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Profit fall a wakeup call

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aj
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1Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Profit fall a wakeup call Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:49 am

sriranga

sriranga
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Despite a select few reporting highest-ever profits, the combined figure of 210 companies which have released their financials so far reveals a concerning trend.

The cumulative earnings for the quarter ended on 31 December 2011 was Rs. 40.6 billion, up by only 0.56% year-on-year according to broking sources who have tracked corporate results. The 210 includes almost all major companies including big commercial banks which all released their fourth quarter results this week.

Some said the downward trend was apparent from a few quarters earlier. For example, the September 2011 quarter earnings showed a lower 14.4%, down from 36% growth in the preceding quarter and 72% in June quarter. However, on a quarter-on-quarter basis, earnings had declined by 15% in September 2011 comparison to a 7.5% QoQ drop in the second (June) quarter of 2011.

Analysts said that the trend was worrisome and exposed the underlying deteriorating conditions in the overall macroeconomic setting.

“The December 2011 quarter data confirms the trend and even when full computation of all listed companies results are factored in, negative growth is likely. This reinforces the fact that the post-war momentum is fizzling off and growth prospects will be flat unless the economy and the private sector re-engineer themselves,” they added.

It was emphasised that with the natural end-of-war-stimulus ending, companies must expand capacity and efficiency.

“Therein lies the true challenge for the Government and the private sector. Given the current situation, with the uncertain exchange and interest rate regime, as well as costs rising following the revision of fuel and energy and other prices, the scope for improved earnings is bleak,” they added.

“It is important for the Government to realise the true health of the economy and the macroeconomic fundamentals and accordingly take appropriate action rather than fire-fighting or doing patchwork, which often borders around inconsistent policies and tinkering,” analysts warned.

Most commentators have faulted the Government for its misjudgement and resultant mismanagement of certain macroeconomic fundamentals, including reserves, credit and consumer demand growth. Eventually an artificially-high currency had to be brought down to earth, i.e. devalued. Even after realisation of the true status quo, the Government’s policy response and action have been inconsistent and contradictory and at times included policy reversals.

“All these are sending wrong signals from the economic front,” analysts warned.

They also opined that the larger danger was further misjudegment or mismanagement, which could see the crisis spiralling out of control.

This is something the Government must avoid especially when the global situation remains fragile. “There is an urgent need for honest assessment of the realities and taking of serious and credible action,” it was emphasised.

Analysts recalled that in November the Government took the view that the true value of the rupee was Rs. 113, but come a few months later after some policy inconsistencies, the rupee value had deteriorated to the Rs. 123 level to the dollar. This major lapse in judgment only fuels further speculation in forex markets and the talk of the exchange rate hitting Rs. 130 looks credible.

Wednesday’s revision of outlook and ratings by Standard and Poor’s as well as concerns expressed by Fitch on top of other global economists reinforces the underlying problem the Lankan economy faces, analysts said.

Despite the gloom-and-doom forecast, other analysts remain optimistic that the country still has scope to remain robust largely on the basis that there is no war, which destroyed growth and wealth, apart from other negativities.

“The country has hardly harnessed its true potential as well as vast new resources and opportunities following the end of the conflict three years ago. If this is done, the envisaged 8% growth is possible despite shocks,” they argued, despite adding that such dynamism would require some decent policy framework and consistency apart from business-friendly facilitation.

Another key take from the current apparent unfertile environment is the fact that in the first two financial years since the end of the conflict, the private sector had feasted on profits by way of hefty dividends rather than investing in the future. Those who had retained earnings were also slow to reinvest. Another criticism against the private sector is its lack of foresight in correctly reading economics and failure to be prepared for reversal of good times.
http://www.ft.lk/2012/03/02/profit-fall-a-wakeup-call/

http://sharemarket-srilanka.blogspot.co.uk/

2Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:36 am

Kumar

Kumar
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Analysts said that the trend was worrisome and exposed the underlying deteriorating conditions in the overall macroeconomic setting.
Thanks for posting.

