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276PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:28 am

Win Win


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Bish2020 wrote:Why it's going down today?
I think most of one tended to others with a speculation purpose

277PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:37 am

Eranga87


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

someone big quantity keep on the selling side and try to collect a lower level.

278PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:48 am

Mr. X


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Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

wait till 12.30

279PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:51 am

Eranga87


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

within 1 month, it will trade beyond Rs.15 level

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280PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:13 pm

praveen11


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Stock Analytic

Eranga87 wrote:within 1 month, it will trade beyond Rs.15 level

Piramal Glass business sale is confirmed and very soon a new buyer will be announced. How would this announcement affect GLAS shares? If the buyer decides to de-list, how much will be paid to the shareholder? Can you please advise.

281PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:53 pm

Mithooshan


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics

Eranga87 wrote:
suku502 wrote:
Eranga87 wrote:@Mithooshan,

this research team's inability tell exactly target price of any shares.  they times to times change thier target price (TP) within short period. example. TOKYO, GLAS,DIPD,HAYC,EXPO, ALUM,MGT, etc. so many shares have like this. i think you know this very well.

they cant tell anythings and didnt do any reserch, until publish compnies financial. after the price went up , they realesed reserch report.  they unable to analyze impact of policy changes and market development etc. before, share price wentup , reserch paper not publised. after price goes up reserch paper publised and several times target price. i dont trust such of reserch team outcome.  when we get 5 reserch firm, they tell 5 different things for same thing.
i also agree with u , there is a such a scenario.i think some of shares mentioned above have over valued now.

yes @suku502,

i explained to that research team some earlier anaysis.

Since i made a good profit and purchased before i exited the share. I will buy back once the share price starts moving due to the announcement or where there is a trend forming. There was selling pressure today from ones who have made big profits and i think it will settle a bit before and consolidate.

Good times ahead for Glass from what i learnt and studied. I make my decisions based on market movement and patterns i observe in the market now. Just because i exited it does not mean it is a bad share, but wanted to disclose because i considered it is unfair if not.

@Eranga87 - I completely agree with your remark about the research team reports 😂 (That is exactly why i attached both June and October reports)

*not a buy or sell recommendation

282PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:05 pm

Eranga87


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Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

praveen11 wrote:
Eranga87 wrote:within 1 month, it will trade beyond Rs.15 level

Piramal Glass business sale is confirmed and very soon a new buyer will be announced. How would this announcement affect GLAS shares? If the buyer decides to de-list, how much will be paid to the shareholder? Can you please advise.

@praveen11,


please see the earlier post of @MasterD. I think the new buyer does not delist GLASS.
Recently, JINS delist dunamis capital (CSEC), They paid Rs. 50 or some amount. it is like 2.5 of NAV.

someone told me, a famous local businessman, willing to buy the majority of shares in GLAS. it is not sure. I don't know that deal.
anyway, .. it will trade beyond Rs.15.

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283PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:18 pm

praveen11


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic

Thanks Eranga. I also strongly believe that GLAS will trade above 15/-
Fundamentals are strong;
*big capex expense in 2019 has started to general good revenue.
*New buyers onboarding
*Growth in Pharma (Covid vaccine etc.) and food sector in GLAS.
*Profits will further increase in Dec quarter

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284PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:24 pm

stockback


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around 87 Millions stocks traded above 8 level.

tomorrow I will expect another 20 millions trade above 8 level.

EXPO started today. that is effect to GLAS. bcz GLAS is second highest trades

285PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:51 pm

Eranga87


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

praveen11 wrote:Thanks Eranga. I also strongly believe that GLAS will trade above 15/-
Fundamentals are strong;
*big capex expense in 2019 has started to general good revenue.
*New buyers onboarding
*Growth in Pharma (Covid vaccine etc.) and food sector in GLAS.
*Profits will further increase in Dec quarter

agreed, @praveen11,

next 3rd qtr results beyond 2nd qtr report. intelligent knows, next 3rd qtr net profit easily earn over 450Mn.  Can see, GLAS amazing price movement within short period.
company contiously paid good dividend also. this FY, Can expect more dividend income.

286PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:00 pm

engineer


Manager - Equity Analytics
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Well, in terms of technical analysis what I feel is this will gradually settle around 6.8  - 7.2 until the anticipated"good news" many are talking about because many retailers should have a good profit now and must be trying to move to another counter Smile

287PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:32 pm

Eranga87


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

positive market sentiment Latest news on the way..

288PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:00 pm

praveen11


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic

Hi Eranga, will there be a de-listing? How would the new buyer announcement would attract the share price?

289PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:36 pm

Eranga87


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

praveen11 wrote:Hi Eranga, will there be a de-listing? How would the new buyer announcement would attract the share price?

this movement, not clear delisting process. new buyer announces before the end of this month. please refer above @MasterD calculation. he explained how to affect ownership changes to share price .


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-15/blackstone-partners-group-said-in-race-to-buy-piramal-glass

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290PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:41 pm

Eranga87


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

Master D wrote:Valuation Analysis of the deal  ( This is My own work -  pls comment if you have feedback)

Piramal GLASS is to be sold at 900MN to 1Billion USD. Lets consider the worst case. 900 Million.

Two ways to value the SL operation
 1.  Production capacity based allocation on the deal price
 2.  Turnover based valuation (  figures available in financial reports of Piramal group India) 

1. Production capacity based allocation

 Piramal has four plants and to decoration centers. can process 1475 tons a day as a group.
SL operation has 300 tons per day capacity.  Thats 20% of total capacity ( assumed all factories utilized at the percentage capacity allocation).

Sale value = 900 Million USD
20% sale value =  180 million USD =  32.4 billion LKR

No of Shares of GLAS=  1 billion

Thats leads up to a value of 32.4 per share as per this deal. (  best case valuation )


2.  Turnover based valuation

2020/19 turnover for the GLASS operation of Piramal =  357 Million USD (  source: 
https://www.piramalglass.com/piramal-glass-announces-inr-300-crores-us42-million-investment-towards-expansion-of-its-jambusar-plant-in-gujarat-india/ )

Valuation of the deal =  900 Million USD
Valuation ratio =  900/357 =  2.5 times turnover

GLAS N.000 turnover for 19/20 year =  7 billion LKR
valuation as per above ratio = 7*2.5=  17.5 Billion LKR

Price per share =  17.5 Billion LKR /  1 billion shares =  17.5 LKR per share


This valuation goes to 17.5 LKR per share.  (  which is the worst case valuation)




Broker firms now recommends this will be 16+ bcz of the deal. 
Please let me know your thoughts

@praveen11, see.

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291PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:27 pm

praveen11


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic

Many thanks @era

292PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:29 pm

praveen11


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic

Many thanks @eranga. I want to clarify some points on the basis valuation is done. Can you please msg me. Appreciate it

293PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:29 pm

invest thinker

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thankful for GLAS lovers. i also picked at lower level. i able to hold until end of journey. no idea other most benefited counters. some counter still surprised me drunken . please notify others, any special news related to GLAS. my broker firm yesterday said, GLAS price maintained next 2 days due to profit booking sellers , and soon as goes up Rs.14 level.  cheers

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294PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:36 pm

geesura

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invest thinker wrote:thankful for GLAS lovers. i also picked at lower level. i able to hold until end of journey. no idea other most benefited counters. some counter still surprised me drunken . please notify others, any special news related to GLAS. my broker firm yesterday said, GLAS price maintained next 2 days due to profit booking sellers , and soon as goes up Rs.14 level.  cheers
I think we all got suprised by that one share.btw i also collected glas at lower levels n got a good return unlike other penny stocks this had a good reason to fly .luckily I entered the penny stock rallie at the start

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295PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:52 pm

invest thinker

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geesura
invest thinker wrote:thankful for GLAS lovers. i also picked at lower level. i able to hold until end of journey. no idea other most benefited counters. some counter still surprised me drunken . please notify others, any special news related to GLAS. my broker firm yesterday said, GLAS price maintained next 2 days due to profit booking sellers , and soon as goes up Rs.14 level.  cheers
I think we all got suprised by that one share.btw i also collected glas at lower levels n got a good return unlike other penny stocks this had a good reason to fly .luckily I entered the penny stock rallie at the start 



@geesura, yes bro..
other most of stocks went as a rocket without reasons. now comeback without reasons Laughing Laughing.

GLAS path vey clear.. it may be next expo.. solid financial, new market and product developments and new ownership comfort to further movement.  my broker told, hold until few weeks, it could be go far.

thankful for @Eranga87,  MasterD, and JAY-JAY  early highlighted share.

