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Roboticfx wrote:2 sapumal
Approximately, 'shall' is similar to 'must'. Shall is used for future.
What does mean by subsequent to the SEC instruction ? Does SEC instruct them to stop the trade after original cut off day ? All these details are confusing.Quibit wrote:Warrant 2012 shall not trade on the trading floor of the Colombo Stock Exchange (CSE) after the 3rd of February 2012. This decision was taken by ERI voluntarily subsequent to the SEC instruction requiring company to issue further instruction to the market regarding the trading of 2012 Warrants.
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Quibit wrote:Warrant 2012 shall not trade on the trading floor of the Colombo Stock Exchange (CSE) after the 3rd of February 2012. This decision was taken by ERI voluntarily subsequent to the SEC instruction requiring company to issue further instruction to the market regarding the trading of 2012 Warrants.
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greedy wrote:Quibit wrote:.....This decision was taken by ERI voluntarily subsequent to the SEC instruction requiring company to issue further instruction to the market regarding the trading of 2012 Warrants......
This was not a voluntary decision as GREG says. GREG wanted their Warrants 2012 to be traded on the CSE during the extended period too (i.e until 6 Sept 2013). But SEC refused but allowed to extend the expiration period to 6 Sept 2013.
SEC should not have allowed this extension as it is unfair on the parts of Minority ordinary shareholders as well as other minority warrant holders.
rijayasooriya wrote:What does mean by subsequent to the SEC instruction ? Does SEC instruct them to stop the trade after original cut off day ? All these details are confusing.Quibit wrote:Warrant 2012 shall not trade on the trading floor of the Colombo Stock Exchange (CSE) after the 3rd of February 2012. This decision was taken by ERI voluntarily subsequent to the SEC instruction requiring company to issue further instruction to the market regarding the trading of 2012 Warrants.
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1. Here is the 1st annoucement by GREG:-
http://www.cse.lk/cmt/uploadAnnounceFiles/7761325821678_782.pdf
It clearly says that W2 would trade on 6th september 2013.Of course it also says that special resolution for the aforesaid variation has to be pass on the EGM on 1st Feb 2012.If GREG does this double game purposely they should be investigated and required action should be taken.
2. On the otherhand here are the new announcements:-
http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_cse_announcements/4791328090905_.pdf
In this announcement highlighted part clearly says,
"The Direction of the SEC was that the proposed extension of the expiration date of 2012 warrants may be allowed with the approval of the shareholders subject however to the restriction on trading of the said warrants in the secondary market within such extended period from 24th February 2012 to 26th september 2013...."
This statement clearly indicates that it is due to SEC directive that trade will be restricted....
3. Furthur to that here is the latest announcement:-
http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_cse_announcements/1241328172630_.pdf
It also says,
"Accordingly we wish to inform that the warrants 2012 shall not,in terms of the SEC Directive No.SEC/LEG/12/01/19 trade on the trading floor of the CSE after the 3rd of February 2012."
This also clearly says it is due to SEC directive but...
Look at the date of that directive it is 12/01/19.Does this mean that both SEC and GREG company has known about this disaster ?
All this drama is very dirty and absolutely no any transparency.They are trying to pass the ball to each other.
If SEC has acted in honorouble manner in this bussiness they can announce a investigation on this matter.
Chinwi wrote:greedy wrote:Quibit wrote:.....This decision was taken by ERI voluntarily subsequent to the SEC instruction requiring company to issue further instruction to the market regarding the trading of 2012 Warrants......
This was not a voluntary decision as GREG says. GREG wanted their Warrants 2012 to be traded on the CSE during the extended period too (i.e until 6 Sept 2013). But SEC refused but allowed to extend the expiration period to 6 Sept 2013.
SEC should not have allowed this extension as it is unfair on the parts of Minority ordinary shareholders as well as other minority warrant holders.
Very Correct. I also have the same view about the extension.
If they did not allow the extension -of payment date- minority shareholders may pay at least some % as per they can and major portion of warrants may get cancelled due to inability of the major shareholders to execute.
With this, dilution of N share will be very much less and value of N will be preserved.
Now, most of the minors sold their W at very low prices and ran off from the seen.
Big people got additional one and half years to collect money. Some others got the unexpected chance to collect W at near zero cost price. Usually they have projected cash flows from other sources. During this time they can also put N to a better position.
Mekath GREG thawath sellamak da danne naha.
greedy:
P.S. I'm not affected by GREG's saga
greedy wrote:Warrants can be either "In the money" or "Out of the money" at the exercise date. But, if all companies which have issued warrants to public start to extend the exercise date when they find out that warrants are out of money.... then what is the point? This will lead warrants/share options to lose its basic characteristics.
I guess the minority ordinary shareholders and the holders of Warrants 2014 and Warrants 2015 have a point to take this matter to some commercial courts (If I'm not wrong.. some legal experts will know).
P.S. I'm not affected by GREG's saga
sanjaya351 wrote:Dear all,
Pls let us know will there be any change in the future about this issue - May be some connected parties taking legal action ?
Will it Trade again ?
If not why People are collecting it ?
Experts your comments ?
hariesha wrote:sanjaya351 wrote:Dear all,
Pls let us know will there be any change in the future about this issue - May be some connected parties taking legal action ?
Will it Trade again ?
If not why People are collecting it ?
Experts your comments ?
It's really interesting if someone goes to courts. In Sri Lanka the problem is so far no one challenged the blunders, either by the companies or regulators. In this case, all set of events were questionable. (Please refer my earlier comment.) I think people should come forward and challenge these decisions. Otherwise the confidence in the market will be lost. Look at last twelve months. All of a sudden SEC decided to restrict credit. Some investors got affected as they sold or forced to sell. But couple of months later they relax the rules. Who is responsible for the damage? Shouldn't we really worry about the consistency of the regulator?
Some commissioners publicly said, market is overvalued. But the same people promoted the market in rural areas, and put all the innocent people in trouble. If they are thinking the market is overvalued, why they promoted it to the less savvy people?
hariesha wrote:greedy wrote:Warrants can be either "In the money" or "Out of the money" at the exercise date. But, if all companies which have issued warrants to public start to extend the exercise date when they find out that warrants are out of money.... then what is the point? This will lead warrants/share options to lose its basic characteristics.
I guess the minority ordinary shareholders and the holders of Warrants 2014 and Warrants 2015 have a point to take this matter to some commercial courts (If I'm not wrong.. some legal experts will know).
P.S. I'm not affected by GREG's saga
I am also not in favor of extensions. But at the moment all the warrants in the market are "Out of Money". These extensions started with W1, and if it's not allowable, SEC should have taken it as a policy decision or as a rule, which will effective for future warrant issues. But at the moment directors can recommend to shareholders and warrant holders to extend the life of warrants. If shareholders and warrant holders can approve it by passing a resolution in an EGM, under current regulations it's valid they do have every right to do so.
.Quibit wrote:I am sure GREG may have the same destiny of VANIK, it's debentures and warrants. Only time will tell us!!!!
soileconomy wrote:.Quibit wrote:I am sure GREG may have the same destiny of VANIK, it's debentures and warrants. Only time will tell us!!!!
I may further add something ,
Lionheart may exit even at very low levels .may be their cost is less than Rs 10 .
Ultimately our retailers will hold till it gets wind up.
Not to get panic ,but to think further .........
Quibit wrote:I am sure GREG may have the same destiny of VANIK, it's debentures and warrants. Only time will tell us!!!!
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