JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000)

Dharshi · **251** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Sun May 31, 2020 1:28 pm

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Kipling wrote:Teller seems to operate multiple accounts.
Strawberry Shortcake is Hmmmm

At least Teller Ayya doing some classes in Youtube to teach people about shares trading. But what you are doing...? Don't try to mislead people by giving them false hopes about market and make them loose their hard earned money. Also learn how to talk and behave yourself with your female colleague... Crying or Very sad

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Kipling · **252** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Sun May 31, 2020 1:42 pm

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A proxy for Teller..That is all I had in mind.

Soilconomy · **253** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Sun May 31, 2020 9:49 pm

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Dharshi wrote:

Kipling wrote:Teller seems to operate multiple accounts.
Strawberry Shortcake is Hmmmm

At least Teller Ayya doing some classes in Youtube to teach people about shares trading. But what you are doing...? Don't try to mislead people by giving them false hopes about market and make them loose their hard earned money. Also learn how to talk and behave yourself with your female colleague... .

It does not matter if you are a female or male with a female account.what matters is if you tell stupid things and trying to mislead new comers without valid points you are a idiot.mis.whoever.

learn how to invest and trade before acting like a pandith...

Dharshi · **254** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:17 am

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Soilconomy wrote:

Dharshi wrote:

Kipling wrote:Teller seems to operate multiple accounts.
Strawberry Shortcake is Hmmmm

At least Teller Ayya doing some classes in Youtube to teach people about shares trading. But what you are doing...? Don't try to mislead people by giving them false hopes about market and make them loose their hard earned money. Also learn how to talk and behave yourself with your female colleague... .

It does not matter if you are a female or male with a female account.what matters is if you tell stupid things and trying to mislead new comers without valid points you are a idiot.mis.whoever.

learn how to invest and trade before acting like a pandith...

I am not misleading the newcomers. You guys are misleading them by showing them an artificial hype. After the Corona pandemic, every body knows the economy is down and how the other world markets are performing. Also we know the history of CSE. How CSE alone will go hype after hype...??? Don't be so cunning and try to deceive innocent people's money. Already in CSE, the shares prices are selling unrealistically very high. You will see a drastic drop soon reflecting the real economy... Basketball

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xhunter · **255** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:11 am

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@Dharshi,
i am new to this (expect to invest in stock market).
you said that "Already in CSE, the shares prices are selling unrealistically very high".
How do we know this, is it based on AVPS and EPS and future potential(sonthing can not be mathematically model).
or please explain me the reason/values/proofs for 90/= is the right value for JKH and why should long term investors should start to collect JKH when it reachs lower than 90/=.

this is my first post and i am trying to grab technical knowledge (which can not be garbed reading a tutorial or watching a you tube video).

Thanks in advance.

THUWA · **256** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:53 am

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xhunter wrote:@Dharshi,
i am new to this (expect to invest in stock market).
you said that "Already in CSE, the shares prices are selling unrealistically very high".
How do we know this, is it based on AVPS and EPS and future potential(sonthing can not be mathematically model).
or please explain me the reason/values/proofs for 90/= is the right value for JKH and why should long term investors should start to collect JKH when it reachs lower than 90/=.

this is my first post and i am trying to grab technical knowledge (which can not be garbed reading a tutorial or watching a you tube video).

Thanks in advance.

Xhunter is non other than Soilconomy with recently opened fake user name, those without backbone are now speaking through fake user ID

xhunter · **257** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:29 am

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THUWA wrote:

xhunter wrote:@Dharshi,
i am new to this (expect to invest in stock market).
you said that "Already in CSE, the shares prices are selling unrealistically very high".
How do we know this, is it based on AVPS and EPS and future potential(sonthing can not be mathematically model).
or please explain me the reason/values/proofs for 90/= is the right value for JKH and why should long term investors should start to collect JKH when it reachs lower than 90/=.

this is my first post and i am trying to grab technical knowledge (which can not be garbed reading a tutorial or watching a you tube video).

Thanks in advance.

