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ASI 3000 level ??

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1ASI 3000 level ?? Empty ASI 3000 level ?? Tue May 15, 2012 9:51 am

mrmrehan

mrmrehan
Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

Day 2 day market is going down, will it come down to 3000 Level ??

2ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Tue May 15, 2012 9:58 am

hawklk


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

WoW another forecast. Why don't we all help to bring ASI to 0 and start from fresh....

3ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Tue May 15, 2012 10:13 am

stockmania

stockmania
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

It will never happen. If it happened foreigners will buy all shares in CSE.

4ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Tue May 15, 2012 10:14 am

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics

Wondering still this thread in the talk section.
To be in the prison.

5ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Thu May 17, 2012 12:17 am

mark

mark
Expert
Expert

stockmania wrote:It will never happen. If it happened foreigners will buy all shares in CSE.

good comment Smile



Redbulls wrote:Wondering still this thread in the talk section.
To be in the prison.

its ok redbull,he is asking for our idea ne without telling his opinion..


anyway 3000 is impossible,bcz we have circuit breakers Razz
just a joke Smile

6ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Thu May 17, 2012 8:10 am

K.Haputantri

K.Haputantri
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mrmrehan wrote:Day 2 day market is going down, will it come down to 3000 Level ??

He is asking a question. ?Can experts explain as to why it may not hit 3000 level with charts.

7ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Thu May 17, 2012 4:03 pm

Marketinvest

Marketinvest
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

It may happen, some of the brokers expect the asi to reach 4200 range. We may not be able justify it now but it can happen. The longterm view and the reliability is gone away mainly with foreign investors. Hoping it should never happen at any case. Some analyst also say their is hidden economic crisis that already underway but that is unnoticed by much. Credit card interest rates have gone up by 4% and outstanding credit card bills are 40bn LKR this might even lead to a credit crisis, oil future price is coming down due to weaker Europe demand its 109 usd per barrel today. Euro is depriciating against the dollar. Our local lending rates have gone up, which leads money being pulled out every day and invested in more safer investment like TB. Taxes on essential goods locally are increasing at rate. Finally the Govt runs out of money and issues state soverign bonds at higher rate to run the economy. So many problems than ever before globally and locally, in that sense it may even reach 3000, whatever the indicator and patterns are.
Last not but least, charts are never to be RELIED ON, they are indicators based on past performance and future forecast are based on that. Charts are ideal on a stable environment not in dynamic conditions like current situations

8ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Thu May 17, 2012 7:46 pm

mark

mark
Expert
Expert

Marketinvest wrote:It may happen, some of the brokers expect the asi to reach 4200 range. We may not be able justify it now but it can happen. The longterm view and the reliability is gone away mainly with foreign investors. Hoping it should never happen at any case. Some analyst also say their is hidden economic crisis that already underway but that is unnoticed by much. Credit card interest rates have gone up by 4% and outstanding credit card bills are 40bn LKR this might even lead to a credit crisis, oil future price is coming down due to weaker Europe demand its 109 usd per barrel today. Euro is depriciating against the dollar. Our local lending rates have gone up, which leads money being pulled out every day and invested in more safer investment like TB. Taxes on essential goods locally are increasing at rate. Finally the Govt runs out of money and issues state soverign bonds at higher rate to run the economy. So many problems than ever before globally and locally, in that sense it may even reach 3000, whatever the indicator and patterns are.
Last not but least, charts are never to be RELIED ON, they are indicators based on past performance and future forecast are based on that. Charts are ideal on a stable environment not in dynamic conditions like current situations

bro,who are the brokers?
btw good explanation,but 3000 is possible if and only if our economic collapsed Crying or Very sad

9ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Thu May 17, 2012 7:54 pm

rishanpossitive


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

mark wrote:
Marketinvest wrote:It may happen, some of the brokers expect the asi to reach 4200 range. We may not be able justify it now but it can happen. The longterm view and the reliability is gone away mainly with foreign investors. Hoping it should never happen at any case. Some analyst also say their is hidden economic crisis that already underway but that is unnoticed by much. Credit card interest rates have gone up by 4% and outstanding credit card bills are 40bn LKR this might even lead to a credit crisis, oil future price is coming down due to weaker Europe demand its 109 usd per barrel today. Euro is depriciating against the dollar. Our local lending rates have gone up, which leads money being pulled out every day and invested in more safer investment like TB. Taxes on essential goods locally are increasing at rate. Finally the Govt runs out of money and issues state soverign bonds at higher rate to run the economy. So many problems than ever before globally and locally, in that sense it may even reach 3000, whatever the indicator and patterns are.
Last not but least, charts are never to be RELIED ON, they are indicators based on past performance and future forecast are based on that. Charts are ideal on a stable environment not in dynamic conditions like current situations

