CTCE share holders get 1000 per share

glad wrote:

ruwan326 wrote:

Ryan Hudson wrote:@MRF I would accept the offer but always need to remember challenge is less treaded path

Yup very good offer @ 1000/=

Sell it and invest in the next best in line 

Pl Suggest any best in line

@glad

Since 2011 you are here in this forum you must be an expert

I am planing to invest in HASU, do your own analysis before you pick and invest

ruwan326 wrote:

glad wrote:

ruwan326 wrote:

Ryan Hudson wrote:@MRF I would accept the offer but always need to remember challenge is less treaded path

Yup very good offer @ 1000/=

Sell it and invest in the next best in line 

Pl Suggest any best in line

@glad

Since 2011 you are here in this forum you must be an expert

I am planing to invest in HASU, do your own analysis before you pick and invest

Thanks R.
I also think I am an expert(in losing).
Thought HASU and UAL has already moved up, unless some new news comes out.
Will keep my ears 'up' for any news.

HNB Assuarance (HASU)
Amongst all insurance companies, HASU is one of the top, with fantastic performance and with better than bank FD rates of return to the investors.

5 Year Company Performance Summary

	2012-2017 5 year CAGR
Gross Written Premium	19%
Net Profit after tax	21%
Earnings per Share	21%
Net Asset Value per Share	15%
Dividend per Share	17%

  Note:- CAGR- Compounded Annual Growth Rate


Example of Investment Rate of Return of an investor who bought in 2013 1st quarter, after XD and sells in April/May 2018 after XD

Purchase 1,000 shares@  47/80 per share	Sell@ Rs. 102/- per share +All Dividends Received	Compounded 5 Year  Annual Rate of Investment Return to  the Investor
Assumed Total Purchase  Cost Rs.49,000/-	Total Rs. 118,000/-	19%

Current Factors in Consideration
1. It appears there will be a minimum of Rs. 10/- Dividend in Feb/Mar 2019 (Refer their latest earnings reports)
2. Allianz seem to be eyeing HNBA General. If that move materializes, that definitely will be at a premium price similar to their buy over of Janashakthi General from JINS.

DS Wijesinghe wrote:HNB Assuarance (HASU)
Amongst all insurance companies, HASU is one of the top, with fantastic performance and with better than bank FD rates of return to the investors.

5 Year Company Performance Summary

	2012-2017 5 year CAGR
Gross Written Premium	19%
Net Profit after tax	21%
Earnings per Share	21%
Net Asset Value per Share	15%
Dividend per Share	17%

  Note:- CAGR- Compounded Annual Growth Rate


Example of Investment Rate of Return of an investor who bought in 2013 1st quarter, after XD and sells in April/May 2018 after XD

Purchase 1,000 shares@  47/80 per share	Sell@ Rs. 102/- per share +All Dividends Received	Compounded 5 Year  Annual Rate of Investment Return to  the Investor
Assumed Total Purchase  Cost Rs.49,000/-	Total Rs. 118,000/-	19%

Current Factors in Consideration
1. It appears there will be a minimum of Rs. 10/- Dividend in Feb/Mar 2019 (Refer their latest earnings reports)
2. Allianz seem to be eyeing HNBA General. If that move materializes, that definitely will be at a premium price similar to their buy over of Janashakthi General from JINS.

Thanks,

What about CINS -Hasnt this share given excellent returns ?

Agape wrote:What about CINS -Hasnt this share given excellent returns ?

It has. An investor who bought CINS @ closing price of 2012 and selling after the 2018 Dividends would have earned a Compounded 17% Annual Rate of Return on the investment. Well above the bank FD rates during this perioid

Performance Summary of Ceylinco 2012-2017

	2017	2012	5 year CAGR
GWP	Rs. 34.6 Bn	Rs. 22.6 Bn	9%
NP after tax	Rs. 11.8 Bn	Rs. 2.1 Bn	41%
EPS	Rs. 437.06	Rs. 74	43%
NAVPS	Rs. 1428.9	Rs. 525	22%
DPS	Rs. 31.50	Rs. 12.50	20%

 Note 1. :- CAGR- Compounded Annual Growth Rate
 Note 2 :- 2017 NP After Tax & EPS are including 
               One Off surplus of Rs. 3.5 Bn 
               
 Example of an Investor buying 1,000 shares in 2012 @ closing price of Rs. 855/90 per share and  Selling after receiving dividends in 2018 @ Rs. 1,750/- per share

Purchase Cost	Sales proceeds +Dividends	Compounded Annual rate of return on Investment
Rs. 855,900/-	Rs. 1,867,000/-	17%

Medium to Long Term Considerations

Sri Lanka's insurance penetration is far far below compared to many other countries in Asia and other developed nations. When the industry expands, as a giant in the industry Ceylinco should perform very well and reward their shareholders/investors handsomely in the medium to long term

DS Wijesinghe wrote:

Agape wrote:What about CINS -Hasnt this share given excellent returns ?