Xhunter is non other than Soilconomy with recently opened fake user name, those without backbone are now speaking through fake user ID

Still my question is open and i am seeking for a critical and logical answer. your above statement can not be considered as an answer , at least i can not see any relationship.i believe @Dharshi will clearly answer my question (with facts that everyone can accept in the forum).

xhunter · **258** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:39 am

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some clarification about my handle. "hunter" is my first choice when it comes to online handle,if it is already taken then Xhunter. this is my profile in stackoverflow
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Teller · **259** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:45 pm

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I estimate JKH to come down 80 levels

xhunter · **260** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:51 pm

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Teller wrote:I estimate JKH to come down 80 levels

Opinions are just words without facts. arrange facts rationally and logically to support your opinion. that what forum members are looking for. even God said "I estimated to this" has no value.

MarketWch · **261** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:54 pm

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Teller wrote:I estimate JKH to come down 80 levels

Don't post your stupidity,even a new investors knows JKH is worth more than 160...
Manipulation is your middle name after seeing your comments and videos

Eranga87 · **262** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:16 pm

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Teller wrote:I estimate JKH to come down 80 levels

Teller, JKH NAV Rs.164. your valuation Rs.80. current market price Rs.110. can you please tell me JKH Overvalue or undervalued? pls. mentioned your valuation technique.
no need to show your excel calculations.

Dharshi · **263** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:36 pm

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xhunter wrote:

THUWA wrote:

xhunter wrote:@Dharshi,
i am new to this (expect to invest in stock market).
you said that "Already in CSE, the shares prices are selling unrealistically very high".
How do we know this, is it based on AVPS and EPS and future potential(sonthing can not be mathematically model).
or please explain me the reason/values/proofs for 90/= is the right value for JKH and why should long term investors should start to collect JKH when it reachs lower than 90/=.

this is my first post and i am trying to grab technical knowledge (which can not be garbed reading a tutorial or watching a you tube video).

Thanks in advance.

Xhunter is non other than Soilconomy with recently opened fake user name, those without backbone are now speaking through fake user ID

Still my question is open and i am seeking for a critical and logical answer. your above statement can not be considered as an answer , at least i can not see any relationship.i believe @Dharshi will clearly answer my question (with facts that everyone can accept in the forum).

My answer is very simple. @Xhunter - Don't think CSE like your interested programming languages which have proper reasoning behind every constructs or code segments. In CSE lot of front/back elements control price movements, which normally can't be logically reasoned using financial knowledge. The history tells all about CSE.... Smile

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So my JKH estimation of price is 90.00.

The reasoning behind this is,

Price of share = V1+ x*y+ z
V1=40, x=5, y=4, z=100
So estimated price of share comes as 90/=.

Now you understand.... Very Happy

MarketWch · **264** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:52 am

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Dharshi wrote:

xhunter wrote:

THUWA wrote:

xhunter wrote:@Dharshi,
i am new to this (expect to invest in stock market).
you said that "Already in CSE, the shares prices are selling unrealistically very high".
How do we know this, is it based on AVPS and EPS and future potential(sonthing can not be mathematically model).
or please explain me the reason/values/proofs for 90/= is the right value for JKH and why should long term investors should start to collect JKH when it reachs lower than 90/=.

this is my first post and i am trying to grab technical knowledge (which can not be garbed reading a tutorial or watching a you tube video).

Thanks in advance.

Xhunter is non other than Soilconomy with recently opened fake user name, those without backbone are now speaking through fake user ID

Still my question is open and i am seeking for a critical and logical answer. your above statement can not be considered as an answer , at least i can not see any relationship.i believe @Dharshi will clearly answer my question (with facts that everyone can accept in the forum).

My answer is very simple. @Xhunter - Don't think CSE like your interested programming languages which have proper reasoning behind every constructs or code segments. In CSE lot of front/back elements control price movements, which normally can't be logically reasoned using financial knowledge. The history tells all about CSE.....

So my JKH estimation of price is 90.00.

The reasoning behind this is,

Price of share = V1+ x*y+ z
V1=40, x=5, y=4, z=100
So estimated price of share comes as 90/=.

Now you understand....

