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Is It Real run ?

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CSE.SAS
insidertrader
Kumar
Ananth
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1Is It Real run ? Empty Is It Real run ? Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:35 pm

Ananth


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

One of my adviser said ->

The reason for this grow in ASI is there are no active bad manipulators / big investors in the market now and it will be until January. it is very difficult to bring the Market in the earlier state until the bad manipulators are active and Now the Medium players are showing their power and keep it grow every day.
Now My question is If all the Players come again What will Happen ? Will it go down based on the competition or Will it go up rapidly ?

-Ananth

2Is It Real run ? Empty Re: Is It Real run ? Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:12 pm

Kumar

Kumar
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Ananth wrote:One of my adviser said ->

The reason for this grow in ASI is there are no active bad manipulators / big investors in the market now and it will be until January. it is very difficult to bring the Market in the earlier state until the bad manipulators are active and Now the Medium players are showing their power and keep it grow every day.
Now My question is If all the Players come again What will Happen ? Will it go down based on the competition or Will it go up rapidly ?

-Ananth
Market sentiment seems to be maintained by retail customers.
I think we need to wait and see the situation.
But next couple of days market will be green with the help of Heavy weight Shares.

3Is It Real run ? Empty Re: Is It Real run ? Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:13 pm

insidertrader


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

By advisor I assume you mean the title given to your broker. Smile

There's no truth in the stories like big players are on vacation etc. Big players are there 365 days and 24 hours. If they see potential they will invest even if it's summer holidays or 1:00 AM in the morning in their time zone. Our advisors told few days ago that the foreign investors are coming. They were coming all right. Smile But they're selling like crazy. Not junk but fundamental stocks at bargain prices. Smile

Now this is the view. Most of the local investors think big players are on vacation. Shares are at bargain prices. Market will rally from January. They don't want to miss the January rally.

Now this is what happens. Market transactions thinned out. Manipulators went into action. They pumped up every share couple of rupees everyday. Because there are no transactions it was easy. So it looked like all the indicators are green. Local investors see this. They think they will be too late for that January rally. They think they will miss the rally. So they start buying. This is where we are. Now on sometimes couple of hundred shares market goes up and up. Today's green was mainly due to BUKI, CARS family of shares. But soon this local investor money will thin out. And these local investors will be looking for making profits in January. So we have sellers waiting. But who is going to buy? These days you can see the fundamental shares being sold in millions by the foreign investors. Did anything happen in the last few days in the companies for a 1% rise everyday? Nope. It was pumping up by the manipulators and the local investors picking up after that.

4Is It Real run ? Empty Re: Is It Real run ? Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:16 pm

CSE.SAS

CSE.SAS
Global Moderator

insidertrader wrote:By advisor I assume you mean the title given to your broker. Smile

There's no truth in the stories like big players are on vacation etc. Big players are there 365 days and 24 hours. If they see potential they will invest even if it's summer holidays or 1:00 AM in the morning in their time zone. Our advisors told few days ago that the foreign investors are coming. They were coming all right. Smile But they're selling like crazy. Not junk but fundamental stocks at bargain prices. Smile

Now this is the view. Most of the local investors think big players are on vacation. Shares are at bargain prices. Market will rally from January. They don't want to miss the January rally.

Now this is what happens. Market transactions thinned out. Manipulators went into action. They pumped up every share couple of rupees everyday. Because there are no transactions it was easy. So it looked like all the indicators are green. Local investors see this. They think they will be too late for that January rally. They think they will miss the rally. So they start buying. This is where we are. Now on sometimes couple of hundred shares market goes up and up. Today's green was mainly due to BUKI, CARS family of shares. But soon this local investor money will thin out. And these local investors will be looking for making profits in January. So we have sellers waiting. But who is going to buy? These days you can see the fundamental shares being sold in millions by the foreign investors. Did anything happen in the last few days in the companies for a 1% rise everyday? Nope. It was pumping up by the manipulators and the local investors picking up after that.

Well said insidertrader.

This is 100% true.