It has. An investor who bought CINS @ closing price of 2012 and selling after the 2018 Dividends would have earned a Compounded 17% Annual Rate of Return on the investment. Well above the bank FD rates during this perioid

Performance Summary of Ceylinco 2012-2017

	2017	2012	5 year CAGR
GWP	Rs. 34.6 Bn	Rs. 22.6 Bn	9%
NP after tax	Rs. 11.8 Bn	Rs. 2.1 Bn	41%
EPS	Rs. 437.06	Rs. 74	43%
NAVPS	Rs. 1428.9	Rs. 525	22%
DPS	Rs. 31.50	Rs. 12.50	20%

 Note 1. :- CAGR- Compounded Annual Growth Rate
 Note 2 :- 2017 NP After Tax & EPS are including 
               One Off surplus of Rs. 3.5 Bn 
               
 Example of an Investor buying 1,000 shares in 2012 @ closing price of Rs. 855/90 per share and  Selling after receiving dividends in 2018 @ Rs. 1,750/- per share

Purchase Cost	Sales proceeds +Dividends	Compounded Annual rate of return on Investment
Rs. 855,900/-	Rs. 1,867,000/-	17%

Medium to Long Term Considerations

Sri Lanka's insurance penetration is far far below compared to many other countries in Asia and other developed nations. When the industry expands, as a giant in the industry Ceylinco should perform very well and reward their shareholders/investors handsomely in the medium to long term

Foreign Buying In Ceylinco Insurance, share up by Rs. 247/-

CSE closed higher Wednesday with turnover propped up by block deals as foreign investors bought into Ceylinco Insurance while there was continued foreign selling in John Keells holdings (JKH), brokers said.

The All Share Price Index closed at 6,120.69, up 3.06 points (0.05%) while the more liquid SP SL20 index rose 26.15 points (0.80%) to close at 3,312.53. Turnover was Rs968 million.

Asia Securities said crossings or block deals accounted for 43% of turnover with two crossings each in Ceylinco Insurance and Sampath Bank and one in JKH.

Foreign investors were net buyers of Rs576 million worth of shares, with estimated net foreign buying highest in Ceylinco Insurance, which closed at Rs1,997.80, up Rs247 (14.11%).

Estimated net foreign selling was mainly in JKH which closed at Rs141, up Rs4.50 (3.30%).

DS Wijesinghe wrote:

DS Wijesinghe wrote:

Agape wrote:What about CINS -Hasnt this share given excellent returns ?

It has. An investor who bought CINS @ closing price of 2012 and selling after the 2018 Dividends would have earned a Compounded 17% Annual Rate of Return on the investment. Well above the bank FD rates during this perioid

Performance Summary of Ceylinco 2012-2017

	2017	2012	5 year CAGR
GWP	Rs. 34.6 Bn	Rs. 22.6 Bn	9%
NP after tax	Rs. 11.8 Bn	Rs. 2.1 Bn	41%
EPS	Rs. 437.06	Rs. 74	43%
NAVPS	Rs. 1428.9	Rs. 525	22%
DPS	Rs. 31.50	Rs. 12.50	20%

 Note 1. :- CAGR- Compounded Annual Growth Rate
 Note 2 :- 2017 NP After Tax & EPS are including 
               One Off surplus of Rs. 3.5 Bn 
               
 Example of an Investor buying 1,000 shares in 2012 @ closing price of Rs. 855/90 per share and  Selling after receiving dividends in 2018 @ Rs. 1,750/- per share

Purchase Cost	Sales proceeds +Dividends	Compounded Annual rate of return on Investment
Rs. 855,900/-	Rs. 1,867,000/-	17%

Medium to Long Term Considerations

Sri Lanka's insurance penetration is far far below compared to many other countries in Asia and other developed nations. When the industry expands, as a giant in the industry Ceylinco should perform very well and reward their shareholders/investors handsomely in the medium to long term

Foreign Buying In Ceylinco Insurance, share up by Rs. 247/-

CSE closed higher Wednesday with turnover propped up by block deals as foreign investors bought into Ceylinco Insurance while there was continued foreign selling in John Keells holdings (JKH), brokers said.

The All Share Price Index closed at 6,120.69, up 3.06 points (0.05%) while the more liquid SP SL20 index rose 26.15 points (0.80%) to close at 3,312.53. Turnover was Rs968 million.

Asia Securities said crossings or block deals accounted for 43% of turnover with two crossings each in Ceylinco Insurance and Sampath Bank and one in JKH.

Foreign investors were net buyers of Rs576 million worth of shares, with estimated net foreign buying highest in Ceylinco Insurance, which closed at Rs1,997.80, up Rs247 (14.11%).

