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Re-introducing broker's credit?

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1Re-introducing broker's credit? Empty Re-introducing broker's credit? Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:02 pm

RockStock


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Sri Lanka stock brokers call for margin accounts as core business
June 19, 2011 (LBO) - Sri Lanka's stock brokers should be allowed to give margin accounts to clients (credit) based on their capital but they should have better risk management and monitoring systems, market participants said.
Sri Lanka's Securities and Exchange Commission stopped broker credit last year amid speculative bubble-like trading and fears of defaults which may cause a broker to go under or the overall market collapse from a higher peak.

Brokers have been given time till the end of the year to clear credit accounts. They have been given the nod to operate margin accounts through a separately capitalized legal entity.

But brokers say transferring securities to separate accounts was cumbersome, costly and was not business friendly to their customers.

Beyond Plain Vanilla

SEC's surveillance director Chandu Epitawala said the decision to separate margin accounts were made as the regulator determined that lending was not a core function of a broker.

But Murtaza Jafferjee, head of JB Securities said lending to clients was a legitimate revenue opportunity for broking firms.
He said Sri Lanka's fees were narrowing and brokers had create business by moving to new areas.

Arittha Wickremanayake, a former director general of Sri Lanka's securities and exchange commission agrees.

"Small broking firms give plain vanilla services," Wickremanayake said. "Larger brokers push for more activity with higher levels of capital."

He said the regulator should look at a model where margin accounts were allowed based on their liquid capital using a risk weighted model tied to capital.

Tushan Wickremasinghe, head of Capital Trust Securities said brokers should at least be allowed to advance money to clients at least to the amount of their capital.

He said broking firms were required to have capital of only 35 million rupees, but some had excess capital of several hundred millions.

"This belongs to the shareholders of the company," he said. "They can take that money out and do anything they like, so why not give credit to the market. Brokers should be allowed to give credit at least without leveraging."

He says small investors were the clients who most needed money.

Margin regulation

Devanesan Evanson, a former market supervision officer of the Malaysian Stock Exchange said brokers were allowed to advance credit to customers provided there was 150 percent collateral, meaning that the leverage was less than one.

If collateral fell below 130 percent, (maintenance margin) a call had to be made to the customer to top it up or force sell securities to meet the shortfall. Brokers also had to furnish daily returns to the exchange and track client accounts electronically.

In the United States brokers give either cash accounts or margin accounts. Margins are only 50 percent in the US meaning that the initial deposit could be leveraged once.

However the maintenance margin can fall to 25 percent. In the US equity margin accounts are governed by the Federal Reserve's so called 'regulation T'.

The Fed put limits on margin trading after it fired a massive economic and stock bubble in the 1920s which collapsed and triggered the great depression.

SEC director general Malik Cader said they were examining the issue, but broking firms and the Colombo Stock Exchange had to have software and a risk management system prevent over-trading.

The SEC had twice extended its deadline for clearing broker credit, creating some unhappiness among brokers and customers who had complied with the first deadline.

Market participants also warned that broker net capital had to be raised as trading volumes were not high and the one-size-fits-all 35 million rupee capital no longer made sense.

Some of the capital was also not liquid but tied up in land, fixed assets and even intangible assets, they said.

http://www.lbo.lk/fullstory.php?nid=1615376481

2Re-introducing broker's credit? Empty Re: Re-introducing broker's credit? Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:09 pm

Prince

Prince
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Bro .

No business can run longer without credit. That's the simplest idea.

3Re-introducing broker's credit? Empty Re: Re-introducing broker's credit? Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:12 pm

aladdin

aladdin
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Prince wrote:Bro .

No business can run longer without credit. That's the simplest idea.

agreed. Even at a tea kade credit is there fore day trading..lolz.. at least hawasata enakan credit denawa udeta gatha banis gediye.. hiks

4Re-introducing broker's credit? Empty Re: Re-introducing broker's credit? Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:58 pm

wiki


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

I prefer to get margin from the broker company rather than from a margin provider, simply because of convenience.
And investors with small portfolios are struggle to get margin trading facility from a margin provider. they are asking big portfolios.

It is evident that CSE is lacks fund to push up. Ether it need credit or foreign funds to have a healthy bull run. You cant invest whole EPF in CSE.... but credit need to be well regulated.

