CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000)

Chinwi · **601** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Fri May 06, 2016 7:54 am

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For JAPFA, selling GRAN @ 80 or 120 makes no much difference.

Their Asset value is 2,300 million US$
Their current assets in GRAN is 2.1 million US$

Since their holding in GRAN is below 0.1% of their total assets I think it makes a burden than a wealth for them to maintain it in their books.

If they sell GRAN @ 80 /- they get 2.5 million US$
If they sell GRAN @ 120/- they get 3.7 million US$

Their after tax profit for first qtr 2016 only was 37.1 million US $

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Now, their intention is no secret , selling at higher prices is not probable for them. This makes a good opportunity to collect it with the cash flow of small inverters in coming months.

EquityChamp · **602** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Fri May 06, 2016 8:03 am

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@ Chinwi, Exactly my point. That's why I wrote if I had 400mn I will call this fellows and buy it.

Chinwi · **603** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Fri May 06, 2016 8:18 am

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Harry82 wrote:most of the companies are trading low PER

LFIN - PER 4.5
CDB - PER 5
PABC - PER6

there4 Gran 80.00 is not bad price.
Cant expect lot

accepted. above is the situation these days.

1980-90 ගණන් වල ලංකාවෙ සමාගම් වල PER එක 6 තිබිල 20 ටත් එහා නැග්ග. නැවත ආර්ථික ව්‍යාකූලත්වය මත 6 ට බැස්ස. නැවත මට මතක විදියට වසර 2 එජාප කාලයේ සටන් නැවැත්වීමේ ගිවිසුමෙන් පසුව උදාවූ කාලයේ PER ඉහල ගියා. නැවත සටන් උත්සන්න වීමත් සමග හා ලෝක අර්ථික අවපාතය හමුවේ 6 ටත් පහලට වැටුනා. 2009 න් පස්සෙ රටේ ඇතිවූ පිබිදීමත් සමග 20 පන්නල ගියා. නැවත දැන් 6 ටත් පහලට අඩු වෙලා තියෙනව.
නැවත කවදා හෝ 20 ට එහා යයි.
ඒකට යලිත් ආර්ථිකය මේ මට්ටමේ නැතුව ස්ථාවර පැහැදිලි අනාගතයක් පේන්න තියෙන තත්වයට එන්න ඕන.

එතකල් 6 ට අඩු ස්ථාවර ව්‍යාපාර වල කොටස් කෙමෙන් එකතු කර ගත්තට කමක් නෑ. නමුත් විකුණන දිනය කියන්න බෑ. සමහර විට හිතුවට වඩා කාලයක් අල්ලගෙන ඉන්න වෙයි.

Brinthan · **604** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Fri May 06, 2016 7:56 pm

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Too much of selling preasure between 82-85 range...Thats why i think gran not moving as we expect...

cseguide · **605** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Fri May 06, 2016 8:40 pm

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Chinwi wrote:

Harry82 wrote:most of the companies are trading low PER

LFIN - PER 4.5
CDB - PER 5
PABC - PER6

there4 Gran 80.00 is not bad price.
Cant expect lot

accepted. above is the situation these days.

1980-90 ගණන් වල ලංකාවෙ සමාගම් වල PER එක 6 තිබිල 20 ටත් එහා නැග්ග. නැවත ආර්ථික ව්‍යාකූලත්වය මත 6 ට බැස්ස. නැවත මට මතක විදියට වසර 2 එජාප කාලයේ සටන් නැවැත්වීමේ ගිවිසුමෙන් පසුව උදාවූ කාලයේ PER ඉහල ගියා. නැවත සටන් උත්සන්න වීමත් සමග හා ලෝක අර්ථික අවපාතය හමුවේ 6 ටත් පහලට වැටුනා. 2009 න් පස්සෙ රටේ ඇතිවූ පිබිදීමත් සමග 20 පන්නල ගියා. නැවත දැන් 6 ටත් පහලට අඩු වෙලා තියෙනව.
නැවත කවදා හෝ 20 ට එහා යයි.
ඒකට යලිත් ආර්ථිකය මේ මට්ටමේ නැතුව ස්ථාවර පැහැදිලි අනාගතයක් පේන්න තියෙන තත්වයට එන්න ඕන.

එතකල් 6 ට අඩු ස්ථාවර ව්‍යාපාර වල කොටස් කෙමෙන් එකතු කර ගත්තට කමක් නෑ. නමුත් විකුණන දිනය කියන්න බෑ. සමහර විට හිතුවට වඩා කාලයක් අල්ලගෙන ඉන්න වෙයි.

