Removal of arrival visa

I guess hotel sector will be in deep shit, when this happens in the future

Marketinvest wrote:I guess hotel sector will be in deep shit, when this happens in the future

You cant simple tell like that. Please elaborate the reasons behind your comment. I would counter argue with you that by doing this, the hotels will have quality tourists rather than budget tourists and south Indian shits who cook parata on the Ironing machine at the hotel room.

The main reason is , when the govt stops arrival visa in Sri Lanka, the tourist arrival will some what reduce Further they will find out alternative destinations which provides them tourist visa. When this happens the revenue of the hotels can come down. This is the main point i see.

Marketinvest wrote:The main reason is , when the govt stops arrival visa in Sri Lanka, the tourist arrival will some what reduce Further they will find out alternative destinations which provides them tourist visa. When this happens the revenue of the hotels can come down. This is the main point i see.

Brother when we talk about the tourism in Sri Lanka we have to 1st identify what is our market space among are competitors. Our main threats are Maldives with their white sandy beaches, India with their massive cultural exposure with historic places, Singapore with their entertainment and shopping experience, then comes Malaysia with their almost identical tourism to Sri Lanka. Malaysia being the market leader with more than 30million tourists visiting their country each ear and more than 25% of them being Chinese, they do not have a open visa for china. But still they have managed to secure their place in the industry. When a country is growing with economic stability and infra, many none developed country citizens try to come and settle down. Same happened to Singapore with the mongolian crowed coming and settling down until they introduced the visa strategy of having 25us$ per day to give visas. Although it is not practiced anymore, that is how they addressed the problem.

Now when thinking back about the market space in this industry, what sri lankan has its own unique ? is it wild life ? no Africa has got it. Then is it north east white sand beaches ?? no Maldives has got it. Is it a tropical climet ? no Malaysia has got it. Then is it the historic value ?? no India and Nepal got it more than us. Then what does we got unique ?? do you agree if i say the uniqueness is what Sri Lanka got is that its all the above mentioned categories compacted in one island ? Therefore they typical market segment we should address i the tourist who wants to see and experience all these things in a short term. Those tourists mainly plan their tour well ahead. Most of the time they plan it via a tourist agent. So online visa facility is not an extra burden for them.

When thinking of a business , think about the market scope , the segment and the market space. Then do the SWOT (Strengths, Weaknesses, Opertunities and Threats) analyze without just making negative comments about all the steps taken to secure the industries and the country.

Bro its not about me giving negative comments. According to my opinion hotel sector will surely have a impact on this, when it becomes official. We can wait and watch

Marketinvest wrote:Bro its not about me giving negative comments. According to my opinion hotel sector will surely have a impact on this, when it becomes official. We can wait and watch

Yes hotels will have an impact. But a positive impact because it will be limited on cheap tourist arrival. And the impact on national security is much more greater. I have explained my view in detail. Rather than just covering ur statement with a saying to say wait and watch i expected a lengthier rational from you

Their is noting to cover my on my statement. I am talking a fact , most of the quoted hotels will face the impact. This is my opinion

Marketinvest wrote:Their is noting to cover my on my statement. I am talking a fact , most of the quoted hotels will face the impact. This is my opinion

does not agree with you. You have failed to convince me with your opinion. Common brother, shoot some nice hoots for me to get convinced with your opinion... lets make this topic a valuable one..

No bro my objective is not convince u. And i do not give any recommendation as my signature below. My idea is purely based on my logical evaluation which i have already told

Marketinvest wrote:No bro my objective is not convince u. And i do not give any recommendation as my signature below. My idea is purely based on my logical evaluation which i have already told

Recommendation is what you call a buy sell or a hold signal. But neither you nor me have elaborate on any share name or a symbol. We were discussing about a sector and an external effect or impact on the sector. Therefore there is nothing to hesitate. Lets have a valid discussion about this sector. Common shoot with facts brother.. i am not taking this a joke. I am damn serious. Tourism is the future prospects of SL.

Me too not joking. Tourism is the future accepted. But as far as i know this move will have a significant impact due to this move. It will be evident soon

Marketinvest wrote:Me too not joking. Tourism is the future accepted. But as far as i know this move will have a significant impact due to this move. It will be evident soon

ok ok so to Conclude i have to say you are just wearing a tinted pair of spectacles and looking at the problem rather than coming up with enough proof or arguments. Thanks for your time brother..

