Safe or Unsafe shares

wallstreetguy · 1 Safe or Unsafe shares Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:38 pm

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Do these shares have potential growth for a short -long term investment?.
They seem to be a good choice,

KHL.N, LGL.X, JKH.N, NTB.N, DIST.N, AHUN.N, SPEN.N, SEYB.X, UBC.N, LIOC.N

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zazu · 2 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:40 pm

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@wallstreetguy
I bet no one can come up with the safest and not so safest share in the market.

I'll tell you a good example I had a friend who in November bought JKH for 325 thinking it was a safe option, 3 months later he sold the same share for 283, mind you he bought in large quantity. Now he wonders where all the fundamental talks and blue chip company is? So my friend there is no such thing called safe and unsafe. You have to take risk, it might come out well, or it might not.

Cheers

RockStock · 3 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:31 pm

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Investing in shares itself is a high risk option than other conventional investment options, So gaining more and more knowledge and experience is the key to reduce the intrinsic risk of the Equity investment, in contrast other investment options you don't need to have much knowledge ,eg, if you save in FD you get the due interest despite of you knowledge on finance.

In Zazu's example, I think JKH was way much overvalued at 325 at that time and even now.It is trading more thas P/E of 35.Buying a Blue chip stock per se won't give you higher return, some times a penny share would give you much higher return than a share like JKH during the above mentioned time period.On the other hand a share like JKH might have future growth and will be good as a long term investment, so that a long term player will enter JKH and forget about it for some years and might end up with decent return.

It is vital to understand the time span of your investment,i.e long term,medium term,short term or ultra short term/day trading and select the most suitable stocks for that time period accordingly, Which I believe Zazu's friend failed at.

I think the lesser the knowledge and experince you have on this game, the longer term investment option you should adopt, in order to become a winner. At the same time higher the knowledge and experience you have higher the gain you can get.

wallstreetguy · 4 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:46 pm

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Agreed with both comments. i believe in long term investment, since i'm 18 and new to the game and catching up with it.

As I have learnt, always invest money which your willing to risk, but as I have monitored the market, some players dont go according to the rule. If investors learn and apply what Warren Buffet says, then people wouldnt have a much risk and would do well.

Rule No.1: Never lose money, Rule No.2 Never forget rule no. 1.

As Zazu mentioned, its always the risk taking factor. And the player shoudl know to calculate the risks.

" I think the lesser the knowledge and experince you have on this game, the longer term investment option you should adopt, in order to become a winner. At the same time higher the knowledge and experience you have higher the gain you can get "- Rock Stock, well said.

I know less at the moment, but I know investors should have a good entering time and a exit strategy, such as buy stocks, when there is a bearish run, but our peoples physcological factor is processing differently.

Why I chose these stocks are for simple understanding of the business ,current enviroment and economy

KHL.N0000 , AHUN.N0000- Tourist Boom in the near future, future growth?
LGL.X0000- CPC sold 50% of LPG, future growth ?
LIOC.N0000- News sources tell me Oil prices are going to go sky high in the near future. future growth?
UBC.N0000- Its a bank it has growth potential. future growth?

Am I getting somewhere, or am I lost ? Very Happy

smallville · 5 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:00 pm

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Believe me or not KHL is a dead deal.. unless u wanna keep this share for the next 5 yrs expecting a miracle.. if u want hotels, I think CONN, TAJ, HUNA are better pics.. And UBC is trading at a PE multiplication of 40+ now.. unless u hope CEO can do miracles, there are plenty more banks with higher potential like SAMP, NTB, for long term COMB, DFCC..

So ur not that lost.. but u'll be if you dont start doing some analysis.. Mind u, reading topics covered on this forum can lead you to some extend... but since ur new dont touch illiquids with higher risk/ higher gain... Many could be discussed here but forget abt those until u learn the market behavior, crowd thinking, etc..

Wat RockStock has earlier mentioned could be highly useful..

Its good to go behind simple understandable business with in a sector where further growth is expected.. Poultry is one such sector, constructions is another one.. Now do more studies for a start Wink

UKboy · 6 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:44 am

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Excellent posts by both Smallville & Rockstock. If you are a beginner willing to learn, these posts provides much needed advise.

Bear in mind in this forum some people are trying hard to push already valued shares to the next level.
When you ask the question what is the potential? Most will say "X" number of new projects in coming years.
Agreed
Almost all the listed companies are expanding. This is true for companies like DIST, SAMP, JKH or companies like GREG or PHAR.

But they simply forget that SOME of these companies already valued for future projects. Unless you think 40-1000 PE value of a company is acceptable (I'm not talking about the companies in investment trusts sector).
At the same time some companies showing very low P/E values. This could be due to just one off capital gain.

