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Decision Postponed - We are screwed up yet again.

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Marketinvest

Marketinvest
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Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

SEC Commissioners deliberate broker proposals, but defer approval pending further scrutiny of more facts to make an informed final decision; to meet again next week

The anxious Colombo stock market will have to wait a little longer for relaxed credit rule as Commissioners of the SEC who met yesterday deferred a final decision for want of more facts and further study, the Daily FT learns.

The much-awaited SEC Commissioners’ meeting took place yesterday and proposals from the Colombo Stock Brokers Association (CSBA) were part of an exhaustive agenda.

The deliberations by the Securities and Exchange Commission, which took a long time, did consider the pros and cons for relaxed credit rules, but given their critical nature the Commissioners had wanted more time to make an informed final decision.

Officials at the SEC Secretariat weren’t available for comment following the late evening meeting, but sources close to the Commissioners said a fresh meeting was likely next week to assess new facts and information sought to make a final decision.
The move by the SEC Commissioners may cause a damper to investor sentiments when market opens today after it bounced back yesterday in anticipation of positive decision leading up to regulatory support.

Following an emergency meeting, the CSBA via written representations on 26 July suggested three proposals for the consideration of the SEC. One is that all brokers be allowed to lend their net capital, which is in excess of Rs. 35 million (minimum net capital requirement) leveraging zero times. The other option is that all brokers be allowed to lend two times the net capital, which is in excess of Rs. 35 million (leveraging one time).

Under both options, the compulsory force selling on Trade + 5 (market days) or T+5 rule has to be removed. The basis for this includes (under first option) broking firms being able to gradually force sell when they are fully utilising their excess funds and can do same when reaching one time leverage.

CSBA has argued that for the first option, brokers in any case can take their excess funds out of the company in the form of dividends or do anything they wish to do with it. With regard to the second option, CSBA has said it would be safe considering the fact that broking firms are able to leverage 10 times up to 2010 whilst presently finance companies are allowed to leverage 10 times and leasing companies allowed seven times leveraging.

Another proposal is that brokers be allowed to transfer excess net capital in the broking company to the wholly-owned margin trading company licensed and regulated by the SEC without deducting from the net capital.

CSBA had emphasised that most broking firms presently have proper systems and procedures in place to monitor debtors.

The Daily FT on Friday reported that following the new credit rules introduced last year, the estimated outstanding credit within broking industry had declined to Rs. 2 billion from Rs. 8 billion originally as per analysts. Given the deferment last night, analysts speculated that perhaps the SEC Commissioners had wanted specific data and breakdown of actual debtor positions to make a proper judgement.

Though CSBA did make written submissions, there has been market talk to the effect that a few broking firms weren’t overly keen on relaxed credit rules and that CSBA was divided on the whole issue. However, there had been majority consensus that brokers should have freedom to extend credit to clients subject to a more relaxed criterion since much of debt issue had been resolved and greater discipline and risk systems and procedures were in place.

Analysts said that when all macro indicators and developments point to a favourable environment for equities investments, the Colombo stock market has been struggling. A key reason for this is said to be some of the regulations being considered “too rigid”.
CSBA in its case for a review of existing rules had told the SEC that the ASI had declined by 16.8% since its mid-February 2011 peak and the MPI had plunged by 24.3% from October 2010.

“Each market day has become a T+5 force selling day for all stock broking firms, which has amounted to a large number of clients’ shares being forced sold daily to the buying quotations, which in turn is moving lower and lower and thereby precipitating a continuous drop in the market prices,” CSBA had pointed out.

“The main reasons for the market drop in our opinion are these on voluntary sales, which result in prices going down, cascading margin calls and more forced selling,” it added.

According to CSBA, local individual investor contribution to market turnover rose from 22% in 2008 to 44% in 2010 and large number of local individual investors with share portfolios of less than Rs. 1 million who were unable to obtain margin trading facilities have been force sold or have left the equity market.

To add to this problem, from 1 January 2010 to date, there has been a net foreign outflow of Rs. 34.6 million and from 1 January 2011, IPOs, Rights Issues and private placements have absorbed over Rs. 50 billion.

“These are the natural mechanisms by which an expensive market becomes an inexpensive market, thereby eliminating the need for any regulatory restrictions,” CSBA argued.

http://www.ft.lk/2011/08/11/longer-wait-for-market-for-relaxed-credit-rule/

Aamiable


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

article says...


"there had been majority consensus that brokers should have freedom to extend credit to clients subject to a more relaxed criterion since much of debt issue had been resolved and greater discipline and risk systems and procedures were in place.”

“SEC Commissioners deliberate broker proposals, but defer approval pending further scrutiny of more facts to make an informed final decision; to meet again next week”

Smile Smile

opfdo

opfdo
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Aamiable wrote:article says...


"there had been majority consensus that brokers should have freedom to extend credit to clients subject to a more relaxed criterion since much of debt issue had been resolved and greater discipline and risk systems and procedures were in place.”

“SEC Commissioners deliberate broker proposals, but defer approval pending further scrutiny of more facts to make an informed final decision; to meet again next week”

Smile Smile




they do not have capacity to take a decision even. ayyo api paw. I am sure SEC are going KADE to those three people who are not like to give credit.

Aamiable


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

I think they might give a favorable decision after considering majority view. ....They say they need discipline ...after all SEC are the regulators... Smile

maddu

maddu
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Aamiable wrote:article says...