If Thats what u think, thats ur problem brother. I cant help it. The proof and the arguments are clearly evident, its how u understand it. Thanks for ur time too brother.

this is wat i think

On arrival visa cancelation decision will affect tourism industry in short term. coz majority of tourists from India. (People with Asian expenditure pattern). But it is good for national security. (As a short term solution). Sri Lanka must attract Europe tourists. No use of saying number of tourist just counting heads, we need to increase the total income.

But when implementing cancellation government did not think too much, we should not cancel on arrival visa to Europe countries. They do not like to bother to get visa. Simply they do not like bother with Europeans attitude.
In long term this will not affect hotel industry, cancellation of on arrival visa to some countries is a really good decision.

I think most of you’ll are missing the point. There are different kinds of tourist the budget tourist, the not so rich tourist, the very rich tourist, the adventure tourist etc. The plain truth is Sri Lankan economy needs all these categories of tourists. So it will develop the tourist industries at each macro level. The issue of visa needs to be regulated but as much as possible we need to provide visa on arrival so it will make it hassle free for the traveller. Just imagine if you have to spend two working days to get a visa. So these two days would be reduced from your vacation. As the embassies in big countries are located in the city’s so the travel needs to go to the city to get the visa, just imagine the hassle the tourist need to undergo. For me if this is the case I will prefer to visit a country that provides visa on arrival or provides a visa with multiple entry. Cancelation of the visa on arrival poly will definitely have a negative impact on the hotel industry and in the economy as a whole in the long run. There are lots of other countries that offer what Sri Lanka can offer the tourist so think about it .........

We need to learn to look at thing in broader perspective

This is not a buy/sell/hold recommendation please do your own analysis before investing.

Marketinvest wrote:If Thats what u think, thats ur problem brother. I cant help it. The proof and the arguments are clearly evident, its how u understand it. Thanks for ur time too brother.

*you just put two or three words in a post and not giving facts,and also noted putting odd posts about PAP
ex-
http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t6096-panasian-power-plc-pap#41132

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/t6311-pap-pap-pap#42253

so as you are a new comer,like to give you a advise -please aware what you say and be complied to forum rules..

good luck

Have anyone got tourists arival figures for the month of may and june. What I heard was not good .There is a drop in may tourists from some european countries. Total has increase due to increased larger number of tourists from south asian countries who are mainly visit to stay one or two days for shopping etc.Those tourists won't help the growth of our hotel industry and other related services.

Rajaraam wrote:Have anyone got tourists arival figures for the month of may and june. What I heard was not good .There is a drop in may tourists from some european countries. Total has increase due to increased larger number of tourists from south asian countries who are mainly visit to stay one or two days for shopping etc.Those tourists won't help the growth of our hotel industry and other related services.

Raja,

Tourist arrivals to Sri Lanka rose 39 percent to 48,000 in May 2011 from a year earlier, led by increases in visitors from India and East Asia, data from the tourist promotion office showed.

Last year arrivals rose 46 percent after a 30-year war ended. In the five months to May arrivals are so far up 40.2 percent to 327,902 from a year earlier.

In May visitors from India rose 55 percent to 16,649 driving arrivals from South Asia up 53 percent to 21,016.

East Asian visitors rose 66 percent 6,605, with across the board increases in most countries. Chinese visitors rose 100 percent to 1,337, while those from Japan rose 43 percent to 1,054, Malaysia was up 57 percent to 1,194 and Thailand was up 179 percent to 785.
Arrivals from Western Europe rose 17.4 percent to 12,419 with French visitors rising 81 percent to 2,758.

Visitors from Britain fell 0.4 percent to 4,452 while German arrivals rose a modest 3.2 percent to 2,137.

Thank u mark_fernando. You have given details more than I expected. Very useful data to analize the trend.

also consider the fact that National Security should given highest priority. Evaluation and identification of those who work against the country is easier with online visas and so can prevent them entering the country

Investor99 wrote:I think most of you’ll are missing the point. There are different kinds of tourist the budget tourist, the not so rich tourist, the very rich tourist, the adventure tourist etc. The plain truth is Sri Lankan economy needs all these categories of tourists. So it will develop the tourist industries at each macro level. The issue of visa needs to be regulated but as much as possible we need to provide visa on arrival so it will make it hassle free for the traveller. Just imagine if you have to spend two working days to get a visa. So these two days would be reduced from your vacation. As the embassies in big countries are located in the city’s so the travel needs to go to the city to get the visa, just imagine the hassle the tourist need to undergo. For me if this is the case I will prefer to visit a country that provides visa on arrival or provides a visa with multiple entry. Cancelation of the visa on arrival poly will definitely have a negative impact on the hotel industry and in the economy as a whole in the long run. There are lots of other countries that offer what Sri Lanka can offer the tourist so think about it .........