bro,who are the brokers?
btw good explanation,but 3000 is possible if and only if our economic collapsed Crying or Very sad

this will happen if ASI spli to two one day. Razz Razz

10ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Thu May 17, 2012 8:14 pm

Antonym

Antonym
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

mrmrehan wrote:Day 2 day market is going down, will it come down to 3000 Level ??
IF the ASI goes down to 3000, the market P/E Ratio would be 6.38. Such a low PE for a growing economy like SL's appears to be highly improbable.

I would stick my neck out and say that the Market P/E Ratio (currently 11.11) is unlikely to drop below 10.

11ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Thu May 17, 2012 10:40 pm

Marketinvest

Marketinvest
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

rishanpossitive wrote:
mark wrote:
Marketinvest wrote:It may happen, some of the brokers expect the asi to reach 4200 range. We may not be able justify it now but it can happen. The longterm view and the reliability is gone away mainly with foreign investors. Hoping it should never happen at any case. Some analyst also say their is hidden economic crisis that already underway but that is unnoticed by much. Credit card interest rates have gone up by 4% and outstanding credit card bills are 40bn LKR this might even lead to a credit crisis, oil future price is coming down due to weaker Europe demand its 109 usd per barrel today. Euro is depriciating against the dollar. Our local lending rates have gone up, which leads money being pulled out every day and invested in more safer investment like TB. Taxes on essential goods locally are increasing at rate. Finally the Govt runs out of money and issues state soverign bonds at higher rate to run the economy. So many problems than ever before globally and locally, in that sense it may even reach 3000, whatever the indicator and patterns are.
Last not but least, charts are never to be RELIED ON, they are indicators based on past performance and future forecast are based on that. Charts are ideal on a stable environment not in dynamic conditions like current situations

bro,who are the brokers?
btw good explanation,but 3000 is possible if and only if our economic collapsed Crying or Very sad

this will happen if ASI spli to two one day. Razz Razz

hmmm my broker is Bartleet, he expects the market to drop further. But we never can trust brokers as we all know. Lets anyway hope and pray we dont face such a dillema. However we need to plan for the worse since the confidence in the market has eroded. I have personally researched how large hedge funds big as our whole market cap failed quickly. Our investments also can go to a six quickly therefore we need to be very much watchful in dealing with this inflated economy which not easy again. Protect your hard earned money.

12ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Fri May 18, 2012 6:01 pm

traderathome

traderathome
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

When ur broker told it wil go to 3000 did ask what is the trigger for it to come down by2000 points

13ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Fri May 18, 2012 6:22 pm

smallville

smallville
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics

A lot of brokers seems to be day dreaming these days without a way of paying salaries to their staff, and if ASI comes to 3000, I'm pretty sure at least 5-6 broker houses will have to turn into brothels to make profits Twisted Evil

I find it difficult to understand the idea behind the ASI 3000 points. Just however we have to bear in mind if the market doesn't turn up soon, ppl who had bought today could be in trouble too..

Again I'm saying today's green was also artificial..
ASI 3000 level ?? Untitl11

14ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Fri May 18, 2012 6:26 pm

Kumar

Kumar
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics

smallville wrote:
Again I'm saying today's green was also artificial..

Last minute push for reason well known.

15ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Fri May 18, 2012 7:10 pm

rohanc


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

Probably ASI down to 4500 Level. I think most of low price shares are with the lowest rate but some of companies with high prices not showing enough earnings per a share.

Due to that case some of high price shares have to let down more. pls check with the dividend announcements. All of you can check the proves.

If you are going to buy shares with the price more than 20 rupees, make sure to check the past accounts reports. last few days time ASI up with few units but with the next two weeks time we can expect ASI will down slowly.

Kindly note i also got a big lost to invest in the share mkt. But now learned more lessons to that How we need to invest in share mkt. Kindly note don't go to buy any share until you have got sufficient details with the company even they are now lowest. Also refer their past records before you invest.

16ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Fri May 18, 2012 9:08 pm

sahan8896


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

never below 5000 again.ASI was stable at 5300's week ago and came down due to marginal calls and TFC deal(which is actually not a reason for market to go down,but these things can create panic among inexperienced retailers).Who grabbed the opportunity last week are winners.Market provide opportunities and we should be smart enough to grab them. Yesterday and today low turnovers and bullish patterns in some shares indicate that bulls are winning the battle.Whenever shares are red the smart investors are not willing to sell in panic and trades dry down with turnover too.If you observe order books you'll find out the tricks of bears and how they fail to succeed.It's a long story.Collect slowly and be ready for the bull run which is not far away. Very Happy Very Happy

17ASI 3000 level ?? Empty ASI 3000 level? Fri May 18, 2012 10:15 pm

K&M


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

Marketinvest wrote:It may happen, some of the brokers expect the asi to reach 4200 range. We may not be able justify it now but it can happen. The longterm view and the reliability is gone away mainly with foreign investors. Hoping it should never happen at any case. Some analyst also say their is hidden economic crisis that already underway but that is unnoticed by much. Credit card interest rates have gone up by 4% and outstanding credit card bills are 40bn LKR this might even lead to a credit crisis, oil future price is coming down due to weaker Europe demand its 109 usd per barrel today. Euro is depriciating against the dollar. Our local lending rates have gone up, which leads money being pulled out every day and invested in more safer investment like TB. Taxes on essential goods locally are increasing at rate. Finally the Govt runs out of money and issues state soverign bonds at higher rate to run the economy. So many problems than ever before globally and locally, in that sense it may even reach 3000, whatever the indicator and patterns are.
Last not but least, charts are never to be RELIED ON, they are indicators based on past performance and future forecast are based on that. Charts are ideal on a stable environment not in dynamic conditions like current situations


Its nice to have the skepticism and always judge the economy in a pessimistic point of view before making any investments, but some of the statements you have made are clearly in favor of our economy (reduction of oil price) this would largely benefit to layer our massive debt burden. further i would strongly disagree with the comments that some brokers said, guys we are in our crisis periods the right policies have been taken and we are fortunate as well to buy oil at a 15% lower price, so we might see the policies starting to work very quickly and stabilize our massive BOP deficit.

and the other thing is i don't think the bond rates would go up further, and i expect the interest rates also to be reduce in the near future by CB to match up the GDP growth targets already our bond rates our easing. most of us our reluctant to invest because most people optimize their would be a another crisis, what we should remember is we are in a period of crisis and this is the right time to invest we could have thought a about a crisis in feb 2011 where the market was at its peak and everybody thought we were doing fine but the reality was the opposite. Invest now in potential companies which are undervalued i will guarantee you a 100% or maybe more in another 2 to 3 year time. this what the foreigners did and what their keep on doing.

18ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Fri May 18, 2012 10:33 pm

nkuda


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

K&M wrote:
Its nice to have the skepticism and always judge the economy in a pessimistic point of view before making any investments, but some of the statements you have made are clearly in favor of our economy (reduction of oil price) this would largely benefit to layer our massive debt burden. further i would strongly disagree with the comments that some brokers said, guys we are in our crisis periods the right policies have been taken and we are fortunate as well to buy oil at a 15% lower price, so we might see the policies starting to work very quickly and stabilize our massive BOP deficit.

and the other thing is i don't think the bond rates would go up further, and i expect the interest rates also to be reduce in the near future by CB to match up the GDP growth targets already our bond rates our easing. most of us our reluctant to invest because most people optimize their would be a another crisis, what we should remember is we are in a period of crisis and this is the right time to invest we could have thought a about a crisis in feb 2011 where the market was at its peak and everybody thought we were doing fine but the reality was the opposite. Invest now in potential companies which are undervalued i will guarantee you a 100% or maybe more in another 2 to 3 year time. this what the foreigners did and what their keep on doing.

Dear K&M, Appreciate your unbiased clear explanation Smile , Keep on doing that .

19ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Fri May 18, 2012 10:58 pm

Antonym

Antonym
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics

sahan8896 wrote:never below 5000 again.ASI was stable at 5300's week ago and came down due to marginal calls and TFC deal(which is actually not a reason for market to go down,but these things can create panic among inexperienced retailers).Who grabbed the opportunity last week are winners.Market provide opportunities and we should be smart enough to grab them. Yesterday and today low turnovers and bullish patterns in some shares indicate that bulls are winning the battle.Whenever shares are red the smart investors are not willing to sell in panic and trades dry down with turnover too.If you observe order books you'll find out the tricks of bears and how they fail to succeed.It's a long story.Collect slowly and be ready for the bull run which is not far away. Very Happy Very Happy
@sahan8896: From a long term perspective, I agree with you.
But be careful; the markets are unpredictable. Just when you think 'never below 5000 again', there could be a sell-off.

20ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Sat May 19, 2012 9:27 am

rohanc


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic

We have to consider the current economy situation properly before get the decisions. Actually i am not a negative person. But still I got concerns for below details.