3Profit fall a wakeup call Empty A wake up call Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:05 am

illuminati


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Financial Times 2/3/12

Despite a select few reporting highest-ever profits, the combined figure of 210 companies which have released their financials so far reveals a concerning trend.
The cumulative earnings for the quarter ended on 31 December 2011 was Rs. 40.6 billion, up by only 0.56% year-on-year according to broking sources who have tracked corporate results. The 210 includes almost all major companies including big commercial banks which all released their fourth quarter results this week.
Some said the downward trend was apparent from a few quarters earlier. For example, the September 2011 quarter earnings showed a lower 14.4%, down from 36% growth in the preceding quarter and 72% in June quarter. However, on a quarter-on-quarter basis, earnings had declined by 15% in September 2011 comparison to a 7.5% QoQ drop in the second (June) quarter of 2011.
Analysts said that the trend was worrisome and exposed the underlying deteriorating conditions in the overall macroeconomic setting.
“The December 2011 quarter data confirms the trend and even when full computation of all listed companies results are factored in, negative growth is likely. This reinforces the fact that the post-war momentum is fizzling off and growth prospects will be flat unless the economy and the private sector re-engineer themselves,” they added.
It was emphasised that with the natural end-of-war-stimulus ending, companies must expand capacity and efficiency.
“Therein lies the true challenge for the Government and the private sector. Given the current situation, with the uncertain exchange and interest rate regime, as well as costs rising following the revision of fuel and energy and other prices, the scope for improved earnings is bleak,” they added.
“It is important for the Government to realise the true health of the economy and the macroeconomic fundamentals and accordingly take appropriate action rather than fire-fighting or doing patchwork, which often borders around inconsistent policies and tinkering,” analysts warned.
Most commentators have faulted the Government for its misjudgement and resultant mismanagement of certain macroeconomic fundamentals, including reserves, credit and consumer demand growth. Eventually an artificially-high currency had to be brought down to earth, i.e. devalued. Even after realisation of the true status quo, the Government’s policy response and action have been inconsistent and contradictory and at times included policy reversals.
“All these are sending wrong signals from the economic front,” analysts warned.
They also opined that the larger danger was further misjudegment or mismanagement, which could see the crisis spiralling out of control.
This is something the Government must avoid especially when the global situation remains fragile. “There is an urgent need for honest assessment of the realities and taking of serious and credible action,” it was emphasised.
Analysts recalled that in November the Government took the view that the true value of the rupee was Rs. 113, but come a few months later after some policy inconsistencies, the rupee value had deteriorated to the Rs. 123 level to the dollar. This major lapse in judgment only fuels further speculation in forex markets and the talk of the exchange rate hitting Rs. 130 looks credible.
Wednesday’s revision of outlook and ratings by Standard and Poor’s as well as concerns expressed by Fitch on top of other global economists reinforces the underlying problem the Lankan economy faces, analysts said.
Despite the gloom-and-doom forecast, other analysts remain optimistic that the country still has scope to remain robust largely on the basis that there is no war, which destroyed growth and wealth, apart from other negativities.
“The country has hardly harnessed its true potential as well as vast new resources and opportunities following the end of the conflict three years ago. If this is done, the envisaged 8% growth is possible despite shocks,” they argued, despite adding that such dynamism would require some decent policy framework and consistency apart from business-friendly facilitation.
Another key take from the current apparent unfertile environment is the fact that in the first two financial years since the end of the conflict, the private sector had feasted on profits by way of hefty dividends rather than investing in the future. Those who had retained earnings were also slow to reinvest. Another criticism against the private sector is its lack of foresight in correctly reading economics and failure to be prepared for reversal of good times.

4Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:15 am

K.Haputantri

K.Haputantri
Co-Admin

Thanks Illuminati for sharing.

5Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:14 am

wiki


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Thanks .. you have mention these things sometime ago if my memory is correct

6Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:05 am

sriranga

sriranga
Co-Admin

Posts merged.

http://sharemarket-srilanka.blogspot.co.uk/

7Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:33 pm

sapumal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Again FT publishing a expert view of unnamed expert
Why profit falls ? Are they know why ?
Is the profit from core business is hitting or one time gains are hitting

8Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:42 pm

chamith

chamith
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

2011 core business meeting, the 2010 core business + other profit ???

9Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:51 pm

aj


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

If you take the bank and financial sector which must be the largest group in the CSE, their profits rose last year due to tax cuts, the growth contribution from that won't be repeating again and can be thought of as a one time contribution to growth.



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10Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:52 pm

mono

mono
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

The lack of substantial gains is a little worrying but, i there have been a lot of one off gains and losses to mitigate these results. DIST suffer a 1bn one off loss this quarter. BOTH SAMP & BRWN had 1bn one off gains last year. Those results make substantial changes to the overall profitability. We should also look at plantation results in isolation as well.