5Re-introducing broker's credit? Empty Re: Re-introducing broker's credit? Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:03 pm

ShareShares


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Yes, Need to have limits and regulations

6Re-introducing broker's credit? Empty Re: Re-introducing broker's credit? Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:36 pm

aladdin

aladdin
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

wiki wrote:I prefer to get margin from the broker company rather than from a margin provider, simply because of convenience.
And investors with small portfolios are struggle to get margin trading facility from a margin provider. they are asking big portfolios.

It is evident that CSE is lacks fund to push up. Ether it need credit or foreign funds to have a healthy bull run. You cant invest whole EPF in CSE.... but credit need to be well regulated.

For sure CSE will be facing a problem with sufficient funds due to massive number of IPO's to come. As i know around 55 more to come. How can this small CSE face such amount in one years time unless foreign money comes in or big fish comes in.

7Re-introducing broker's credit? Empty Re: Re-introducing broker's credit? Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:54 pm

ShareShares


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Time to come all will be like Senkada finance. investors opt for the Market .

8Re-introducing broker's credit? Empty Re: Re-introducing broker's credit? Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:50 am

Meta Trader

Meta Trader
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

pumping up the house of card again ?

9Re-introducing broker's credit? Empty Re: Re-introducing broker's credit? Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:16 am

UKboy

UKboy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Meta Trader wrote:pumping up the house of card again ?


Oh nooo.. Market PE is already over 25 & why on earth we need plastic money any longer?

If our small investors stop buying Hi-cap counters for unrealistic prices this market will be very attractive.

Stupid brokers. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

10Re-introducing broker's credit? Empty Re: Re-introducing broker's credit? Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:22 am

UKboy

UKboy
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics


Tushan Wickremasinghe, head of Capital Trust Securities said brokers should at least be allowed to advance money to clients at least to the amount of their capital.


WTF...!!!!! Is he mad Question

I was not too sure earlier but now I think I did a right thing to withdraw 20% of my PF

11Re-introducing broker's credit? Empty Re: Re-introducing broker's credit? Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:53 am

stumpy

stumpy
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

I guessed this kind of situation. Those days brokers got at least 18% (15-20%) per year on buying power trades.

12Re-introducing broker's credit? Empty Re: Re-introducing broker's credit? Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:31 pm

Tiger

Tiger
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

CSE should stop all kinds of credit, including margin credit. Market is like a crazy horse now, retail investors expect shares to go up by huge margins over night without any fundermental reason. Market cannot go on like this for ever, very soon we will see sorry saga of many investors who tried to play with their life long earnings.

Either CSE should allow the market learn the lessons the hard way or it should do something. I think they are following the latter path.

13Re-introducing broker's credit? Empty Re: Re-introducing broker's credit? Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:37 pm

stumpy

stumpy
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Tiger wrote:CSE should stop all kinds of credit, including margin credit. Market is like a crazy horse now, retail investors expect shares to go up by huge margins over night without any fundermental reason. Market cannot go on like this for ever, very soon we will see sorry saga of many investors who tried to play with their life long earnings.

Either CSE should allow the market learn the lessons the hard way or it should do something. I think they are following the latter path.


You're correct bro! I don't wanna see a big correction soon. but...how can we do investing with these buggers... Wink

14Re-introducing broker's credit? Empty Re: Re-introducing broker's credit? Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:32 pm

Tiger

Tiger
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

stumpy wrote:
Tiger wrote:CSE should stop all kinds of credit, including margin credit. Market is like a crazy horse now, retail investors expect shares to go up by huge margins over night without any fundermental reason. Market cannot go on like this for ever, very soon we will see sorry saga of many investors who tried to play with their life long earnings.

Either CSE should allow the market learn the lessons the hard way or it should do something. I think they are following the latter path.


You're correct bro! I don't wanna see a big correction soon. but...how can we do investing with these buggers... Wink

I believe sooner or later some form of Broker credit will be allowed, because at the end of the day Brokers and CSE are run by kith and kin.

15Re-introducing broker's credit? Empty Re: Re-introducing broker's credit? Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:56 pm

kam2011


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

wiki wrote:I prefer to get margin from the broker company rather than from a margin provider, simply because of convenience.
And investors with small portfolios are struggle to get margin trading facility from a margin provider. they are asking big portfolios.

It is evident that CSE is lacks fund to push up. Ether it need credit or foreign funds to have a healthy bull run. You cant invest whole EPF in CSE.... but credit need to be well regulated.

I too agree with yiu wiki. But the problem would be since the brokers credit is more convenient compared to margin credit people will be panic to buy some shares which are not realy worth following so called rallies. When they use the margin credit people are very much concern for timely settlement.

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