"there had been majority consensus that brokers should have freedom to extend credit to clients subject to a more relaxed criterion since much of debt issue had been resolved and greater discipline and risk systems and procedures were in place.”

“SEC Commissioners deliberate broker proposals, but defer approval pending further scrutiny of more facts to make an informed final decision; to meet again next week”

Smile Smile



cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

stockanalytic

stockanalytic
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

in my personal view, someone willing to collect more shares at bargain within this period, that's why they are postponing the decision.

hunter

hunter
Moderator
Moderator

stockanalytic wrote:in my personal view, someone willing to collect more shares at bargain within this period, that's why they are postponing the decision.

Yes, I want to collect more at bargain prices. But they can't be thinking about me;are they? Surprised Laughing lol! jocolor

windi5

windi5
Moderator
Moderator

Asian mkt are down after two days gain.With this news CSE might also go down today. Yea its good time to collect shares and avg some. But there will be some counters which perform well today. overall mkt might be red.

Soundchips


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Japan, USA, china, Australia provide credit for investments. No country grants credit for gambling. ....Commission monitoring might grant credit for further attraction of investments. Stock market is a place for investment....

10Decision Postponed - We are screwed up yet again.  Empty bit different story... Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:21 am

Genting


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

http://print.dailymirror.lk/business/127-local/52787-bourse-anxious-on-broker-credit-announcement.html

The Colombo bourse was again up yesterday in expectation of good news that regulators were relaxing their stance on the much argued broker credit issue.

During the Commission meeting which went past 8 pm yesterday, the proposals put forward by Colombo Stock Brokers Association on the broker-credit matter were believed to have discussed and the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) is expected to come out with an announcement shortly.

The broker credit saga in the Colombo bourse has quite a long history. It was in November last year the SEC asked the brokers to end client exposure completely on December 31, 2010 and banned all stock broking firms from providing credit to customers and encouraged banks to provide margins.

The brokers lobbied against the decision and the regulator extended the deadline to the June 30, 2011 adding that by March 31 the brokers should reduce client exposures to 50 percent.

But again in May, even before the June deadline that was set, the market regulator rewarded the brokers with another extension of the deadline on “improved market conditions”, saying that a “majority” of stock broking firms have cut exposure to debtors to 50 percent by March 31.

This extension, which was done due to “representations made by market participants” gave time to brokers to cut 25 percent of exposures to debtors— out of the balance 50 percent— on September 30 and the next 25 percent on December 31, 2011.

In a recent letter to the Securities and Exchange Commission, brokers requested the removal of T+5 forced selling rule and to allow all brokers to lend their net capital which is in excess of minimum net capital requirement of Rs. 35 million.

They also had requested to allow all brokers to transfer the excess net capital in the broking company to the wholly owned margin trading company, licensed and regulated by the SEC, without deducting from the net capital.

Brokers also noted that to the best of their knowledge, most brokering firms presently have proper systems and procedures in place to monitor debtors and had expressed glimpse of hope for a favorable decision speedily, to avert a continuous decline in the market.

Soundchips


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

according to this news item

Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) is expected to come out with an announcement shortly.

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Soundchips wrote:according to this news item

Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) is expected to come out with an announcement shortly.


Wow.. really..??

Soundchips


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

this week or next week...

duke


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

“Each market day has become a T+5 force selling day for all stock broking firms, which has amounted to a large number of clients’ shares being forced sold daily to the buying quotations, which in turn is moving lower and lower and thereby precipitating a continuous drop in the market prices,” CSBA had pointed out.

This shows brokers can't manage the credit properly or they're giving out credit without checking the credit worthiness of the customer. If this is happening over and over again either brokers are really stupid like donkeys or really crafty like groups of foxes. If SEC gives credit to these kind of brokers, it would be like giving blades to monkeys.

windi5

windi5
Moderator
Moderator

Next week i think. normally they meet on Wednesdays. they need more time to study broker proposals .

CHASE

CHASE
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

two news says two things. let's see who's trying to make us fools. scratch

ranjanie


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Aiyo, Balagiri dose wage . ekath ada nowe heta ne.Mekath ehemamai.

Genting


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

windi5 wrote:Next week i think. normally they meet on Wednesdays. they need more time to study broker proposals .

They knew what brokers were proposing for some time.
Seems like they have gone to the meeting without doing any analysis. That's why they ask for more time.

This shows SEC's incompetence again!

Moka munwa path karada danne ne?

swan03


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

Disappointed Mad

godswen

godswen
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Yes, I think the decision is postponed! Will see how the market is gona react!

cse1981

cse1981
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

Thanks Very Happy
Now market red

bullrun

bullrun
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

No Government agencies are properly worked without the intervention by the H.E. President. I know a lot of you hate Mahinda Chnitana. However, you can get a solution if and if only he intervene to this matter too just like happening everywhere.
We can convince him either to allow broker credit or to arrange margin with intuitions.

JennyFunny


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Market is gonna crash..if we go like this

rijayasooriya

rijayasooriya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

Genting wrote:
windi5 wrote:Next week i think. normally they meet on Wednesdays. they need more time to study broker proposals .

They knew what brokers were proposing for some time.
Seems like they have gone to the meeting without doing any analysis. That's why they ask for more time.

This shows SEC's incompetence again!

Moka munwa path karada danne ne?

I am totally agreed with u.Furthur more it they really want time they can withhold that rule till their next meeting.I think real reason for this some big fellows may be waiting for bargain hunting.

Soundchips


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Favorable division might come after monitoring within certain limits...... it is not an easy decision for any government...

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