I think the overall profits for september 2011 was around 38bn the December one is 40.6 so QoQ things have improved. But this article has omitted this.

11Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:59 pm

aj


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

What happens when new companies get listed? Are those profits deducted from the total when comparing the total billions?

12Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:04 pm

mono

mono
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

aj wrote:What happens when new companies get listed? Are those profits deducted from the total when comparing the total billions?

this list doesn't have new companies. it's comparison between old companies

13Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:01 pm

K.Haputantri

K.Haputantri
Co-Admin

This slowdown should be viewed in the background of expansion drive by most companies at present. THE RESULTS COULD BE SEEN ONLY IN THE FUTURE. Hence, this should not be taken seriously.

14Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:26 pm

econ

econ
Global Moderator

future is not that good for sl firms. moreover, overall macroeconomic condition getting worse day by day..

15Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:28 pm

mono

mono
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

econ wrote:future is not that good for sl firms. moreover, overall macroeconomic condition getting worse day by day..

can i hold you to that six months from now. Very Happy

16Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:31 pm

econ

econ
Global Moderator

mono wrote:
econ wrote:future is not that good for sl firms. moreover, overall macroeconomic condition getting worse day by day..

can i hold you to that six months from now. Very Happy

yes of course..

17Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:56 pm

wiki


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

econ wrote:future is not that good for sl firms. moreover, overall macroeconomic condition getting worse day by day..

But experts says recent policy changes (though not popular) helps to bring stability..

18Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:20 am

chamith

chamith
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

mono wrote:The lack of substantial gains is a little worrying but, i there have been a lot of one off gains and losses to mitigate these results. DIST suffer a 1bn one off loss this quarter. BOTH SAMP & BRWN had 1bn one off gains last year. Those results make substantial changes to the overall profitability. We should also look at plantation results in isolation as well.

I think the overall profits for september 2011 was around 38bn the December one is 40.6 so QoQ things have improved. But this article has omitted this.

Last year most of the companies had massive profit from trading shares.
This year they have massive losses from trading.
The point is 2010 was exceptionally good year, but now we dont have that luxury and this is the profit of the core business of these companies. So core business profit has grown to match the 2010's exceptionally good profits, if you know what i mean. drunken

19Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:46 am

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

chamith wrote:

Last year most of the companies had massive profit from trading shares.
This year they have massive losses from trading.
The point is 2010 was exceptionally good year, but now we dont have that luxury and this is the profit of the core business of these companies. So core business profit has grown to match the 2010's exceptionally good profits, if you know what i mean. drunken

Yes, Chamith we can look at things from a different angle. `Looking at core profit growth over several years will show the strength of the company than looking at YoY fluctuations due to Other income( specially with dealing shares, goodwill, revaluation). The thing is if there is a YoY Core growth and potential for future growth due to expansions and acquisitions these short term issues will improve over longterm. ( atleast for some companies). Also certain companies invested in growth this year. It will take time for them to break even or gain profit from those investments and ovehead costs



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20Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:01 am

Slstock

Slstock
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

econ wrote:future is not that good for sl firms. moreover, overall macroeconomic condition getting worse day by day..
Econ, how do you define future ? 6 months from now or 1 to 2 years from now.
Yes this year can be volatile for Sri Lanka and CSE. The world and sri lanka problems will not remain forever unless we have no faith that things tend to eventually work or even out. Just trying to keep optimistic that things change sometimes for the better. (Hmm, I saw someone predicting the world end is near. Also there was predicted last year but it did not happen. only thing I am worried about is war which some humans create for their own selfish needs and end while many other suffer due to it)

21Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:21 am

mono

mono
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

in 2009 inflation 18%, interest rates on FDs were hitting 20%& yeild curves were inverted. People need to understand what a crisis is.

22Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:20 pm

gamaya


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Funny thing is all media experts predict doom and gloom when things have gone wrong. When all are high everything is going fine, we were almost at miracle of asia.

Having said that, this gov.ts only prospective cash generator is tourism. There is no strategy in any other area.

23Profit fall a wakeup call Empty Re: Profit fall a wakeup call Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:24 pm

gamaya


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Funny thing is all media experts predict doom and gloom when things have gone wrong. When all are high everything is going fine, we were almost at miracle of asia.

Having said that, this gov.ts only prospective cash generator is tourism. There is no strategy in any other area.

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