Teller · **265** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:45 am

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Hi guys, This time i dont do any calculation but i have estimates. Personally i know they hit a lot due to pandemic situation . Its not going to clear this situation ,some times it may takes year to recover the industry like tourism. Jkh has a huge exposure on it . Its a better to close hotels than run it with less occupancy. Running a hotel has a huge fixed cost not like other industry . In my point of view and estimates put jkh further pressure. Wait and see. How ever i believe my way .you can have yours . (Disclosure -Holding) Good luck

xhunter · **266** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:07 am

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Dharshi wrote:

xhunter wrote:

THUWA wrote:

xhunter wrote:@Dharshi,
i am new to this (expect to invest in stock market).
you said that "Already in CSE, the shares prices are selling unrealistically very high".
How do we know this, is it based on AVPS and EPS and future potential(sonthing can not be mathematically model).
or please explain me the reason/values/proofs for 90/= is the right value for JKH and why should long term investors should start to collect JKH when it reachs lower than 90/=.

this is my first post and i am trying to grab technical knowledge (which can not be garbed reading a tutorial or watching a you tube video).

Thanks in advance.

Xhunter is non other than Soilconomy with recently opened fake user name, those without backbone are now speaking through fake user ID

Still my question is open and i am seeking for a critical and logical answer. your above statement can not be considered as an answer , at least i can not see any relationship.i believe @Dharshi will clearly answer my question (with facts that everyone can accept in the forum).

My answer is very simple. @Xhunter - Don't think CSE like your interested programming languages which have proper reasoning behind every constructs or code segments. In CSE lot of front/back elements control price movements, which normally can't be logically reasoned using financial knowledge. The history tells all about CSE.....

So my JKH estimation of price is 90.00.

The reasoning behind this is,

Price of share = V1+ x*y+ z
V1=40, x=5, y=4, z=100
So estimated price of share comes as 90/=.

Now you understand....

first of all , you have used the incorrect term "estimation". estimation should have a base. the right term is "price you wish". financial knowledge is not rocket science. "In CSE lot of front/back elements control price movement", so you think inverters are idiots they dont know this and only you and teller know this so people who collect JKH at 110/= are totally idiots. and you think CSE history is something covered and others can not uncover it only @Dharshi can do it.
I can understand you financial knowledge based on the exceptional mathematical knowledge you have.
V1+ x*y + z = 40 + (5x4)+100 = 160
So where this 90/= came from?

This time i dont expect an answer. Very Happy

Kipling · **267** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:13 am

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Teller & Gang follow valuation methodology developed by Zaharan under ISIS auspices. They want Wahabi Sharia state. No chance in the Land of Pure Theravada Buddhism. Teller Should focus on the stink holes of the Gulf.

MarketWch · **268** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:10 am

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Kipling wrote:Teller & Gang follow valuation methodology developed by Zaharan under ISIS auspices. They want Wahabi Sharia state. No chance in the Land of Pure Theravada Buddhism. Teller Should focus on the stink holes of the Gulf.

When our new president wins the election these pandiths will regret telling bu$& s$&t
Jkh will be the next big win hotel stake is just 15% so not that impact for overall company and they might sell some non performance hotel properties ,if this happens jkh will be above 245 and jkh was 350 before...some in this forum(so called tale tellers) will try to mislead others but best thing is to do your own research.jkh hotel property around country also valued at he'll of a lot $$$
With the matale airport starts everything will be booming.if someone wait till that time to buy that would be nuts...
Covid is not a issue for Sri Lanka because we now have a president who is very strong and wise,past all president are not like him.GR loves his country and what he tells he does...
I am seeing bright future for Sri Lanka.by the way I'm not in any political party but as a Sri Lankan I respect what the current president is doing.jaya wewa..
Never get advice from pandiths in this forum.belive the swot analysis of jkh...

xhunter · **269** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:36 am

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Teller wrote:Hi guys, This time i dont do any calculation but i have estimates. Personally i know they hit a lot due to pandemic situation . Its not going to clear this situation ,some times it may takes year to recover the industry like tourism. Jkh has a huge exposure on it . Its a better to close hotels than run it with less occupancy. Running a hotel has a huge fixed cost not like other industry . In my point of view and estimates put jkh further pressure. Wait and see. How ever i believe my way .you can have yours . (Disclosure -Holding) Good luck

So you believe when tourism hit by covid-19 badly, then somehow you “personally” know that but others don’t know that. And JKH directors just stand and see what is going on.
Did you try to find out what their business strategy/risk mitigation plan is?
Did you study whether it is something realistic?
If all hotels they have runs with no occupancy, as percentage what is impact to the revenue as a percentage (roughly)?
Do you know how hotel operations are managed throughout the seasons when occupancy vary from 80% to 5% from season to season?
Do you know how hotels cost structure composites.