ඔය කියන්ඩ හදනෙ අය MR එනකම් MARKET නගිනේ නැ කියලා නේද ? මේවා අහලා දැන් නම් ඇති වෙලා තියනේ .කොහෙන් ගියත් ඔතෙන්ද තමා CHINWI එනේ . NEGATIVE වෙනද එපා . මේ ආන්ඩුවට කාලයක් දීල බලමු

karuna · **606** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Fri May 06, 2016 8:54 pm

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Brinthan wrote:Too much of selling preasure between 82-85 range...Thats why i think gran not moving as we expect...

I wish to u gran will 90 very soon .

If some share going for maga profit financial report
Then why people selling ? For what ?

Bfl 240 make a nice profit but huge selling came drop to 170 what s the reason

Those types share moving with very long term technical chart . Try to understand what I saying if they post loose making report for a one quatre then we everybody panic selling but price will increase between next 3 month more than that level.

Sometime I am wrong coz very intelligent expert here . But if you like to c it from different types knowledge I wish u.

Reasonably that's why I didn't like such a profit making company coz some shares have a one ^or two quater good profit next quarter loose like that type stokes is my favourite . Thing is technical support for move up share . So sorry I posted like this because this is just a my small knowledge
So understand everything not like same different knowledge different people in the world

nimantha80 · **607** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Fri May 06, 2016 8:58 pm

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tafl 100 to 126.Gran stuck at 80.Just rotate GRAN people.This is simple logic.

Brinthan · **608** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Fri May 06, 2016 9:11 pm

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karuna wrote:

Brinthan wrote:Too much of selling preasure between 82-85 range...Thats why i think gran not moving as we expect...

I wish to u gran will 90 very soon .

If some share going for maga profit financial report
Then why people selling ? For what ?

Bfl 240 make a nice profit but huge selling came drop to 170 what s the reason

Those types share moving with very long term technical chart . Try to understand what I saying if they post loose making report for a one quatre then we everybody panic selling but price will increase between next 3 month more than that level.

Sometime I am wrong coz very intelligent expert here . But if you like to c it from different types knowledge I wish u.

Reasonably that's why I didn't like such a profit making company coz some shares have a one ^or two quater good profit next quarter loose like that type stokes is my favourite . Thing is technical support for move up share . So sorry I posted like this because this is just a my small knowledge
So understand everything not like same different knowledge different people in the world

100% i agree with u karuna...We can earn more profit two quarter good profit and next quarter loose companies..But it will happen some extend.. and its too risky...
more risk more gain....

karuna · **609** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Fri May 06, 2016 9:51 pm

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Brinthan wrote:

karuna wrote:

Brinthan wrote:Too much of selling preasure between 82-85 range...Thats why i think gran not moving as we expect...

I wish to u gran will 90 very soon .

If some share going for maga profit financial report
Then why people selling ? For what ?

Bfl 240 make a nice profit but huge selling came drop to 170 what s the reason

Those types share moving with very long term technical chart . Try to understand what I saying if they post loose making report for a one quatre then we everybody panic selling but price will increase between next 3 month more than that level.

Sometime I am wrong coz very intelligent expert here . But if you like to c it from different types knowledge I wish u.

Reasonably that's why I didn't like such a profit making company coz some shares have a one ^or two quater good profit next quarter loose like that type stokes is my favourite . Thing is technical support for move up share . So sorry I posted like this because this is just a my small knowledge
So understand everything not like same different knowledge different people in the world

100% i agree with u karuna...We can earn more profit two quarter good profit and next quarter loose companies..But it will happen some extend.. and its too risky...
more risk more gain....

Chicken family firstly introduce Mr. Teller gran 38 tafl 56 from last year as well he sold perfect time gran 115:tafl 150 maybe
Bli also he introduce 32 now 120 +
Anyway everybody have little week point but we like share our knowledge with others for intelligent investment . However Mr teller is very important jem to us . Please don't cat fight against shares for do day trading

Chinwi · **610** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Fri May 06, 2016 10:32 pm

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ඔය කියන්ඩ හදනෙ අය MR එනකම් MARKET නගිනේ නැ කියලා නේද ? මේවා අහලා දැන් නම් ඇති වෙලා තියනේ .කොහෙන් ගියත් ඔතෙන්ද තමා CHINWI එනේ . NEGATIVE වෙනද එපා . මේ ආන්ඩුවට කාලයක් දීල බලමු

