colombo bourse had been credit-driven, saying brokers "seem to have given credit lavishly ignoring the necessity for equity which any prudent lender would want."

He said a "huge influx" of money has entered the market through "individual retail investors who have no understanding of economics or company fundamentals".

The availability of unlimited credit allowed clients to buy beyond their financial capacity.

"The brokers promoted such trading since they earned commission on business volumes generated," the newspaper said.

It said that, hopefully, there may not be panic selling now but prices may decline some more.

"An orderly correction is needed."
http://lbo.lk/fullstory.php?nid=262954294

http://sharemarket-srilanka.blogspot.co.uk/

6 The stock market - only a correction ? Empty Is this true,what he says Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:54 pm

Niwa


Moderator
Moderator

Sri Lanka's stock market is going through a correction after being fired to record highs by credit-fuelled speculation but another bubble could be triggered by brokers seeking easier borrowing and price rules, the Sunday Island newspaper said.
The Colombo bourse has been falling in recent weeks with the decline accelerated by forced selling of shares of investors by brokers after their clients exceeded credit levels, the newspaper said.

Presumably, the forced selling will stop after stock brokers met President Mahinda Rajapaksa seeking relaxed rules on credit and price bands, said the news paper's economics columnist R M B Senanayake.

"But will the brokers cause another bubble?" he asked.

"They say a market crash and a bubble are like a cloud and rain. You can have clouds without rain but you can’t have rain without clouds; bubbles are like clouds and market crashes are like the rain.

"Historically, a market crash has always arisen from a bubble and the thicker the clouds or the bigger the bubble, the harder it rains. There can be no rain without clouds and similarly there can be no market crash unless there is also a bubble," Senanayake said.

A bubble takes place when stock prices move far above their intrinsic values or market fundamentals, he said, noting that th Colombo bourse had been sent up by speculators using money borrowed from stock brokers.

"(A bubble) arises in the first place because investors or the large majority of them have become speculators. It is because the participants in the market had become speculators and traders rather than investors. "

Senanayake said the Colombo bourse's price-to-earnings ratio had hit 25 times, meaning "it will take 25 years to repay the investment by way of dividends if the level of earnings remain the same" when the stock market boomed in 2010.

Stock market bubbles are also fuelled by brokers circulating rumors about how good certain shares are and how much they will move up, he added.

"There are allegations that a group of high net worth individuals deliberately pushed up the prices of certain illiquid stocks where the supply in the market at a given time is small and can be cornered," Senanayake said in his column.

"If a speculator corners such small supply he could drive its price up well above its intrinsic value. This seems to have happened and the Securities Exchange Commission apparently found such allegations credible and has investigated them."

However, the chairperson of the SEC Indrani Sugathadasa announced her resignation last week, just weeks after the SEC's director general Malik Cader had been forced out.

They had been probing allegations of insider dealing and market manipulation and had been under pressure from powerful investors who lobbied the government.

Senanayake of the Sunday Island said the bull run on the Colombo bourse had been credit-driven, saying brokers "seem to have given credit lavishly ignoring the necessity for equity which any prudent lender would want."

He said a "huge influx" of money has entered the market through "individual retail investors who have no understanding of economics or company fundamentals".

The availability of unlimited credit allowed clients to buy beyond their financial capacity.

"The brokers promoted such trading since they earned commission on business volumes generated," the newspaper said.

It said that, hopefully, there may not be panic selling now but prices may decline some more.

"An orderly correction is needed."

Kithsiri

Kithsiri
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Orderly or otherwise, a correction was badly needed and it is happening now.

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Dont forgot ASI dropped from 7800 to 5800. More than 25%. This is not a correction to my view. It is a crash. Now indices are trying to move up and it needs a push. In any market after experiencing a significant market crash like this respective authorities take some supportive measures to create a path for market to rise. That is the need of the day. Luckily HE has realised this situation.
That is why some positive decisions are expected now. If we miss this oppotunity we will have to get ready for another crash by further 20-25 % and everybody's PF would come down to 30-40 %. from it's value prvailed few months ago.



Last edited by Rajaraam on Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:36 pm; edited 1 time in total

Appuhamy


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics


@ Rajaraam

Agree with you. Unfortunately some PANDITHS in SEC and this forum can't understand this fact.

10 The stock market - only a correction ? Empty Re: The stock market - only a correction ? Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:11 pm

rijayasooriya

rijayasooriya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Rajaraam wrote:Dont forgot ASI dropped from 7800 to 5800. More than 25%. This is not a correction to my view. It is a crash. Now indices are trying to move up and it needs a push. In any market after experiencing a significant market crash like this respective authorities take some supportive measures to create a path for market to rise. That is the need of the day. Luckily HE has realised this situation.
That is why some positive decisions are expected now. If we miss this oppotunity we will have to get ready for another crash by further 20-25 % and everybody's PF would come down to 30-40 %. from it's value prvailed few months ago.
Actually this is not a crash.Yes...this is a big drop but this is a bear market yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_market_crash
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_Crash_of_1929

11 The stock market - only a correction ? Empty Re: The stock market - only a correction ? Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:02 pm

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Appuhamy wrote:
@ Rajaraam th

Agree with you. Unfortunately some PANDITHS in SEC and this forum can't understand this fact.


Appuhami,
This is the time for us to go back to our village and engage in a simple economic activity which at least give us a 10% return at the end of the year. Doing business without credit in stock market is like you choose your death rather than living for some fun.

12 The stock market - only a correction ? Empty Re: The stock market - only a correction ? Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:30 pm

Auther

Auther
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Seems some people among us need a discount again for their short hunting...(බොරදියේ මාලු බාන්නට හදන අයවලුන් හදුනාගන්න...!)
but you need to understand this situation and wait for your time to hunt down them..Good time is ahead friends..!

13 The stock market - only a correction ? Empty Re: The stock market - only a correction ? Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:37 pm

Kumar

Kumar
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Those who can manage the credit facilities can go for the margin trading or brokers credit facilities.
Others are wasting the time even here in the forum.
Crying for nothing.

14 The stock market - only a correction ? Empty Re: The stock market - only a correction ? Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:46 pm

Aamiable


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

All investors have to get together and invest savings... and try to keep stock market up and green.

15 The stock market - only a correction ? Empty Re: The stock market - only a correction ? Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:25 pm

ipoguru


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Aamiable wrote:All investors have to get together and invest savings... and try to keep stock market up and green.

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