Vinu · 7 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:18 am

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Agreed with smallville,KHL is only the name and almost dead.Still people have a faith on big name and waiting for a miracle in unkown future bearing huge oppertunity cost.Threre are many opportunites in BAF sector rather investing on UBC.To me MBSL has huge potentials and very good investement compare to its avarage price in BAF sector

Aamiable · 8 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:37 am

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Very safe invetments. KHL.N, LGL.X, JKH.N, NTB.N, DIST.N, AHUN.N, SPEN.N, SEYB.X, UBC.N, LIOC.N found to be safe investments. up and down movement was very little. now recovering. good long term investments. one day they can go up.

3mr · 9 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:08 am

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I agree that KHL is a dead share. I had some and had to wait for a long time to sell it with very little gain. Look at the price movement. It hardly has any movement.

Food sector would be much better. Of you compare poultry stocks they are trading at attractive P/E ratio. Only thing that I have observed in BFL is that crowd interest can be seen certain times and then it has a very high momentum. Try to go against the crowd and properly time your buy/sell decisions.

I am not an expert, this is my experience. Take your own decisions.

thanks

wallstreetguy · 10 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:21 pm

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well it seems like KHL has some negative reviews. How come, they performing well, they have many hotels all over the country and maldives.
maybe good things take time i guess and it will move later.

Cheers for all the previous comments.

Where can I get historic information about the stocks other than CSE. i cannot sign up because they admin told me that they are on maintainence.

Slstock · 11 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:09 pm

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wallstreetguy wrote:well it seems like KHL has some negative reviews. How come, they performing well, they have many hotels all over the country and maldives.
maybe good things take time i guess and it will move later.

Cheers for all the previous comments.

Where can I get historic information about the stocks other than CSE. i cannot sign up because they admin told me that they are on maintainence.

KHL has being stagnant for over an year. Many people had bad experiences holding this share. Last quarter khl reproted signed of financial recovery. best to watch what next quarter is like.

In answer to "Where can I get historic information about the stocks other than CSE. i cannot sign up because they admin told me that they are on maintainence. "

goto :

www.slstock.com

login with : guest
password : guest

it seems to be down also now. But try again later
it is free

smallville · 12 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:01 pm

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KHL may have so many hotels under it but its not moving.. thats the reality.. Same like DIAL.. DIAL has a larger market cap but its mostly .20-.30 cents increase/decrease a week and the same trend continues..

MY point is; rather than waiting for a miracle to happen u can get rid of it at a good time with a small loss and that loss even could be turned to a 'no loss' if you pick the right stocks next..

Vinu · 13 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:21 pm

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To my knowlege, if anyone only expecting devidents by investing share market, then its much better you put you money in fixed deposit without taking any risk by investing on shares.

mark · 14 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:27 am

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Vinu wrote:To my knowlege, if anyone only expecting devidents by investing share market, then its much better you put you money in fixed deposit without taking any risk by investing on shares.

agree..........but it's even profitable to get the dividend when comparing to current interest rates....... Sad

Monster · 15 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:10 am

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Aamiable wrote:Very safe invetments. KHL.N, LGL.X, JKH.N, NTB.N, DIST.N, AHUN.N, SPEN.N, SEYB.X, UBC.N, LIOC.N found to be safe investments. up and down movement was very little. now recovering. good long term investments. one day they can go up.

I think LIOC is better investment for medium term. But I do not this it's a best selection for long term. Because it's growth is completely depends on govement policies. I too hold some LIOC shares in my portfolio which I collected below NAV price.

wallstreetguy · 16 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:47 pm

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NTB.N (Nations Trust Bank), HHL.N (Hemas Holdings),DIST.N (Distilleries)

Are these good shares for long term, or will it take futher dips.

Are they on their peak?

ShareShares · 17 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:28 pm

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In a way they are all good shares , liquid slow rising, all depend on the type of investors , some prefer to buy some shares and forget them for 6 months , after some time they see that prices have gone up slowly. Some others expect rapid growth. I always keep some of those shares on a medium to long term basis. Actually they are safer options. Individual preferences are different, stock market need all types of investors.

wallstreetguy · 18 Re: Safe or Unsafe shares Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:24 pm

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comb.x seyb.x ntb.n ubc.n
ahun.n reef.n taj.n
hhl.n spen.n rich.n

i calculated the p/e ratio for each of these shares, and they seems to be alrite.?

But i'm little abit confused. If the P/E Ratio is high? Is it a growth stock or undervalued stock.

Your opinions on theses above stocks will be appreciated.

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