රටේ මිනිස්සුන්ට නම් මේ මොළේ කළඳක් නැති ගොන් පාලකයො කරන ගොන් වැඩ නිසා වැනසුන රට බලල ඇති වෙල තියෙන්නෙ. ආපු දා ඉඳල කරපු මුදල් විනාශයට අද වන් දි ගෙවන්න වෙලා තියෙන්නෙ මහජනතාවට. තාමත් තේරෙන්නෙ නැද්ද මේ කිසිම වැඩක් බැරි නිකම්මු රංචුවක් කියල.

chamil1 · **611** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Sat May 07, 2016 12:03 am

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Chinwi wrote:

cseguide wrote:
ඔය කියන්ඩ හදනෙ අය MR එනකම් MARKET නගිනේ නැ කියලා නේද ? මේවා අහලා දැන් නම් ඇති වෙලා තියනේ .කොහෙන් ගියත් ඔතෙන්ද තමා CHINWI එනේ . NEGATIVE වෙනද එපා . මේ ආන්ඩුවට කාලයක් දීල බලමු

රටේ මිනිස්සුන්ට නම් මේ මොළේ කළඳක් නැති ගොන් පාලකයො කරන ගොන් වැඩ නිසා වැනසුන රට බලල ඇති වෙල තියෙන්නෙ. ආපු දා ඉඳල කරපු මුදල් විනාශයට අද වන් දි ගෙවන්න වෙලා තියෙන්නෙ මහජනතාවට. තාමත් තේරෙන්නෙ නැද්ද මේ කිසිම වැඩක් බැරි නිකම්මු රංචුවක් කියල.

VALUEPICK · **612** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Sat May 07, 2016 5:09 am

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Jafa is one of the top players in the meat and dairy products related industry in the South East Asia .Singapore market didn’t do well lately. But their listed shares are outperforming the market. They have business interests in Asian countries such Indonesia, China, India, Myanmar, and Vietnam etc. They had some trouble in some areas before 2014 and there were some significant improvements in thier trouble areas in 2015.

The poultry-related industry in Indonesia is benefiting due to new market development
The company had managed to counter low milk prices in China with improvement in milk yields and sales volumes.
The Vietnam swine business turned profitable in 2015.

It has been in business for over 40 years and is currently one of the largest poultry producers in Indonesia. The company is also a leading dairy products company in China. JAFA might like if they can get control interest in GRAN. I don’t think PRIMA will like it.

They may have their own business strategies. We have to stay with our own known strategy.

EquityChamp · **613** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed May 11, 2016 8:23 am

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GRAN had BUY signals in all daily, weekly and monthly technical charts but its Bull/Bear Power(13) is getting diminished in daily charts to 1.0. The hourly charts have negative values for Bull/Bear Power indicator. This shows the signs of reversing the trend for GRAN from technical BUY to technical SELL. So be think twice if you are planning to enter now.

Brinthan · **614** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Fri May 13, 2016 7:03 pm

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Strong sell signal from technical indicators...My Avg cost around Rs.81.5/- .....The selling preasure is still continues..
EC Sir What can i do for this present situation...Can i hold this or sell with lessor profit ...?

EquityChamp · **615** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Fri May 13, 2016 7:35 pm

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As I said in my previous post the bull/bear power indicator turning into negative territory but if you have the stock no need to worry. Just hold for couple of weeks and also don't think of increasing your quantity at the moment. Just wait and see. If market turned really negative GRAN can come down to 75/70 levels then you should collect and average down. Otherwise this will be around 80/81 till that big selling is over.

Brinthan · **616** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Fri May 13, 2016 8:05 pm

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EquityChamp wrote:As I said in my previous post the bull/bear power indicator turning into negative territory but if you have the stock no need to worry. Just hold for couple of weeks and also don't think of increasing your quantity at the moment. Just wait and see. If market turned really negative GRAN can come down to 75/70 levels then you should collect and average down. Otherwise this will be around 80/81 till that big selling is over.

Thank you ...EC Sir

pfxavier · **617** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Sat May 14, 2016 10:08 am

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EquityChamp, Do you think how long this will stay around 80's before start to appreciate. Any guess ?