Estimated net foreign selling was mainly in JKH which closed at Rs141, up Rs4.50 (3.30%).

We saw how blue chips fall apart.......... JKH,SAMP etc

So think twice before enter

ruwan326 wrote:

DS Wijesinghe wrote:

DS Wijesinghe wrote:

Agape wrote:What about CINS -Hasnt this share given excellent returns ?

It has. An investor who bought CINS @ closing price of 2012 and selling after the 2018 Dividends would have earned a Compounded 17% Annual Rate of Return on the investment. Well above the bank FD rates during this perioid

Performance Summary of Ceylinco 2012-2017

	2017	2012	5 year CAGR
GWP	Rs. 34.6 Bn	Rs. 22.6 Bn	9%
NP after tax	Rs. 11.8 Bn	Rs. 2.1 Bn	41%
EPS	Rs. 437.06	Rs. 74	43%
NAVPS	Rs. 1428.9	Rs. 525	22%
DPS	Rs. 31.50	Rs. 12.50	20%

 Note 1. :- CAGR- Compounded Annual Growth Rate
 Note 2 :- 2017 NP After Tax & EPS are including 
               One Off surplus of Rs. 3.5 Bn 
               
 Example of an Investor buying 1,000 shares in 2012 @ closing price of Rs. 855/90 per share and  Selling after receiving dividends in 2018 @ Rs. 1,750/- per share

Purchase Cost	Sales proceeds +Dividends	Compounded Annual rate of return on Investment
Rs. 855,900/-	Rs. 1,867,000/-	17%

Medium to Long Term Considerations

Sri Lanka's insurance penetration is far far below compared to many other countries in Asia and other developed nations. When the industry expands, as a giant in the industry Ceylinco should perform very well and reward their shareholders/investors handsomely in the medium to long term

Foreign Buying In Ceylinco Insurance, share up by Rs. 247/-

CSE closed higher Wednesday with turnover propped up by block deals as foreign investors bought into Ceylinco Insurance while there was continued foreign selling in John Keells holdings (JKH), brokers said.

The All Share Price Index closed at 6,120.69, up 3.06 points (0.05%) while the more liquid SP SL20 index rose 26.15 points (0.80%) to close at 3,312.53. Turnover was Rs968 million.

Asia Securities said crossings or block deals accounted for 43% of turnover with two crossings each in Ceylinco Insurance and Sampath Bank and one in JKH.

Foreign investors were net buyers of Rs576 million worth of shares, with estimated net foreign buying highest in Ceylinco Insurance, which closed at Rs1,997.80, up Rs247 (14.11%).

Estimated net foreign selling was mainly in JKH which closed at Rs141, up Rs4.50 (3.30%).

We saw how blue chips fall apart.......... JKH,SAMP etc

So think twice before enter

Certainly not a good option for a short term trader/speculator/cheap promoter who is always in a mighty hurry to make a quick buck at the shortest time possible and the most within a quarter. A cheap promoter will buy penny stocks at a price and then try to move the price up by creating artificial hypes and then exit the stock after making quick money.

In other words Ruwan buys penny stocks  @ 4/- or 5/50 and then highly promote the stocks to fellow form members to try and push the prices up and sell them back to other forum members at a higher price and make a quick buck. Other forum members would probably buy at higher prices, the price points which Ruwan will exit.

We all should invest in value stocks when they are under priced in any given market condition.

Also speculators and traders generally tend to make profits during bull markets(when the market is moving up) and not during bear markets(when the market is sluggish or going down)

DS Wijesinghe wrote:

ruwan326 wrote:

DS Wijesinghe wrote:

DS Wijesinghe wrote:

Agape wrote:What about CINS -Hasnt this share given excellent returns ?

It has. An investor who bought CINS @ closing price of 2012 and selling after the 2018 Dividends would have earned a Compounded 17% Annual Rate of Return on the investment. Well above the bank FD rates during this perioid

Performance Summary of Ceylinco 2012-2017

	2017	2012	5 year CAGR
GWP	Rs. 34.6 Bn	Rs. 22.6 Bn	9%
NP after tax	Rs. 11.8 Bn	Rs. 2.1 Bn	41%
EPS	Rs. 437.06	Rs. 74	43%
NAVPS	Rs. 1428.9	Rs. 525	22%
DPS	Rs. 31.50	Rs. 12.50	20%

 Note 1. :- CAGR- Compounded Annual Growth Rate
 Note 2 :- 2017 NP After Tax & EPS are including 
               One Off surplus of Rs. 3.5 Bn 
               
 Example of an Investor buying 1,000 shares in 2012 @ closing price of Rs. 855/90 per share and  Selling after receiving dividends in 2018 @ Rs. 1,750/- per share

Purchase Cost	Sales proceeds +Dividends	Compounded Annual rate of return on Investment
Rs. 855,900/-	Rs. 1,867,000/-	17%

Medium to Long Term Considerations

Sri Lanka's insurance penetration is far far below compared to many other countries in Asia and other developed nations. When the industry expands, as a giant in the industry Ceylinco should perform very well and reward their shareholders/investors handsomely in the medium to long term

Foreign Buying In Ceylinco Insurance, share up by Rs. 247/-

CSE closed higher Wednesday with turnover propped up by block deals as foreign investors bought into Ceylinco Insurance while there was continued foreign selling in John Keells holdings (JKH), brokers said.