Teller · **270** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:39 am

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I have estimated the drop of revenue and fixed expenses Vs cash flow impact. It will be a 58% hit for them . Definitely its worthy for me 2 digits share price . Lets see how the impact reports.
1. Transportation
The initial impact on the Colombo port was from the lockdown in China and subsequently
from India, given the higher reliance on transshipment volumes. The degree of impact to
overall port operations will largely depend on how regional trade will evolve post recovery.
However, the recovery of trade in China has been encouraging where we are seeing a pick-
up in Chinese vessel movement, although volumes in Colombo will also depend on trade in
India and the South Asian region.
The reduction in global trade activity and vessel movements is expected to impact the
Bunkering business in the short term. The near term risk to the business is the possible
negative impact on oil prices despite prices falling drastically over the last one and a half
months and the extreme volatility of prices. The business will carefully assess the outlook
for oil prices when placing new orders given the lead time of 2-3 weeks for delivery of cargo.
2. Leisure
Given that there are no tourists arrivals to both Sri Lanka and the Maldives, operations of
the City Hotels and the Resorts have been suspended, thereby saving on certain fixed
overheads and other expenses. Depending on Government directives to ease restrictions,
the hotels can re-commence operations within a week although business is not expected to
pick up sharply in the short term due to stringent social distancing guidelines which are
likely to be in place.Given the high degree of correlation between global economic and tourism recovery with
the performance of the industry, and given the dependency on multiple source markets, the
Group expects the Leisure industry group to be significantly impacted in the short to
medium term. The Sri Lanka Tourism Development Authority has initiated a post COVID-
19 action plan to revive the tourism sector.
3. Consumer Foods
Volumes across the beverage, frozen confectionery and convenience foods markets has
declined sharply due to the imposition of curfew and restrictions in movement.
Manufacturing activities have commenced gradually with priority being the health and
safety measures of staff and the manufacturing facilities. The Group expects volumes to
improve with the lifting of the curfew, while the outlook beyond that will depend on the
impact on the overall economy and resultant impacts on consumer spend.
4. Retail
Supermarket services are classified as an essential service by the Government. However,
operations have been largely limited to delivery only, although outlets open when curfew
restrictions are eased. Revenue is negatively impacted in the immediate term as most of
our outlets are located in high-risk districts and remain closed to the public although this
is expected to change from the 4th of May 2020 given the current announcement by the
Government. While outlets will be opened once restrictions are eased, we expect to
continuously ramp up our capability in serving our customers through online delivery
platforms. Outlets which are open to customers will adhere to the new safety guideline
issued by government and health authorities.
5. Property
The impact to the Property industry group earnings is relatively less in the short to medium
term as revenue recognition was mainly from the Tri-Zen residential development project,
which is still at early stages of construction. The construction sites of both Tri-Zen and
Cinnamon Life remain closed as at date since the imposition of curfew.
Cinnamon Life witnessed delays in shipments since February mainly due to the shutdown
of factories in China. However, we now note a gradual recovery in the arrival of materials
with China opening up. The business is working closely with the contractor to understand
the impact on the overall project to manage resources and deliverables. The Group expects
sales momentum to be impacted by subdued consumer sentiment and discretionary
spending. The funding of Cinnamon Life is in place with the unutilized component of the
committed syndicated loan facility and availability of funds earmarked for the project at the
parent company level.
6. Financial Services
Both the banking and insurance sectors are classified as essential services. A key focus of
the Banking sector will be to manage liquidity, particularly given the debt moratorium
announced by the Central Bank, where businesses can apply for eligibility before 30th April
2020.
The Insurance business has also witnessed a disruption to underwriting of new business
and collections. The Insurance regulator announced an extension for payment of renewal
premiums which has impacted collections in the short term. It is expected that business
volumes will improve with the lifting of the curfew, while there will be a renewed focus on
the transformation to digital platforms and other online methods of carrying out the
business, particularly with regard to improving renewals and pursuing new policies.