EquityChamp · **618** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Sat May 14, 2016 10:51 am

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At the going rate GRAN can trade around 80s for another 3-4 weeks at least. In between if market witnessed a correction it can fall to 70/75 levels too but that will be a risk free buying level. When the market resumes its bull run it will again come to 80s in no time.

pfxavier · **619** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Sat May 14, 2016 11:05 am

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Thanks EC for quick response

stockback · **620** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Sat May 14, 2016 2:54 pm

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According to Bolinger Bands.

if Gran stay same level during next week. after next week it will be start falling.

Actually there is not much selling. all broker firms are spreading news about selling pressure. now its stuck on this level. maybe they wants to collect at cheap level.

this is artificial selling pressure. buy purposely killing buying pressure

to invest this is good share.

Teller · **621** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Sat May 14, 2016 3:06 pm

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In this article, ECs answers are logical and more professional.

SupunD · **622** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed May 18, 2016 5:18 am

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GRAN is resonably undervalued when considering therecent fianncial performance. However, due to the bad experiences during 2012/2013 most investors are not willing to invest in GRAN.

EquityChamp · **623** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed May 18, 2016 7:14 am

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SupunD, GRAN is stagnating not because of investor bad experience but the selling intentions of the main shareholders. Main shareholders have decided to sell in the market so that the liquidity of the market is also increasing.

The confidence issue is with institutional investors. That is why they are not coming forward to absorb the current level of selling. Institutions like EPS were there to absorb liquidity but since the unpredictability of the cash flows and thereby share price nowadays it is very difficult to find an institutional shareholder to absorb liquidity. That is the main issue with GRAN.

But I believe when \gran continue to show stellar performance in 2016 similar to 2015 with growth in both revenue and profitability backed by overall market sentiment improvements the situation will get changed. If so in 2017 GRAN will be a completely different stock. You will remember I said this if market beat the resistance @ 7000 this year and move towards all time high in 2017 with improved GRAN performance.

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SupunD · **624** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Wed May 18, 2016 11:36 am

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Over 1.1 Billion cash in hand and debt free. Nearly 25% of the market capitalization.

chamil1 · **625** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Thu May 19, 2016 12:05 am

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There is approx 3.9 million foreign selling remaining. Higher than I initially thought.

But it wouldn't stay like this forever

EquityChamp · **626** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Thu May 19, 2016 12:18 am

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What do you think on my prediction. In one of my previous posts I said at least 4mn to be sold. Also I said due to this factor the TAFL will be 70% higher than GRAN in some point of time. What do you think about my statement.

chamil1 · **627** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Thu May 19, 2016 12:26 am

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EquityChamp wrote:What do you think on my prediction. In one of my previous posts I said at least 4mn to be sold. Also I said due to this factor the TAFL will be 70% higher than GRAN in some point of time. What do you think about my statement.

Very Good EC. Let's see how GRAN could be resurrected

Brinthan · **628** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Mon May 23, 2016 10:19 pm

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EC Sir most of the members told this is the right time to exit polutry stocks like BFL,TAFL & GRAN...

AS YOU KNOW IN MY PREVIOUS POST I HAVE FAIR VALUE OF GRAN WITH AVG COST OF 81.5 ...

WHAT IS YOUR OPINION IN THE CURRENT MARKET CONDITION ???

EquityChamp · **629** Re: CEYLON GRAIN ELEVATORS PLC (GRAN.N0000) Tue May 24, 2016 5:26 am

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Brinthan wrote:EC Sir most of the members told this is the right time to exit polutry stocks like BFL,TAFL & GRAN...

AS YOU KNOW IN MY PREVIOUS POST I HAVE FAIR VALUE OF GRAN WITH AVG COST OF 81.5 ...

WHAT IS YOUR OPINION IN THE CURRENT MARKET CONDITION ???

My view is whoever saying that TAFL & GRAN is to be sold now is saying because they haven't moved to very high price compared to their expectation in short term. But if you look at their financials and the growth they have registered during last several quarters real investors won't sell at these levels. This is a stock with lot of intrinsic value. If you look at technical charts, daily charts indicating sell but weekly chart indicating neutral and monthly charts indicate buy. RSI's are @ 40s. The stagnation is due to willingness of the top shareholder to exit and still no institutional player look at this stock. But I strongly believe that its a matter of time that all these can turn upside down.
I am not deny the possibility than GRAN can come down to 70/75 level but which is a very good price for me to collect more.
Remember ASPI is projected to reach 7000 by September/October and with this undervalued stocks like GRAN & TAFL should reach their true values.

Thanks

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