We need to learn to look at thing in broader perspective

This is not a buy/sell/hold recommendation please do your own analysis before investing.

It seem ur talking without information. Although the on arrival visa is canceled it does not mean you have to walk to the emmbassy to obtain a visa to travel to Sri Lanaka.

Have you ever traveled to UAE ? They too have this online visa application submitting facility. That is what Sri Lanka is gona adopt. So before the tourist come to Sri Lanka, he/She can submit it online and get to know whether he/she is permitted to land or not. This way Sri Lanka is getting binifited to avoid unwanted diaspora guys coming to SL and doing harm to the Country as traveling as tourists. On the other way, the tourist gets off the Hazel of not getting a visa once landed.

Also i think you have never gone for a vacation out of Sri Lanka or has not idea about how people plan overseas vacations. Do you think they think tonight to visit Sri Lanka and then get a ticket tomorrow morning and come to SL ? No way. At least they plan it one to two weeks before the desired travel date. Most of the cases tourists plan in their summer on where to go in the next winter. So that means about 1-2 months ahead planing the location. Therefore obtaining the visa online is not a problem at all.

Do not try to interpret a wrong image on cancellation of Arrival VISA. Although it is canceled online visa application has been introduced as in many developed countries.

Before going licking for sudda fellows $'s we have to think about the National Security at the same time we earn something as a nation from the tourist industry. That is what long lasting tourist industry means.

It's good if the visa can be applied online with any problems. As far as I know most of the Sri Lankan websites does not work properly. One example is the CSE website, even this is not maintain properly some days I find it hard to access the website. I hope the online visa application website works properly. Brother for your information I live overseas and I have visited few countries.

And I know a lot of travellers who wait for the last moment to get the best deal and make their travel arrangements. The world economic situation also makes them wait for the last moment to grab the best deals. So we travellers are unable to get their visas on time online then Sri Lanka is going to miss this segment of travellers. We should not forget there is ample completion from countries like Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Maldives etc. So we have to be competitive as possible and make it easy as possible for the traveller.

Investor99 wrote:It's good if the visa can be applied online with any problems. As far as I know most of the Sri Lankan websites does not work properly. One example is the CSE website, even this is not maintain properly some days I find it hard to access the website. I hope the online visa application website works properly. Brother for your information I live overseas and I have visited few countries.

And I know a lot of travellers who wait for the last moment to get the best deal and make their travel arrangements. The world economic situation also makes them wait for the last moment to grab the best deals. So we travellers are unable to get their visas on time online then Sri Lanka is going to miss this segment of travellers. We should not forget there is ample completion from countries like Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Maldives etc. So we have to be competitive as possible and make it easy as possible for the traveller.

I do not agree with you in your comment except one which is the web site. Yes i agree there are some websites which does not work properly. But also there are lot of web sites in Sri Lanka which is maintained properly without any hazel.

1st i do not agree for your statement which we have to compete with the countries you said. Just check my market segmentation description in 1st reply of this thread.

Secondly i do not agree with your statement that you get the last minute travel arrangements to grab the best deals. This is not true. Even a flight ticket is expensive if your gona get it at the last day or last couple of days. Most of the time it is a common fact that for your to get the best deal you have to book them at least couple of weeks before. Same with the hotels. There are times which the hotel rates are high Example if the traveler want to see the "Dalada Perahara", if he/she stays until the last min, surely that tourist have to pay hell a lot of money rather than booking it at least 3-4 months before. So i totally do not agree with that comment. What you said is true for a businessmen but not a traveler. A businessmen might wait wait till the last min to take the decision if the business matter is just a potential business unitll it gets confirmed or for a sudden visit. Yet the business traveler is not the targeted market space in sri lankan tourism.

As i said before in my 1st reply post in this thread, 1st have to have a clear picture of the market space which sri lanka is catering in the bushiness of tourism. Then look at the big picture.

Nice to have a argument with facts with you.. keep it up