After the war CSE was the one of stock markets in the world. At that time a lot of Local & Foreign investors invested money a lot with CSE. Time to time The government & Media given a fully promotion about the stock mkt & people was very happy to invest in stock mkt in their hard earned money to get a big profit. Most of investors taken off money from their deposits & Invested in stock market.

Now with this crash situation investors haven't got more money to invest in stock mkt. Also new comers are looking another investment ways instead of share mkt.

Old investors with big portfolios have big losses. They have no idea whether shares keep or sell. Because if they keep their shares more time they need 2-3 years to cover their losses. But passed 2-3 years the money hasn't the real value as the present. Also they cant sell their shares because if they sell they will have a bot lost.

As per the past records with few days time foreign investors came to CSE. Now are looking a green light deemly but this is not so good because CSE is a big source for US.

I also think now is the time to buy shares but now i have no money to invest. I know most of share holders present situation as this. If the share mkt will up we need more investors. if not we need to buy more. In the current situation foreign inverters looking for CSE.

I would like to keep this topic for further. Then we can discuss about this. Finally all of we need to up the ASI to cover our losses firstly. Then we can have a profit. Than we go for profits. silent Wink Smile








21ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Sat May 19, 2012 5:51 pm

K&M


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic

rohanc wrote:We have to consider the current economy situation properly before get the decisions. Actually i am not a negative person. But still I got concerns for below details.

After the war CSE was the one of stock markets in the world. At that time a lot of Local & Foreign investors invested money a lot with CSE. Time to time The government & Media given a fully promotion about the stock mkt & people was very happy to invest in stock mkt in their hard earned money to get a big profit. Most of investors taken off money from their deposits & Invested in stock market.

Now with this crash situation investors haven't got more money to invest in stock mkt. Also new comers are looking another investment ways instead of share mkt.

Old investors with big portfolios have big losses. They have no idea whether shares keep or sell. Because if they keep their shares more time they need 2-3 years to cover their losses. But passed 2-3 years the money hasn't the real value as the present. Also they cant sell their shares because if they sell they will have a bot lost.

As per the past records with few days time foreign investors came to CSE. Now are looking a green light deemly but this is not so good because CSE is a big source for US.

I also think now is the time to buy shares but now i have no money to invest. I know most of share holders present situation as this. If the share mkt will up we need more investors. if not we need to buy more. In the current situation foreign inverters looking for CSE.

I would like to keep this topic for further. Then we can discuss about this. Finally all of we need to up the ASI to cover our losses firstly. Then we can have a profit. Than we go for profits. silent Wink Smile

Mate whatever the market trend is regardless weather its bullish, bearish or sheep. you should always know how to manage your investment. Stock market is a one source of investment where you can gain capital in the long or short it can be considered as a very profitable and a riskier asset. hence we should always remember to invest only a 40 to 70 % (maximum) no mater how good our economy is and reinvest the remaining in safer places such as FD'S and bonds. if you look at any powerful investor in today world or if you talk to any expert they would give you the same advice.

im sorry to hear that most people ran out of cash to make any sort of investment due to recent market drop. in the future we should always remember these moments and learn from experiences before investing.






22ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Sat May 19, 2012 6:48 pm

Marketinvest

Marketinvest
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
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Mate oil future coming down due to increase in supply and due to weaker demand is 2 different things. Oil coming down due to global weaker demand specially in Europe indicate a possible start of another global recession and we can never be certain that market wouldnt come down below 5000, it can always happen there are enough possibilities due to rising interest rates.

23ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Sun May 20, 2012 8:58 pm

Hawk Eye

Hawk Eye
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businesses slowing down. Some of the recent macro economic policies have triggered this.

most of the Companies will show reduction in their earnings for next quarter. Therfore the market PE will be high, and the prices will come down to adjust to normal level.

So the Index should comedown. People who pick the oversold shares are the winners

24ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Wed May 23, 2012 11:29 pm

rohanc


Equity Analytic
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Hi Friends,

ASI 21st May - 5207.72
ASI 22nd May - 5155.61
ASI 23rd May - 5048.11
ASI 24th May - ???????????????

Need tour comments.

25ASI 3000 level ?? Empty Re: ASI 3000 level ?? Wed May 23, 2012 11:47 pm

Antonym

Antonym
Vice President - Equity Analytics
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If the number of points lost by the ASI each day follows a geometric progression (which it doesn't),
ASI 24th May - 4826.34?
ASI 25th May - 4368.85? affraid

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