The All Share Price Index closed at 6,120.69, up 3.06 points (0.05%) while the more liquid SP SL20 index rose 26.15 points (0.80%) to close at 3,312.53. Turnover was Rs968 million.

Asia Securities said crossings or block deals accounted for 43% of turnover with two crossings each in Ceylinco Insurance and Sampath Bank and one in JKH.

Foreign investors were net buyers of Rs576 million worth of shares, with estimated net foreign buying highest in Ceylinco Insurance, which closed at Rs1,997.80, up Rs247 (14.11%).

Estimated net foreign selling was mainly in JKH which closed at Rs141, up Rs4.50 (3.30%).

We saw how blue chips fall apart.......... JKH,SAMP etc

So think twice before enter

Certainly not a good option for a short term trader/speculator/cheap promoter who is always in a mighty hurry to make a quick buck at the shortest time possible and the most within a quarter. A cheap promoter will buy penny stocks at a price and then try to move the price up by creating artificial hypes and then exit the stock after making quick money.

In other words Ruwan buys penny stocks  @ 4/- or 5/50 and then highly promote the stocks to fellow form members to try and push the prices up and sell them back to other forum members at a higher price and make a quick buck. Other forum members would probably buy at higher prices, the price points which Ruwan will exit.

We all should invest in value stocks when they are under priced in any given market condition.

Also speculators and traders generally tend to make profits during bull markets(when the market is moving up) and not during bear markets(when the market is sluggish or going down)

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While markets inevitably fluctuate, investors will "ride out" the downtrends with the expectation that prices will rebound and any losses will eventually be recovered. Investors are typically more concerned with market fundamentals, such as price/earnings ratios and management forecasts.

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Trading profits are generated through buying at a lower price and selling at a higher price within a relatively short period of time. The reverse is also true: trading profits are made by selling at a higher price and buying to cover at a lower price (known as selling short) to profit in falling markets. Where buy-and-hold investors wait out less profitable positions, traders must make profits (or take losses) within a specified period of time, and often use a protective stop loss order to automatically close out losing positions at a predetermined price level. Traders often employ technical analysis tools, such as moving averages and stochastic oscillators, to find high-probability trading setups.

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Position Trader - positions are held from months to years.
Swing Trader - positions are held from days to weeks.
Day Trader - positions are held throughout the day only with no overnight positions.
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Traders often choose their trading style based on factors including: account size, amount of time that can be dedicated to trading, level of trading experience, personality and risk tolerance.

Both investors and traders seek profits through market participation. In general, investors seek larger returns over an extended period through buying and holding. Traders, by contrast, take advantage of both rising and falling markets to enter and exit positions over a shorter time frame, taking smaller, more frequent profits.

Well, DS this part is for your consideration:D "Both investors and traders seek profits through market participation" not charity work

So the news as you may know is that CTCE.N failed to pass one of its resolution that is to repurchase the shares at LKR1000/= . The Co failed to get the required 75percent of votes of the shareholders.


So what happens next any speculations ;P

The trading suspension will need to be lifted\share price will shoot up closer to 1,000 and all who purchased on insider information will sell-that is what will happen next

When will the trading suspension be lifted any idea ?? Or will the Co. Offer a better deal lol ?

MRF wrote:When will the trading suspension be lifted any idea ?? Or will the Co. Offer a better deal lol ?

Probably next week trading will start

Thanks. So no 1000/= or no better deal... as far as I am aware there motive is to by hook or crook get delisted

MRF wrote:Thanks. So no 1000/= or no better deal... as far as I am aware there motive is to by hook or crook get delisted

Better wait and see, insiders already collected might dump and end of the month near

ruwan326 wrote:

MRF wrote:Thanks. So no 1000/= or no better deal... as far as I am aware there motive is to by hook or crook get delisted

Better wait and see, insiders already collected might dump and end of the month near

Trading suspension will be lifted by the 28th once the SEC gives approval
Lokka1

Really have they released information on it ? Any link ?

Good news! SEC gave the approval today. It will start trading tomorrow.
Lokka1

Have they announced it on the cse website

lokka1 wrote:Good news! SEC gave the approval today. It will start trading tomorrow.
Lokka1

What a timing to hear this

LIFTING OF TRADING SUSPENSION
31 August 2018