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296PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:17 pm

geesura

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invest thinker wrote:geesura
invest thinker wrote:thankful for GLAS lovers. i also picked at lower level. i able to hold until end of journey. no idea other most benefited counters. some counter still surprised me drunken . please notify others, any special news related to GLAS. my broker firm yesterday said, GLAS price maintained next 2 days due to profit booking sellers , and soon as goes up Rs.14 level.  cheers
I think we all got suprised by that one share.btw i also collected glas at lower levels n got a good return unlike other penny stocks this had a good reason to fly .luckily I entered the penny stock rallie at the start 



@geesura, yes bro..
other most of stocks went as a rocket without reasons. now comeback without reasons Laughing Laughing.

GLAS path vey clear.. it may be next expo.. solid financial, new market and product developments and new ownership comfort to further movement.  my broker told, hold until few weeks, it could be go far.

thankful for @Eranga87,  MasterD, and JAY-JAY  early highlighted share.
Yeah im also thankful to those mentioned gentlemen for highlighting the GLAS share.but be careful brokers are marketers we buy or sell they will be benefited😂

297PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:01 am

Master D


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics

I am holding my entire amount. 
GLASS can drop down till 7.20/- for next few days and will shoot up to 16 when deal is announced.
Its a calculated risk I take not a guess. 
Even if I lose the profit i could have made if I sold at 8.8 I would not have enjoyed this ride. 

Cheers.
Hold on to GLASS, It will not disappoint you even in the long term. 50+ cents dividend is guaranteed.

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298PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:50 am

samaritan


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Master Ji Sir, wish to bring this to your notice.,

Glass may cut your hand!

https://economynext.com/sri-lankas-piramal-glass-parents-sale-narrows-to-two-bidders-report-73970/

Quote from article:
"The two investment firms and Piramal had declined comment and there is a possibility that the sale may not go through, the report said."

299PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:08 am

pra4u

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samaritan wrote:Master Ji Sir, wish to bring this to your notice.,

Glass may cut your hand!

https://economynext.com/sri-lankas-piramal-glass-parents-sale-narrows-to-two-bidders-report-73970/

Quote from article:
"The two investment firms and Piramal had declined comment and there is a possibility that the sale may not go through, the report said."

published Wednesday September 16, 2020 16:44


old news


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300PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:00 am

Eranga87


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Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-15/blackstone-partners-group-said-in-race-to-buy-piramal-glass

301PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Empty Re: PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:17 am

samaritan


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Eranga87 wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-15/blackstone-partners-group-said-in-race-to-buy-piramal-glass
This too is old news published on 15th Sept'2020.PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Icon_lol

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Eranga87


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samaritan wrote:
Eranga87 wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-15/blackstone-partners-group-said-in-race-to-buy-piramal-glass
This too is old news published on 15th Sept'2020.PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Icon_lol

yes.. old one month, please read carfully read content what they said. Smile
sri lankan news article was not fully disclosed everythings unless they collect information from bloomberg.

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Eranga87 wrote:
samaritan wrote:
Eranga87 wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-15/blackstone-partners-group-said-in-race-to-buy-piramal-glass
This too is old news published on 15th Sept'2020.PIRAMAL GLASS CEYLON PLC (GLAS.N0000) - Page 12 Icon_lol

yes.. old one month, please read carfully read content what they said. :)
sri lankan news article was not fully disclosed everythings unless they collect information from bloomberg.
You may probably be right.

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my broker said people sold GLAS past 2 days. they again try to collect. he told me, don't sell and hold for next few announcements. not one.. few. i agreed with you @MasterD

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As I see, in Sri Lanka ,  price of a share is increased due to two reasons.
1. Interested party/ies who have accumulated a big portion at a lower(or higher) price take it up to shed the burden and make a profit/reduce the loss.
2. Due to good fundamentals.

An investor without a capacity to do the 1) above often stand to gain if he follow the 2) I.e. fundamentals
Glass should be viewed in this respect.
It has some of the best fundamentals:
1.Glass being the only producer is a monopoly in Sri Lanka (None of the other companies promoted are monopolies:(Dipped has a monopoly in certain products) - no competitors 

2.Raw material is found in and sourced  from Sri Lanka.
3. Benefits from govt. policy on banning glass imports and encouraging domestic industries with assistance.
4. Market capitalization is very low ( many weaker companies are having a higher market capitalization) Therefore, much room for share price appreciation
5.expanding  Export market 
6. Profitability hence good return to share holders by way of expected higher dividends 
7. Not supplying to a volatile and riskier markets like Agri products/perishables

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