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Neural Network Approach for Market Prediction : Inputs

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wmdcf
Genting
wikum100
mono
yoyo
godswen
smallville
StocksWatch
Chinwi
Slstock
Quibit
mark
milanka
xhora
Dileepa
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Dileepa


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

slstock wrote:
Are you training on overall CSE data a set or just on a single company ?

If one company just an example:
To test you could add
a) +5% increase on a share split annoucement day
b) -4% drop on 2 days afterwards
b) + 5% on the day the shares have been split
c) - 4% on day follow the split

Again these numbers can vary but giving you an idea.

For Dividend you could have 2% share price increase as an example on the annoucement date , then a 1% drop the next few days etc..You get the idea

You could test and see.

For the time being thought of concentrating on BFI sector (to be specifically NTB).
Attached file is a screen shot of sample test data.
(sorry about the colors, had to make it mono due to upload limit)
And thanks for the suggestion, will post some more results again Smile

yoyo


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Good work Dileepa. + Rep from me. Keep up ur good work.

mono


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

keep the H, L, O, C, volume & ASI + maybe MPI

Everything else is useless.

wikum100


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

good work deelipa ,eventhough i coudnt understand much of it it seems your are trying to do a marvelous work it fully succes...wish you all very best +rep from me to your hard work Very Happy

wikum100


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Chinwi wrote:
Quibit wrote:I simply do not understand the concept and the charts. What are you trying to do? I only can see a JPG file, No program or a software. Can any one of the expert help me to understand this!

Neural Networks are basics of Artificial Intelligence. The programmers try to mimic actual world relations as far as possible in the model developed inside the computer.

More relations and interactions you can think and include in the system will bring it closer to functioning of our brain and produce better results. I think you can write the program to do self adjustments or fine tune when the system is fed with more and more actual data comparing its own predictions.

In Dileepa's program Green line is the predicted out put while
Magenta line represents the actual data of NTB.
With the time, he can fine tune the program to make the two lines closer and closer.


thanks for your nice explanation ..now i got understood +rep from me

Genting


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Dileepa

Nice work!

Can I know, after training, what are the weights you ended up for those inputs?

I also tried design similar thing but realizes that this stock market is 99% irrational!


wmdcf

wmdcf
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Good work!
I'm also did some kind of same thing(few month back), but end up with big losses. Smile
I think we need to find some other SE other than CSE to test this.

JennyFunny


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

could some explain how you do this?

Dileepa


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

mono wrote:keep the H, L, O, C, volume & ASI + maybe MPI

Everything else is useless.

Is the opening val equal to the previous day closing?
if both are same, closing only will be enough I think Exclamation

Dileepa


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Genting wrote:Dileepa

Nice work!

Can I know, after training, what are the weights you ended up for those inputs?

I also tried design similar thing but realizes that this stock market is 99% irrational!


Actually weights are not that important, it is the network design which matters I think.
I used a feed forward back propagation network with one hidden layer containing 13 neurons.

Dileepa


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

wmdcf wrote:Good work!
I'm also did some kind of same thing(few month back), but end up with big losses. Smile
I think we need to find some other SE other than CSE to test this.

sorry about your losses, training the network is equally important as the design.
can you tell about the data and training process you followed.
At first,
I trained the system with 200 data records for 10,000 cycles, but the accuracy wasn't that great.
Then I used 400 records and trained only for 3000 cycles, but it reached 80%++ level of accuracy.
Random behavior is a problem, but NN can cope it with some fine tuning.
(by the way you should have posted your findings at the first place,
so that others will not have to travel the same path again)


samueldaniel7


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

can we have a copy of it

http://samueldaniel7.blogspot.com

Dileepa


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

samueldaniel7 wrote:can we have a copy of it
All the data I'm using was collected from central bank and stocksyn.(available online)
I will receive that CSE data CD soon. I may be able to upload the content once I received that.

samueldaniel7


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

sorry i was asking about the neural network script, did you make it or did you download it from anywhere,
if you dont mind can we have a copy

http://samueldaniel7.blogspot.com

Dileepa


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

samueldaniel7 wrote:sorry i was asking about the neural network script, did you make it or did you download it from anywhere,
if you dont mind can we have a copy
I'm not familiar with java much, so there won`t be a script.
Still I`m trying to get the design correct.
Currently modeling it using NN design software (NN designer etc.)
Will code it using C/C++ later on, but first I want to make sure it worth a shot.
If you are interested, below design is the one I'm trying to fine tune.
(though it is really dumb for the moment rendeer)
Neural Network Approach for Market Prediction : Inputs - Page 2 Networ10

samueldaniel7


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Thanks a lot

http://samueldaniel7.blogspot.com

Ben Graham

Ben Graham
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

nice work dileepa. + rep from me too.

san1985

san1985
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Great work buddy....Keep up ur good work..

But i dont know to what extent this would work in CSE...

If u can add manipulation as a variable this would certainly work......

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