5Is It Real run ? Empty Re: Is It Real run ? Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:47 pm

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

insidertrader wrote:By advisor I assume you mean the title given to your broker. Smile

There's no truth in the stories like big players are on vacation etc. Big players are there 365 days and 24 hours. If they see potential they will invest even if it's summer holidays or 1:00 AM in the morning in their time zone. Our advisors told few days ago that the foreign investors are coming. They were coming all right. Smile But they're selling like crazy. Not junk but fundamental stocks at bargain prices. Smile

Now this is the view. Most of the local investors think big players are on vacation. Shares are at bargain prices. Market will rally from January. They don't want to miss the January rally.

Now this is what happens. Market transactions thinned out. Manipulators went into action. They pumped up every share couple of rupees everyday. Because there are no transactions it was easy. So it looked like all the indicators are green. Local investors see this. They think they will be too late for that January rally. They think they will miss the rally. So they start buying. This is where we are. Now on sometimes couple of hundred shares market goes up and up. Today's green was mainly due to BUKI, CARS family of shares. But soon this local investor money will thin out. And these local investors will be looking for making profits in January. So we have sellers waiting. But who is going to buy? These days you can see the fundamental shares being sold in millions by the foreign investors. Did anything happen in the last few days in the companies for a 1% rise everyday? Nope. It was pumping up by the manipulators and the local investors picking up after that.

This is a very complecated statement. When the market going down many ppl advice not to buy coz it will drop further . When the market moving up still indicates this will change very soon and indirectly say dont buy. If we listen to these advicers we cant buy under any circumstances and only thing left is to leave the market. All nonsense.

6Is It Real run ? Empty Re: Is It Real run ? Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:58 pm

insidertrader


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Rajaraam wrote:
insidertrader wrote:nonsense.

This is a very complecated statement. When the market going down many ppl advice not to buy coz it will drop further . When the market moving up still indicates this will change very soon and indirectly say dont buy. If we listen to these advicers we cant buy under any circumstances and only thing left is to leave the market. All nonsense.

Dear friend, investors don't buy when shares go up. investors don't buy shares when they go down. investors don't buy shares shares go sideways. investors buy shares when the business is worth the price you pay.

7Is It Real run ? Empty Re: Is It Real run ? Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:42 am

illuminati


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Dont get disappointed Mr Raja. These people are mad, fools, maniacs, agents of HNWI's. You have every right ( of course with your own reasons ) to go on a buying spree. How can a stock market be driven without prudent investors like you.

8Is It Real run ? Empty Re: Is It Real run ? Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:23 am

SL.Market

SL.Market
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Finding out is this a real run will important to those who start buying.. but the intelligent traders have done lot of collection last few days.. They will sell coming days no matter real run or not...

9Is It Real run ? Empty Re: Is It Real run ? Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:44 am

Rajaraam


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

illuminati wrote:Dont get disappointed Mr Raja. These people are mad, fools, maniacs, agents of HNWI's. You have every right ( of course with your own reasons ) to go on a buying spree. How can a stock market be driven without prudent investors like you.

Dear illumanati,

Your last sentence is correct.I beleive it is true. I do both trading and investing as SL.market says. We have lot of oppotunities now for both for a wise person. That is how we earned so far . Who guessed PLC which was trading last week at 15.00 could sell 16.40 yesterday.Many ppl did good trade with this counter and I too. There are many other counters like this. If someone bought good shares when I said on 20th Dec under my topic "Last chance to buy....."they can sell now at least with a 10% margin.

10Is It Real run ? Empty Re: Is It Real run ? Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:19 pm

hariesha


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Rajaraam wrote:
illuminati wrote:Dont get disappointed Mr Raja. These people are mad, fools, maniacs, agents of HNWI's. You have every right ( of course with your own reasons ) to go on a buying spree. How can a stock market be driven without prudent investors like you.

Dear illumanati,

Your last sentence is correct.I beleive it is true. I do both trading and investing as SL.market says. We have lot of oppotunities now for both for a wise person. That is how we earned so far . Who guessed PLC which was trading last week at 15.00 could sell 16.40 yesterday.Many ppl did good trade with this counter and I too. There are many other counters like this. If someone bought good shares when I said on 20th Dec under my topic "Last chance to buy....."they can sell now at least with a 10% margin.

TRUE, SOME ARE JUST PREACHING LOGICS. OTHERS HAVE BECOME JUST VIEWERS. PEOPLE WHO TRUST THE MARKET LAST WEEK ARE NOW WINNERS.

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