xhunter · **271** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:16 pm

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@Teller
Why did copy and paste a text from report that everyone (at least investors who are interested on JKH) went through and then mentioned a numeric figure 58%. @Teller we dont need "Fortune Teller".
what is the relationship, how dod you build that?
If you think other investors are kids and they dont know how to read report ([url=https://cdn.cse.lk/cmt/announcement_portal_prod/COVID19 impact disclosure_CSE announcement_April 2020 Final (1)_1878290257443043.pdf]https://cdn.cse.lk/cmt/announcement_portal_prod/COVID19%20impact%20disclosure_CSE%20announcement_April%202020%20Final%20(1)_1878290257443043.pdf[/url]) , you are wrong. my point is again we dont need Fortune Tellers. let market speak. unless you have a base, never mention a value that you saw in dreams or values you saw on a KM post when you drive. I know i am wasting time here. I REST MY CASE.

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Teller · **272** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:38 pm

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Im not crazy to type all these things with out copy and paste . Based on the impact we have to calculate the drop . Its not like other businesses , JKH needs time to recover . Its upto people to buy hold or sell because thats their money . I never love any stock but do so very rarely . Definitely jkh has to reduce their dividends so experienced investors know the impact . Even postive time , JKH traded above the industry average so i dont have any expectation in near future. Obviously long term gradually they will recover . Except fundementals , the only way to gain the share price is possible through institutional investors or FDI s. Both are not realastic at the moment . For me no need to waste of my time to reply on this post. Good luck

wallstreetguy · **273** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:50 pm

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There are a lot of vultures in this group and especially this thread. It's fun to watch as well.

However, most of here will disagree and I'm not siding with anyone, but JKH will come down drastically to double-digit levels. It's a no brainer. Fundamentally it will prove.

I just hope that poor retailers don't end up burning their fingers and stay from the market and I hope there are some ethics in this forum as well. Respect each other's opinions and have a healthy fight! Very Happy

I have been in this forum for a long time. I 've seen people buy shares through recommendations from this forum and have burnt. Please avoid doing that. But keep the fight going. Very Happy

These guys have clearly broken down into simple ways explaining by John Keells is a company in which everyone should stay away.

You should see their stories on Instagram. Then you would definitely stay away.

www.instagram.com/fundalyse

check their stories out then decide whether you really should get into JKH

Teller · **274** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:27 pm

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Ada poya. Apita banak bhawanawak kara ganna den neny.

MarketWch · **275** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:33 pm

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Ko me pandithayan who told jkh will come to 90
See how they trick new comers...Manipulative bastards

NOW JKH 118 lol!

This will pass the 155 level in no time...

Sanju121 · **276** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:48 pm

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MarketWch wrote:Ko me pandithayan who told jkh will come to 90
See how they trick new comers...Manipulative bastards

NOW JKH 118
This will pass the 155 level in no time...

Well said MarketWch

Yahapalanaya · **277** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:34 am

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thestock123 wrote:@sanju .
Mama dananwa umba kauda kiyala .minissunta boru karanna broker kenek .modayo danne nethiwa owa danna epa tikak balalla dapan. Owa okkoma foreign selling .lanakwe in ganne .aye foreigners loku kalekata enne nehe.
Plumb modayek bawa penawa comment walin personnel ganan deyak nehe. Booruwek wenna epa

Exactly..... Smile

Teller · **278** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:10 pm

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if any type of valuation , we can not set Jkh price for 3 digit.thats the reality.

nuwanmja · **279** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:59 pm

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anyone know percentage of JKH exposure to tourism and their apartment bossiness comparing to their total revenue?

Antonym · **280** Re: JOHN KEELLS HOLDINGS PLC (JKH.N0000) Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:52 pm

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nuwanmja wrote:anyone know percentage of JKH exposure to tourism and their apartment bossiness comparing to their total revenue?

The Revenue breakdown across industry groups during 2019/20, inclusive of share of associate revenue, was as follows (in Rs million):

Transportation: 33,439
Consumer Foods: 17,004
Retail: 65,849
Leisure: 17,754
Property: 1,395
Financial Services: 19,675
Other, incl. Information Technology and Plantation Services: 3,803
JKH GROUP TOTAL: 158,920

(Source: JKH Annual Report 2019/20)

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